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Vanity, Gun Cleaning (That's right, guns. FReepers come runnin'!)
July 26, 2009 | Owl_Eagle

Posted on 07/26/2009 9:42:02 AM PDT by South Hawthorne

I was beginning to google around for the answer to this question, but then I thought "Who knows more about guns than my fellow FReepers?"

So, I have a Mossberg 500, and I figured today would be as good a day as any to clean it. Now, in the past I've used something called "Butch's Bore Shine" but I ran out last time and haven't remembered to pick any up. It's hotter than blazes outside and the skies could open up at any minute so I don't want to walk down to the gun store. Can I use WD40 instead? I haven't fired it since I last cleaned it, so I'm not real concerned about stuff like copper and carbon build up. I just don't want to do something I'll regret.

Thanks in advance,

Owl_Eagle


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1 posted on 07/26/2009 9:42:02 AM PDT by South Hawthorne
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To: Owl_Eagle

wy are you cleaning it again if it hasn’t been fired?


2 posted on 07/26/2009 9:44:34 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I was cleaning it and it just went off!

3 posted on 07/26/2009 9:44:41 AM PDT by Loud Mime (The Germans weren't Nazis per se - their SOCIALISTS were. Socialists are dangerous people...)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Where’d you have it stored? In mud? :) Seriously, though, if you haven’t fired since the last time you cleaned it, you should be GTG. Just apply a little lube if it’s been a while since the last time you cleaned it.


4 posted on 07/26/2009 9:46:39 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

WD 40 won’t cut the copper or lead in the bore. It is mostly kerosene and the lube is just temporary. It should do a fair job on the powder residue so go for it.


5 posted on 07/26/2009 9:47:23 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Mr. K

I clean my handgun every month, but I don’t keep that zipped up in a case like I do my shotgun.


6 posted on 07/26/2009 9:50:43 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: mountainlion
The local gunsmith here advises not to use WD 40. Claims its gummy. I use Hoppes exclusively.
7 posted on 07/26/2009 9:51:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Owl_Eagle

I’ve always been told, by people who know, not to use WD-40. It won’t kill your gun but it will gum things up after a while. Better to wait a few days, get the proper stuff, and do it then.


8 posted on 07/26/2009 9:58:26 AM PDT by rockprof
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To: Owl_Eagle

I just finished cleaning my Franchi 12ga.
A tad filthy from a few rounds of sporting clays.


9 posted on 07/26/2009 10:00:40 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: mountainlion; Owl_Eagle
FWIW WD-40 does not contain kerosene according to the WD website.

Owl_Eagle, if this is a one-time deal/emergency, I wouldn't worry. But for regular cleaning, I'd stick to the "good stuff."

10 posted on 07/26/2009 10:01:15 AM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Go to a gun shop and buy a can of Eezox. It dries very quickly, but still lubricates and it will protect the gun forever. However, with a shotgun, if it’s been oiled, not used and kept in a case it should be fine for a long time.


11 posted on 07/26/2009 10:01:18 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Well, if it's just a Mossburg and not a Remington sandpaper should work just fine. ; ) /s
12 posted on 07/26/2009 10:04:49 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: wagglebee; Daffynition; mountainlion; Puppage; rockprof; Mr. K; Andonius_99; Loud Mime
Okay, sounds like I'll just put it off ‘till next weekend, certainly not an emergency.

I'd like to thank all you folks who chimed in.

And for all of you’s who didn't: SHAME ON YOU!!! A vanity on guns. This shoulda been run up over 100 responses by now. And if I'd posted this during work hours on a weekday, is surely would've.
Weekend FReepers, a breed apart, and not in a good way.

13 posted on 07/26/2009 10:08:10 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Owl_Eagle
I also have a 500. Be sure to remove the trigger assembly and assorted “stuff” that falls out (can be a pain to put back together the first time). I tried just using Gun Scrubber without tear-down. Dumb. [head slap]
14 posted on 07/26/2009 10:08:42 AM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Owl_Eagle

There’s also Gunzilla. I bought a bottle of it a few months back and was really impressed, it cleaned and lubricated wonderfully WITHOUT the horrible odor.

In a pinch WD-40 would work fine, but it doesn’t really sound like you have anything to worry about.


15 posted on 07/26/2009 10:12:06 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I use Hoppes exclusively.

God I love that smell. To be honest, since I'm a single old guy, I use that in the house instead of potpourri.

/johnny

16 posted on 07/26/2009 10:13:10 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yep,Nothin more therapeutic than getting out the
Gun Cleaning kit.


17 posted on 07/26/2009 10:24:09 AM PDT by right way right (Do not mistake Religion for God.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Silly. We’re all just packing up to go to the range and waiting for the picnic lunch to be readied. Happy shooting! :-D


18 posted on 07/26/2009 10:26:40 AM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I’ve tried Brakleen which works great to disolve all the powder and crud in my shotgun barrels..... Its a brake cleaner.......


19 posted on 07/26/2009 10:28:17 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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Horrible odor ???

There’s nothing better than Hoppe’s #9. The old lady puts a dab behind each ear every night.


20 posted on 07/26/2009 10:30:55 AM PDT by white17x
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To: JRandomFreeper
Hehe! I hold the patent on Hoppes #9 cologne .... little black dress, stilettos and a dab behind each ear ....bring 'em to their knees every time. '_P


21 posted on 07/26/2009 10:31:03 AM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

No, no, no. Unless you don’t value your gun.


22 posted on 07/26/2009 10:34:38 AM PDT by Kirkwood ( O||||||O)
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To: EGPWS

Ouch!


23 posted on 07/26/2009 10:36:49 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: Daffynition
I've taken a vow of celibacy and taken up a life of quiet contemplation. That's the ONLY reason I'm not baying at the moon like a mad dog right now. Hoppes #9 and stiletto heels. Does life get any better?

You go, girl!

/johnny

24 posted on 07/26/2009 10:41:21 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Go buy some Army surplus LSA oil and clean your weapon. One of the bore snakes will take care of the barrell. IMO good old soap and water and then a thorough oiling LSA/gun oil is the best way to clean a weapon of the buildup of gunpowder and bullet residue.
25 posted on 07/26/2009 10:43:24 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Owl_Eagle
 
 
WD-40?! No, no, no. It works well for what it is designed for, which is to penetrate and loosen up rust, helping to work seized up gizmos apart. It is not a cleaner nor a "resident" lubricant or rust protection - it has a carrier that evaporates away, leaving a non-proactive residue behind. I have run into more than one person over the years that have rotted their guns up with that stuff. For center-fire rifles and pistols using jacketed projectiles I use Sweet's 7.62 solvent, and it makes the copper flow out like blue paint, but it will be hard on bronze cleaning brushes unless you hose them off immediately with spray carb cleaner in a can or use plastic ones.. Otherwise, it's EEZOX, which is a CLP (clean, lube, protect) and works very well in that regard. For a protector (not a cleaner), synthetic "Sheath" oil by Birchwood-Casey is also very good - is a lot like if not the same chemical recipe as the synth oil sold by Herter's many years ago. Your success at cleaning depends a lot on your tools - must have good brushes that will make good contact with the bore and a nice supply of cotton patches, either cut up from old T-shirts or a pack you can get from a store that has them already pre-cut, ready to use. Then it is a matter of patience to stay at it until all the grunge is removed and gone.
 
 

26 posted on 07/26/2009 10:43:50 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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Simple Green works well with elbow grease. Dry thoroughly and oil well. Orange Oil is excellent for the furniture, just don’t use on synthetics...


27 posted on 07/26/2009 10:54:45 AM PDT by waterhill (I beg you listen to us, lest we hang your sorry asses....)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I use brake cleaner to get superficial crud off my guns. It cleans well, leaves no residue, and its cheap.

I was warned several years ago to avoid using WD-40 on firearms. Because of its properties it supposedly penetrates the primers and when you pull the trigger the gun goes “click” instead of “BOOM”.

I don’t know if this is true or not because, just in case, I have not used WD-40 on my firearms.


28 posted on 07/26/2009 11:04:15 AM PDT by 43north (11.04.08: the day America committed voluntary suicide)
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WD-40 is the ‘cure-all’ that really excells at nothing. Get yourself some Ballistol. Tried and true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistol


29 posted on 07/26/2009 11:07:08 AM PDT by Moltke
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I know that this might sound a little nuts, but in a pinch you can use olive oil as a lubricant. I use it on my black powder pistol and on some of my knives. Just wipe off all excess with a couple of clean patches.


30 posted on 07/26/2009 11:07:18 AM PDT by dog breath
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To: JRandomFreeper
It's the patchouli from an earlier age...
31 posted on 07/26/2009 11:23:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: JRandomFreeper

same here. I fill up old spray bottles. I also soak my truck cab air freshener ‘scent trees’ in the stuff........ hoppes #9, best smell ever.


32 posted on 07/26/2009 11:34:19 AM PDT by bobby.223
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To: waterhill

“Simple Green works well with elbow grease”

DON”T USE THAT GOO ON ANYTHING MADE OF ALUMINUM ! ! ! !

Check the receiver of your Mossberg with a magnet, then “Listen To Ypur Magnet”.

Simple Green will attack aluminum and if left on will result in a form of intergranular corrosion which may render the part unsafe.


33 posted on 07/26/2009 11:41:33 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Break Free CLP. Best stuff I've ever used.

For copper fouling I use Hoppes Copper Solvent.

But in my experience the Break Free cuts through everything but copper fouling.

34 posted on 07/26/2009 11:46:54 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Heh. I'm posting from a convent and have made vows too .... I'm actually a former Pointer Sister.


35 posted on 07/26/2009 11:52:18 AM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: Daffynition
No, seriously. I took a vow. I can't afford any more marriages. I'm through with buying houses for wimmen that hate me.

The simple life works better.

/johnny

36 posted on 07/26/2009 11:56:50 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I hear ya ...there's something to be said for the power of *one.*
37 posted on 07/26/2009 12:19:36 PM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

WD-40 evaporates and leaves a residue that over time and repeated use, can build up. It is better than nothing but if you can wait, just buy some stuff designed to clean guns.


38 posted on 07/26/2009 1:03:41 PM PDT by BorisTheBulletDodger (Bang!)
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To: Owl_Eagle

If you enjoy that kind of thing, I guess that’s OK

But it is certainly not necessary

Sorry, I don’t know about the WD40- but I wouldn’t try it untill I knew for certain.

Let us know if you find an answer to that.

WD-40 is a ‘penetrating’ oil - it might get into places you dont want it? (pure guess)


39 posted on 07/26/2009 2:01:11 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Moltke

what about “Marvel Mystery Oil” for a lube before storage?


40 posted on 07/26/2009 2:04:52 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Owl_Eagle

WD is a lubricant, not a cleaning agent. Get some hoppes number nine..


41 posted on 07/26/2009 2:09:59 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
My dad introduced me to Hoppe’s solvent in 1956. I was eight years old in the Cub Scouts. We shot .22s every couple of weeks in the Scouts and it seemed as natural as breathing...
42 posted on 07/26/2009 2:43:50 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Owl_Eagle

You only need a few good responses instead of a hundred silly replies.

1. Break Free
2. Hoppe’s
2. Elbow grease
3. Never, but never throw out an old toothbrush.

Don’t buy the junk cleaning rods for your rifles and pistols. Save your money and buy nothing but Dewey cleaning rods.


43 posted on 07/26/2009 5:37:28 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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You got it Shooter.

If you ever buy a Glock they are dishwasher safe!


44 posted on 07/26/2009 6:02:09 PM PDT by Eaker (The Two Loudest Sounds in the World.....Bang When it should have been Click and the Reverse.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I don’t think WD40 would hurt anything. It would do in a pinch if you needed to take the gun outside while it was raining or something. I usually stick to Break Free CLP or LSA myself. Hoppe’s #9 for cleaning the barrel.

http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html


45 posted on 07/26/2009 11:50:42 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Mr. K

Sorry, I have no experience with Marvel Mystery Oil.


46 posted on 07/27/2009 4:49:06 AM PDT by Moltke
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To: Owl_Eagle

Hoppes No. 9.

Can’t go wrong with Hoppes.

It’s also a good substitute for Chanel No. 5 if you want to get your wife/girlfriend a special gift. ;)


47 posted on 07/27/2009 4:56:53 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: smokingfrog
I don’t think WD40 would hurt anything.

I had sprayed some WD40 onto a Ruger Mark II and unfortunately some dripped down into the trigger mechanism. WD40 really should not be near moving parts.

48 posted on 07/27/2009 7:11:53 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Owl_Eagle
WD 40 is hygroscopic, i.e. it will absorb water over time. Good for the occassional wipe-down of the exterior, and I've hosed down weapons that have been immersed in water with it, but never leave it on stored guns.
49 posted on 07/27/2009 9:46:37 AM PDT by gundog
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To: bobby.223
I also soak my truck cab air freshener ‘scent trees’ in the stuff........ hoppes #9, best smell ever.

Heh, I've gotta try that. In fact, I'm a bit surprised that the car washes in Texas don't offer that fragrance! ;-)

50 posted on 07/27/2009 11:16:12 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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