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Where's the birth certificate (large billboard on Interstate 5 in Los Angeles)
Me ^ | July 19, 2009 | Me

Posted on 07/19/2009 10:08:15 PM PDT by SideoutFred

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To: buck61
I hope all Americans will tune them off !!!!!
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I agree! The talk show hosts have completely blown their credibility. That they have ignored Obama’s eligibility disgusts me!

Geeze! Obama claims that his father was a British subject and Kenyan. That alone means he can't be natural born, with no paper work needed. Yet...Rush is silent on this. Ditto for the rest of them. Our conservative talk show hosts are nothing more than money changers in the Temple.

61 posted on 07/20/2009 5:56:37 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Kevin in California

All we can hope far is that Obama kool-aid drinkers will get tired of paying their own kook-aid tab and demand that Obama pay it for them as he promised. I don’t expect that to happen. The American people aren’t smart enough to figure things out.


62 posted on 07/20/2009 5:56:46 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: wintertime

Rush is silence because the “fairness doctrine” is looming ahead, you think? Or he knows that the American people would burn down the country if the occupant were removed from office. Or maybe even he too would like a nice comment from a liberal occasionally.


63 posted on 07/20/2009 5:58:59 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Polarik

Hey polarik, you have a contingency plan in case suddenly we have a release or rather a timely event of supposedly Obamas real birth certificate that comes out on the web?

What I mean is that if I was Obama I could at this stage have some foreign group with support from Obama starts displaying another type of birth certificate, one that for practical purposes looks very real, has real dated looking paper, seals, texture, you know a document thats just been created by the same people that have been making millions of counterfeit $100 bills that were so good they were almost impossible to detect?

In profiling Obama (I guess I have been watching too much CSI and other FBI shows) it appears that he has enough of a narcissist attitude that he may face down this BC issue by several methods, he may make it a crime to discuss ANYTHING about it backed up by Homeland Security and Executive Privileges.

He may further lunatic right wing extremism by staging some form of negatively viewed attack upon him and to create an MSM spin upon the “Right wing terrorists” trying to remove the most historic president ever elected?

Obama is getting backed into a corner, in the recent case of the Major did anyone think that Obama would make the decision or rather that someone would just simply fire the Major?

I think Obama is going to have a press release soon, he will stand firm that he is an American, he does not have to prove it, America would suffer “extreme chaos” if he was to be further examined. I think thats his next course of actions, he will all but openly say that any further examination would create nationwide panic, death and destruction.

So I think he will get deadly serious soon, he will make it a federal crime to discuss, post or gather followers of any sort about his eligibility especially his lack of proper documentation about him holding office, this guy will not quit, he has tasted the fruits of power and will use it completely. He will go 4th and long, because he controls the umpires, the cameras and the broadcasters.


64 posted on 07/20/2009 6:00:40 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: lovesdogs

In this case, the American people don’t want to know the truth about the occupant’s origins. The information would make these American voters look foolish, and they are proud though ignorant people convinced they are on the right track.


65 posted on 07/20/2009 6:01:33 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

Then Rush is a minnow too. ( MINO: man in name only)


66 posted on 07/20/2009 6:01:50 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime

Rush hurt himself by defending GWB when GWB wouldn’t take five minutes to defend himself about much of anything. Rush is brilliant, but he knows how liberal the American people really are — looking for checks that never come.


67 posted on 07/20/2009 6:03:45 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

One more reason Rush is a minnow, too. ( MINO man in name only)


68 posted on 07/20/2009 6:06:55 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER; AuntB; Salvation; blackie; dixiechick2000; SierraWasp; tubebender

Brings back fond memories of another billboard a long time ago in the Green Socialist Republic of Oregone.


69 posted on 07/20/2009 7:10:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foreign/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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To: STARWISE

“Oh .. how about the backs of
airport restroom stall doors?

Bus benches ?

Buses ?

NASCAR cars ?

Grocery cart basket inserts ?

There are SO many places ...”

Years ago we had some rather large “Dump Gray Davis” sticker just before the successful recall vote.

I put them on our three big trash containers on the three sides not facing the curb. That meant that whatever way someone drove up our street they could read the signs.

The trash cans went out to the curb a day before the pickup and didn’t come back to my driveway until the day after the pickup.

The liberals that lived on our culdesac went ballastic, and one old liberal whiner came close to wrecking her car, she got so mad.

After getting complaints from a couple, I would bring the cans up to and just inside our driveway instead of the house matching shed.

I had one on my OJ Simpson Bronco’s tailgate. When I drove it, other drivers would honk and raise their thumbs in support or give me the old one figure salute. My wife didn’t want to ride with me until we took the Bronco on a weekend errand run. We got nothing but thumbs up and several people asked where they could get a sticker.


70 posted on 07/20/2009 7:24:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foreign/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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To: hoosiermama

I don’t really have any “work.” Are you maybe referring to Tonchen’s Eligibility Primer?


71 posted on 07/20/2009 7:43:57 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: SideoutFred

This is in Dallas ! On I 35...... watch it change every 2 or 3 seconds http://jesusnjim.com/fun/dallasi35sign.html


72 posted on 07/20/2009 8:14:22 AM PDT by diji
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Yes...I thought you had put it together...I at least remembered that it was you who pastes the link to it....and what it was about...Two out of three isn’t bad.


73 posted on 07/20/2009 8:19:07 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: SideoutFred

Used to work in L.A. I know that exact spot!


74 posted on 07/20/2009 8:29:37 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: Grampa Dave

Ah yes... in days of yore...


75 posted on 07/20/2009 8:43:38 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
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To: JoeProBono
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The American Thinker explains here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. There is evidence to suggest that the home named in the newspaper archived article as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by a couple not Obama's parents. Even the Honalulu Advertiser has a different address of record for Obama's father than the one listed newspaper birth listing. The hospital where Obama claims he was born--refuses to either confirm or deny that he was in fact born there--and that despite the fact that Obama has said he was born there in writing--and presented the hospital a memo to that effect...right after he was elected. What's more newspaper accounts of his birth place him in other hospitals around Hawaii. None of these will comment either.

Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this: Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.

of note

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]

301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844

303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511

Obama's Senate efforts to airbrush his past were augmented by his top Intelligence Advisor in March 2008. Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach. Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March [2008] for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July. The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies. During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation. Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information. In this video of Obama's reaction to the break in...he says twice that his reason for being concerned about the matter is not that he is concerned about what the records may reveal about himself...but rather etc. One denial is ok. Two denials in short order is of a piece with the other anomolies in his record.
76 posted on 07/20/2009 8:50:13 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Irishgirl
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”(Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually. Ah here is the cached version.)

Here is the problem with fighthesmears narrative: We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born. British law at the time of obama's birth only gave citizenship from the father to the son in the case that the father is married to the mother:ie the son is legitimate. See wikipedia 2.4.3Since obama's parents were NOT married -- how did obama get his British/Kenyancitizenship? Its not unreasonable to think that he got his British/Kenyan because he was born there--and not because of his parentage. As to the famous newsclipping in Hawaii that states that bama was born there in 1961--there is evidence to suggest that the house named as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by someone else besides his parents. Once again, Just one piece of evidence could easily be dismissed. It is the accumulation of evidence that is troubling.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?

A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. On top of that according to the LA Times since the election -- the Kenyans feel that Obama has gone out of his way to snub/ignore/distance-himself them. The Kenyans are putting up reasons like perhaps they are insufficiently perfected for him to notice them--but here in the USA we have seen Obama throw a number of embarrasing people from his past under the bus. Obama is going to Africa. Will he visit Kenya? Nope. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

The thing has become a joke in washington. Joe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.

After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "

From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.

Les Kinsolving asked the Presidential Press Secretary Gibbs to release the long form birth certificate. The press secretary suggested mockingly that the copy of the short form birth certificate supplied online is Obama's long form birth certificate. (Not so.However, as of July 2009 seven months after the election hawaii changed their rules to make "certifcations of live birth" legal.)There is even evidence to suggest the online "certification of live birth"--ie not a birth certificate--obama presented... was a forgery. See the press conference out take here.

The White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts.

Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates."

Even the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".

A bill in the US congress with five backers currently -- calls for future presidential candidates to be required to show a birth certificate. Ho
77 posted on 07/20/2009 8:51:51 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Faith

ping


78 posted on 07/20/2009 9:03:41 AM PDT by Hiskid (Jesus is Lord.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I remember that one!! >:-}

What ever happened to guy who started it, he just disappeared??


79 posted on 07/20/2009 9:07:41 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Kevmo; Polarik; LucyT

I’m ecstatic that Lou Dobbs is asking questions. Now we’re getting somewhere. And credit where credit is due - he’s asking because of Orly Taitz’s lawsuit. Good job, Taitz! (That’s difficult for me to say because I have some issues with Taitz.

As a side note though, WND has published some claims that are so erroneous as to damage their credibility with me. For example, Joseph Farah made reference to Pakistan (in the text you posted) by mentioning Obama’s foreign travels to countries prohibited to American citizens. Travel to Pakistan was never prohibited to American citizens. I’ve provided the text of the State Department’s travel advisory on various FR threads to demonstrate how utterly false that claim is. It was so easy to travel to Pakistan at that time that Pakistan was issuing 30-day visas to Americans at their airports. I’ve forwarded that to WND, yet they won’t retract that claim. Additionally, they claimed that Congress had passed a bill to protect the executive branch (implying Obama) from being forced to release documents to the media. The bill to which they referred protects journalists from being forced to release confidential source information to executive branch investigators and allows a court to order the release only as a last resort. Because their error was so blatant, they were flooded with calls to correct the story. Instead of issuing a retraction, the story was simply taken down from their website.

There are other examples, but it’d take too long to detail them here. I may write an article about their journalism skills or lack of such.

I’m a firm believer in Polarik’s research on the COLB forgery. So knowing that Obama has already committed forgery and has since tried to scrub the evidence, I believe he’ll do it again. He’s had nearly one year to produce a perfect forgery of his long-form BC. What’s going to happen when he “whips it out?” Will Lou Dobbs consider the issue resolved? Probably so.

That’s why I am concerned about the consequences of WND’s “where’s the birth certificate” campaign. What if Obama produces a perfect forgery? Don’t we all then look like fools? Could Dobbs be setting the stage for Obama’s “big reveal?” And is it intentional or otherwise on his part? (I don’t know.)

That’s also why it’s important for us to fight Obama’s chicanery on multiple fronts, including his British citizenship at birth and his document fraud. If the media doesn’t know or believe that the online COLB was forged, they’ll likely accept any long-form BC he produces and promptly kill NBC the movement. Notice that they’re framing the issue not as a question of whether or not he is a NBC, but rather as an issue of lack of transparency. How does one solve a transparency issue? By releasing the document requested. Game over. Thanks for playing. Buh-bye birther crazies!


80 posted on 07/20/2009 9:09:44 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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