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Did the war in Iraq increase my chance of getting zotted into next week?

Posted on 06/20/2009 7:55:56 PM PDT by lostnconfused99

i'm not very political, and i need to write a paper on the topic "Did the war in Iraq reduce the threat of Terrorism?" My teacher has made it a yes or no paper. i have to write about how it did reduce the threat of terrorism, the yes part.... so can anyone give me some info, in put


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1 posted on 06/20/2009 7:55:56 PM PDT by lostnconfused99
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To: lostnconfused99

Welcome to Free Republic somehow I doubt it


2 posted on 06/20/2009 7:57:24 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: lostnconfused99

Iraq was just one — successful — campaign in the global war on terror.


3 posted on 06/20/2009 7:57:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

I would say the events in Iran is another successful outcome on the WOT.


4 posted on 06/20/2009 7:59:08 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: BenLurkin

It would be nice if this Iran things started a trend throughout the Middle East esoecially in those countries that are still ruled by tyrants and despotic terrorist regimes.

Maybe these leaders are starting to quake in their boots a bit at the possible thought of such a thing happening in places like Lebanon, Yemen, Syria etc.


5 posted on 06/20/2009 7:59:36 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: lostnconfused99

Welcome to FR.

I think it did until now.

We can see many things stirring up
because they know they have a wuss
that won’t fight back for fear of offending someone. IMO


6 posted on 06/20/2009 7:59:40 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: lostnconfused99

Did it reduce the threat of terrorism? Aboslutely!

Have terrorists attacked the homeland since President Bush and Vice President Cheney implemented their policies and strategies? No.

We haven’t been attacked in 7+ years. The Bush Doctrine is a significant factor in that equation.


7 posted on 06/20/2009 7:59:40 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: lostnconfused99

Well, we had a war in Iraq, and until Obama was our president there were no further terrorist attacks on our land.


8 posted on 06/20/2009 7:59:46 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: BenLurkin

It would be nice if this Iran things started a trend throughout the Middle East esoecially in those countries that are still ruled by tyrants and despotic terrorist regimes.

Maybe these leaders are starting to quake in their boots a bit at the possible thought of such a thing happening in places like Lebanon, Yemen, Syria etc.


9 posted on 06/20/2009 7:59:46 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: lostnconfused99

Is this paper due Monday?


10 posted on 06/20/2009 8:00:12 PM PDT by classified
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To: lostnconfused99

In otherwords, you would like us to write your paper for you instead of you going to a library, looking on-line, and using just general paper writing techniques?


11 posted on 06/20/2009 8:00:52 PM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican; classified

Give him/her a break. Interviewing conservatives for opinions is a valid research technique.


12 posted on 06/20/2009 8:02:51 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican

Look at the sign up date and the fact he has not responded back trollI bet


13 posted on 06/20/2009 8:03:05 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: lostnconfused99

Judging by your writing style, I think Megan Fox would be a better subject.


14 posted on 06/20/2009 8:03:13 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (I don't suck the Hollyweird teat.)
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To: Dallas59
Don't get me wrong......there have been other successes too.

They just haven't been as well publicized as our victory in Iraq.

15 posted on 06/20/2009 8:03:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: JoJo Gunn

Amazing how Megan Fox can be worked into any thread


16 posted on 06/20/2009 8:05:03 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: lostnconfused99

Have hope...if America can change into a socialist dictatorship ...then Iran can certainly turn into a freedom loving country.


17 posted on 06/20/2009 8:05:33 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: lostnconfused99
Clearly it did. No more Saddam, a supporter/financier of terrorism and Iraq was a safe haven. The effort tied down a good deal of Al Queda resources for a long time. It was pretty safe in the US as there were not a lot of attacks.

The real question is was the Iraq war worth the time, $$ and casualties we have sustained. We won't have the answer to this question for a long time however.

Best of luck!

schu

18 posted on 06/20/2009 8:05:40 PM PDT by schu
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To: al baby

Hey, if you can’t beat ‘em...


19 posted on 06/20/2009 8:07:18 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (I don't suck the Hollyweird teat.)
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To: lostnconfused99
Maybe with all the unrest in Iran...the Iranian gov. won't have time to train and send out Islamic insurgents freedom fighters out into the world...
20 posted on 06/20/2009 8:08:50 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: lostnconfused99

Also compare the levels of terrorist activity (car bombings, suicide bombings, etc.) in Iraq before, during, and “after” the war. Iraqis are not living their lives in fear anymore. They’re getting on with the business of freedom and democracy.

Driving a Hummer has recently become a status symbol in Iraq. See this article: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2222604/posts


21 posted on 06/20/2009 8:09:07 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: lostnconfused99

Yes, because it sent a clear signal that the US was not stopping with goatherd opium growers in Afghanistan. It is why Libya gave up its nuclear bomb development program.

The US has not been attacked in a coordinated fashion since 9/11, and the Invasion of Iraq was a big part of that reason. As Donald Rumsfeld, Defense Secretary and Great Man, said — we drew them (being those of a terrorist mindset) into Iraq where we killed as many as we could of them. Killed them there, in Iraq, rather than here.

Saddam Hussein (same last name as Obama’s middle, coincidentally) was the dictator of Iraq. There he encouraged terrorists abroad, for example paying the surviving families of successfully exploding “Palestinian” suicide bombers the equivalent of $25,000. Saddam’s secret police also ran terrorist operations abroad — Khalid Sheik Mohammed is an example of someone they worked closely with.

Some researchers suspect that Iraq secret agents were involved in the OKC terror bombing.

In any case Saddam gave safe haven and operating bases to terrorist groups, until we stopped him.

The War in Iraq was a true hard blow against global terror.


22 posted on 06/20/2009 8:11:07 PM PDT by bvw
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To: darkwing104

Live one!!!


23 posted on 06/20/2009 8:14:30 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: lostnconfused99

When that war started, the idea was to take the war to where the terrorists are, and to keep them away from American soil. It worked for us. The terrorists swarmed Iraq and we fought them there. (It is always good to be able to pick your battle ground.) They were slowly but surely taken down by our brave soldiers. We have not been attacked again. And we have planted democracy in a very dry piece of earth. It will be up to the Iraqis to keep it. Peace is achieved through strength, and so is our national security. I know that sounds like a cliche, but it is a reality that you can observe in daily life as well as on the battlefield.


24 posted on 06/20/2009 8:16:36 PM PDT by La Lydia (.)
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To: lostnconfused99

If you google the subject, stay away from sources Washington Post, New York Times & CBS/ABC/NBC/CNN. These sources are well-known to be biased for the anti-war liberal leftist democrats & obozo admin.


25 posted on 06/20/2009 8:18:23 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: lostnconfused99

Oh well...Good question though....if only for the wrong reasons.


26 posted on 06/20/2009 8:20:22 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: lostnconfused99

Yes. It worked. Saddam was funding terrorists by paying the families of homicide bombers. They have lost that funding from the Hussein regime.


27 posted on 06/20/2009 8:21:32 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: lostnconfused99; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; AliVeritas; Allegra; ...
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28 posted on 06/20/2009 8:22:27 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: lostnconfused99
Gone in 2600 seconds...


29 posted on 06/20/2009 8:23:45 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: La Lydia

The idea of the invasion of Iraq was to split the terrorists on two different fronts, one in Afghanistan and one in Iraq. The strategy worked. It was purely a military strategy, not a political one. The political strategy came after the military strategy and as a result of that strategy.


30 posted on 06/20/2009 8:25:37 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: darkwing104

IATZ


31 posted on 06/20/2009 8:26:22 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Ev Reeman

I am sure you are right.


32 posted on 06/20/2009 8:26:31 PM PDT by La Lydia (.)
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Libya dismantles program....
Yellow cake sent to N America....

Salmon Pak...

Known Al Q leaders killed....

Iraqi elections...

Al Q leaving Iraq....

US kept safe under Bush...

Also look up Transfer of materiel to Syria by Saddam prior to war....

TWA 800
OKC ohn Doe #2 & Padilla

For heaven’s sake, Saddam was found in a hole. His sons beheaded as many as 36 people per day. For a while, I counted them on an Excel spreadsheet; it was gruesome.


33 posted on 06/20/2009 8:26:55 PM PDT by combat_boots (“No heresy, no wickedness, not even the devil himself, can succeed without first counterfeiting goo)
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To: lostnconfused99
ZOT!


34 posted on 06/20/2009 8:28:01 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: lostnconfused99


35 posted on 06/20/2009 8:34:15 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: reagan_fanatic

36 posted on 06/20/2009 8:34:38 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: lostnconfused99

At the onset of the WoT, the US faced an almost insurmountable problem. The enemy were dispersed in a dozen countries, indistinguishable from civilians, and not in violation of local laws. Their best and brightest would gather the resources they needed to travel, get training, and move to their target country, to plan and carry out acts of terrorism.

With the invasion of Afghanistan, we soon learned that the enemy was concentrating in Pakistan, from where they would travel to Afghanistan. And while this created a similar problem to Vietnam, that is, then enemy acting from bases in Laos and Cambodia, but it also presented an opportunity.

Why not intentionally use Iraq, a far more desirable terrorist destination, as a “roach motel”, where the enemy would concentrate to fight our soldiers, instead of fomenting civil war at home, or traveling to western nations to commit terrorist acts against our civilians?

From hither and yon, the finest of al-Qaeda’s recruits came streaming into Iraq, into many situations that could easily be described as “death traps”.

For example, our large but isolated bases were surrounded by kill zones of perhaps five miles depth. Usually, on entry from Syria, the bold new recruits would make a beeline for the first US base they could find, and disappear, never to be heard from again.

This technique was enlarged upon, so that prior to major battles, such as Fallujah, terrorists would stream into the city, thinking it a safe harbor, from which their Caliphate would grow. In turn, much planning insured a similar result, with very high enemy casualties.

Importantly, once al-Qaeda’s best and brightest were eliminated, those that remained had far less chutzpah. That is, they didn’t have enough fortitude to leave their neighborhood and country in search of training, then travel to a foreign nation to commit terrorist acts.

Ironically, by their sheer vicious brutality against Iraqis, al-Qaeda did much to put itself out of business. The Iraqis soon hated the “Arabs”, in this case meaning foreigners, and eventually took up arms against them, unmercifully.

But the end result is that the effectiveness of al-Qaeda was terribly diminished by Iraq, and their considerable losses there did much to neutralize their ongoing threat. And while this reduction continues unabated in Afghanistan and Pakistan, Iraq should be given full and fair credit for its part in the overall War on Terror.


37 posted on 06/20/2009 8:34:41 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: lostnconfused99
It would be hard to argue that point without reviewing Iraq's history of supporting terrorism. Here is a starting point. Iraq's support for terrorism was mentioned in the authorization for use of military force. This article has a couple good quotes from George Bush and Paul Wolfowitz on why they thought the war was necessary.
38 posted on 06/20/2009 8:34:55 PM PDT by retrogo
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To: reagan_fanatic

IATZ!

This Zot seems a little harsh, except for zottee’s lack of comment.


39 posted on 06/20/2009 8:35:08 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Good job.


40 posted on 06/20/2009 8:37:32 PM PDT by bvw
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To: La Lydia

The strategy was almost Pattonesque in its simplicity and brilliance IMHO.


41 posted on 06/20/2009 8:38:16 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

The account has been banned, making more posts difficult, I would imagine.


42 posted on 06/20/2009 8:38:51 PM PDT by bvw
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To: lostnconfused99

U.S. removed nuclear material from Iraq
Wednesday, July 7, 2004
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/07/07/iraq.nuclear/

November 08, 2005
Disinformation: Richard Miniter
Did you know that Weapons of Mass Destruction Have Been Found in IRAQ?
http://qandablog.typepad.com/questions_and_answers/2005/11/disinformation_.html

Saddam And WMD: Russia’s Role
Investor’s Business Daily, 3/7/2006
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1591648/posts

Saddam’s WMD have been found
New evidence unveils chemical, biological, nuclear, ballistic arms
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38213

UN Says: WMDs Smuggled From Iraq; Canadian PM Says in Terrorist Hands {Re-posting}
The Vanguard, 6-24-04
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1159339/posts

Saddam’s Terror Training Camps
weekly standard, 01/16/2006
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1553358/posts


43 posted on 06/20/2009 8:53:27 PM PDT by donna (The best security for old age: respect your children. - Sholem Asch)
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To: lostnconfused99

Clearly yes - it reduced terrorism - if nothing else it got rid of Saddam, who was paying the equivalent of $25,000. to the family of every suicide bomber in the region.....


44 posted on 06/20/2009 8:58:52 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: lostnconfused99
Your premise (or your teacher's premise) is flawed. The purpose of the Iraq War was to uphold the ceasefire agreement from the Gulf War in 1991. It is one of the few times in the last half of the 20th century where America actually did what it said it was going to do. And because of that point alone, respect for America increased throughout the world. Today, President George W. Bush garners more respect amongst the Iranian people than he does in this country.

I would recommend that your teacher actually take the time to read the Authorization for Use of Force in Iraq. Then perhaps he/she could offer an assignment based upon something other than ignorance.

45 posted on 06/20/2009 9:04:58 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: lostnconfused99

I see you are gone but I’ll answer you anyway. Libya gave up its WMD program as a direct reaction to the invasion of Iraq. That is certainly not the only thing but it was one good thing.


46 posted on 06/20/2009 9:12:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Hoodat

Good point.


47 posted on 06/20/2009 9:14:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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48 posted on 06/20/2009 9:25:57 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

He won’t comment now. Increasing the reverb of the echo chamber effect here.


49 posted on 06/20/2009 9:32:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

We have lost several thousand of our troops, a fact that was dangled in front of us daily by the MSM, until it went to a trickle at which point it was buried. Lost in that is that on the conservative side we have killed more than 20,000 jihadis. While true that many of these were Iraqis who viewed themselves as defending their homeland, we have killed or captured at least 9,000 foreign fighters. This is called winning a non conventional war. These foreign fighters did not blow off bombs in Beirut, Tel Aviv or Los Angeles.
When AQ declared jihad against the Soviets in Afghanistan, all these guys showed up suitcase in hand to fight the infidel anywhere. Don’t imagine the same thing isn’t happening now. We took the fight to their backyard. It is playing Monday morning quarterback to think that we would not be hit since 911, without the WOT as prosecuted by Bush. It isn’t a lack of will or capacity on the part of AQ.


50 posted on 06/20/2009 9:37:47 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (They must think we are stupid. They want to be green, I want to be gault.)
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