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'FLYING FORTRESS’ HERE WITH RECORD (8/2/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz
| 8/2/39
| Hanson W. Baldwin
Posted on 08/02/2009 5:32:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: aviation; realtime
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The main story describes the plane as a Boeing 39. The picture looks exactly like an XB-15 I found at the Boeing website. (I will post a link on the following reply.) That model is named in the second article in this post.
. . . for about two hours the flight was continued in a light fall of snow, so fine that it drifted through the windshield.
I have a little trouble believing that. What happens when it rains? Does that cabin crew don slickers?
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posted on
08/02/2009 5:36:46 AM PDT
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
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posted on
08/02/2009 5:37:49 AM PDT
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Dad
728th squadron, 452nd Heavy Bombardment Group
Deopham Green, England
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posted on
08/02/2009 5:56:21 AM PDT
by
bill1952
(Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Another significant event of today is a letter written to FDR by Albert Einstein. This letter was written with the help of Hungarian physicist Leo Szilard.
Szilard, Einstein, and other prominent physicists like Edward Teller and Eugene Wigner had a genuine concern that with the recent advances in nuclear physics that it would soon be possible to create a sustained chain reaction in which the immediate release of energy would be enormous. This release could be used as a bomb of unspeakable power. They warned of the dangers of Hitler obtaining this capability before the United States and the consequences of such a weapon in the hands of Nazi Germany.
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08/02/2009 6:06:19 AM PDT
by
CougarGA7
(If I disagree with you, it is because you are wrong.)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Yesterday, I got a closeup inspection of the B-17 at the Lone Star flight museum. Ah, the smell of gun grease :) Outside the planet looking forward from the tail gunner's position, the machine looks truly gigantic.
I was there for my dad's birthday flight on their T-6 Texan. He loved it.
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posted on
08/02/2009 6:34:38 AM PDT
by
Spirochete
(Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
so fine that it drifted through the windshield.
Just a thought. Theses were multi piece glass. Might be difficult, especially on the early models to get a complete air seal. Water might actually help seal the system.
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posted on
08/02/2009 6:38:56 AM PDT
by
PeterPrinciple
( Seeking the truth here folks.)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
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posted on
08/02/2009 6:45:53 AM PDT
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PeterPrinciple
( Seeking the truth here folks.)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
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posted on
08/02/2009 6:48:45 AM PDT
by
SERKIT
("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
it is definitely XB, simply look at how thin/narrow the tail end is compared to the production planes
they knew a quick burst from a fighters guns would saw it right off...
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posted on
08/02/2009 7:12:16 AM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
yeah i saw that. my thought was mpisture froze on the inside of the windshield and drifted off that.
also, in the companion story crime is out of control on long island. two goldfinches stolen.
To: PeterPrinciple
www.aero-web.org. A heck of a site. Bookmarked it and sent it to my brother. Thanks.
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08/02/2009 7:28:48 AM PDT
by
frposty
(I'm a simpleton)
To: bill1952
That is a nice photo. How did your father fare during his tour? My uncle was navigator on a B-17 in the 533rd squadron of the 381st bomber group out of Ridgwell, England. He flew 3 1/2 round trips to Europe before being shot down and incarcerated on 11 Jan 44. I used to be able to find a site that has crew photos and a log of missions but it eludes me at the moment. I need to record the site address where I won’t lose it. When the time comes (Dec 2013) I will post the notice of his arrival in England.
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08/02/2009 8:51:07 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: CougarGA7
Thanks for posting. I wonder if FDR understood the implications of this letter.
By a neat coincidence, three days hence, Winston Churchill will pen a letter to British Secretary of State for Air Kingsley Wood on this same subject. (To be posted on 5 Aug.) Winnie's take on the matter is a little different. He fears that HM government will be overly concerned about the possibility of Germany developing an atomic bomb for use in the foreseeable future. Churchill sees that as unlikely.
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08/02/2009 9:06:14 AM PDT
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Spirochete
Yesterday, I got a closeup inspection of the B-17 at the Lone Star flight museum. Ah, the smell of gun grease :) Outside the planet looking forward from the tail gunner's position, the machine looks truly gigantic.We have an annual fly-in here in Springfield, I mean Watsonville. Two or three years ago a couple of the few surviving B-17s came in. I didn't attend the show but I parked on the street and got a fairly close look at a parked plane. I was surprised at how small it looked. That might have just been my perspective. Maybe I wasn't as close as I thought.
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08/02/2009 9:14:28 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: PeterPrinciple
That looks like a prototype of the B-29. The one in the article lookes more like a 17. Maybe the reporter got the wrong designation. Hanson Baldwin, who wrote the sidebar article, was a West Pointer and probably had more expertise than the author of the page one article.
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08/02/2009 9:19:33 AM PDT
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: beebuster2000
. . . in the companion story crime is out of control on long island. two goldfinches stolen.Don't forget the radio. They busted the lawyer. Figures.
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08/02/2009 9:21:42 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: alfa6
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08/02/2009 9:29:26 AM PDT
by
Loud Mime
(More government jobs and benefits and more unemployment sets the stage for real disaster)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
not just any radio. a japanese radio.
To: beebuster2000
oops. radio was who knows what, finches were japanese. that makes more sense.
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