Posted on 08/11/2009 6:06:13 AM PDT by Liberty1970
If you ask Dr. Steven Spady, there are two important words missing from the nation’s conversation about health reform: “personal responsibility.”
But Spady, a 54-year-old emergency physician in rural Kentucky, can’t talk about the topic right now. He’s too busy caring for people who he says don’t take care of themselves.
“I just had to go take care of man that left our hospital this morning and now has gone and got drunk and will suck up more health care dollars,” Spady wrote in a hurried e-mail late on a recent weeknight.
That same day, he cared for a 358-pound man with diabetes who didn’t take his medication for two days and then stayed up all night playing poker, plus five different people who overdosed on prescription drugs.
“It just makes me very upset when I have to pay more and more taxes to support government health care programs and have to work longer and longer hours to help a lot of people that just don’t seem to care,” he wrote.
It’s not that Spady lacks compassion. He’s been on medical missions to Mexico and Haiti and has donated thousands of hours of free care in the Appalachian community where he’s worked for nearly a quarter century.
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Socialization of healthcare, whether via insurance companies or the government, ought to be illegal. If I break my arm, why on earth should anyone else on the planet be forced to pay for it?? It's one thing to be charitable (and I sincerely encourage everyone to help those in need with healthcare costs), but coercion to require payment for other people's health costs is just plain evil.
So why should Person A (etc.) be forced to pay for Person B's bad choices??
Tort reform -— The missing two words.
The doughnut is just a diversion.
To go further with that thought: Is it Person A’s right to tell Person B how to live?
They don’t give a damn about your health; it’s power over your entire life they want including your bank account.
The more I think about it the more I wish I could go to the veterinarian for treatment. At least with the vet I have choices without government or insurance company interference.
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In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing in the prologue,
"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevski said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."
Stimulus has nothing to do with getting the economy back on it's feet.
Cap and Trade has nothing to do improving Energy production or controlling Pollution.
The Health Care bill has nothing to do with improving health care.
EVERYTHING NANCY PELOSI AND HARRY REID HAVE DONE SINCE BEFORE THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND SINCE WITH OBAMA'S HELP HAS BEEN ABOUT SECURING POWER FOR THEIR FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND TAKING ALL POWER AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC!
1) Let some really smart person make all the decisions for the mass of stupid people.
2) Make people experience the consequences of making bad decisions.
The first choice is the path of socialism and slavery. The second choice is the path of individualism and freedom. Right now, we're on the wrong path.
Our vet is so much more responsive than our doctors, LOL. They actually make follow up calls after you’ve had a sick dog to them. Often they’ll call later in the day, or the next day to check up on them. Has a physician ever done that for us...heck no...it’s even hard to get in to see them after you’ve been released from the hospital and the hospital has recommended a follow up visit. Oh well, it is what it is.
No...but it isn't person A's responsibility to bear the cost for the way person B has lived.
For example, a person who works out intensely and regularly should pay for health insurance that reflects actuarial assumptions for similar individuals instead of a group that includes mostly couch potatoes and over-eaters.
Good points. And in the past churches and other charities - the community - passed around the hat to help those truly in need.
Real compassion consists of iving voluntarily to those who need it, not having the government force people to support others who are not even trying to help themselves.
But the welfare state encourages people to see how much they can take from the system.
Exactly. The left sent out the trial lawyers and activists to break the system. Now, the politicians - both democrat and Republican - "have no choice" but to take it over.
This was a planned take over from the beginning. Overwhelm the system so much, the people cry out for the politicians to "save them"
This trick worked on our marriages, our schools, our housing, our banks, our insurance corps., they're still working on welfare autos, and now they're after our flesh and blood.
No one is talking about tort reform. If they kill the disease, they'll lose the power to milk the symptoms forever.
They'll have absolute power if they can control our DNA. Universal Health Care gave it to Hitler, so it'll work for them, too.
(Never mind that the women using their services are perfectly aware of their legal status/situation, are choosing to use them freely and voluntarily, and that studies show homebirth with midwives is as safe as a hospital or safer for low-risk pregnancies.)
My sister-in-law is a vet, I'll have to keep her in mind if I ever need some treatment, LOL.
Your first comment is absolutely right. That’s why there should not be government health care.
Yeah. I have a niece that's a vet. I can see her getting rich in the future, because she'll offer better health care to humans than the Socialist system would.
I see Holistic medicine being really big.
The old Soviet Union had all kinds of kook "doctors", from voodoo to trance states, to chanting, etc. I'll bet this is what America will be like in the next 10 years.
Obamacare: Abort the unborn, kill the old, save money, give money saved to Democrat constituents. Obama rules for life. Eat your heart out Hugo Chavez.
Seriously, the billing issues associated with healthcare are just insane. A few years ago another sister-in-law was looking for a new kidney and somehow I wound up as the leading donor candidate (despite her having 6 blood siblings, go figure). I had to go to a couple hospitals for extensive tests to determine our compatibility, and was assured all along by her transplant specialist that I wouldn't have to pay any of the bills, which of course makes sense. All the bills were supposed to go to my sister-in-law's account since it was all for her sake.
For the next 15 months I just got endless bills, re-submitted bills, and so on (up to the 6th and 7th iterations), for these tests. The transplant specialist was very friendly and patient and helpful every time I had to call her to try to get these taken care of, but I can't imagine the amount of time wasted by various people as they tried to get all their billing straightened out. There is no good reason for such messes.
Ridiculous argument. Why not ask: Why should childless couples pay school taxes.. etc
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