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Snake with foot found in China
Telegraph ^ | 13 Sep 2009 | Telegraph

Posted on 09/14/2009 9:11:38 AM PDT by BGHater

A snake with a single clawed foot has been discovered in China, according to reports.

Dean Qiongxiu, 66, said she discovered the reptile clinging to the wall of her bedroom with its talons in the middle of the night.

"I woke up and heard a strange scratching sound. I turned on the light and saw this monster working its way along the wall using his claw," said Mrs Duan of Suining, southwest China.

Mrs Duan said she was so scared she grabbed a shoe and beat the snake to death before preserving its body in a bottle of alcohol.

The snake – 16 inches long and the thickness of a little finger – is now being studied at the Life Sciences Department at China's West Normal University in Nanchang.

Snake expert Long Shuai said: "It is truly shocking but we won't know the cause until we've conducted an autopsy."

A more common mutation among snakes is the growth of a second head, which occurs in a similar way to the formation of Siamese twins in humans.


(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: china; foot; snake
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1 posted on 09/14/2009 9:11:39 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater
The animal equivalent of a one-legged man at a butt-kicking contest!
2 posted on 09/14/2009 9:13:16 AM PDT by Jagman (They comport, We deride!)
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To: BGHater

A snake with feet? Sounds like the U.S. Congress.


3 posted on 09/14/2009 9:14:49 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From Barack Hussein Al-Obama. Amen.)
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To: BGHater

Looks like lunch tried to escape.


4 posted on 09/14/2009 9:15:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Put butter on your tag line.)
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To: BGHater

Looks like it swallowed something that tried to escape from its gullet.


5 posted on 09/14/2009 9:15:57 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

That demeans snakes.


6 posted on 09/14/2009 9:16:38 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: Lazamataz

OMG...looks like we had the same thought at the exact same time. Any other FReeper and I wouldn’t be worried...


7 posted on 09/14/2009 9:16:49 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: BGHater
Why all the fuss?

This is nothing more than a DEMOCRAT with the other foot either up its' A$$ or in its' mouth.

8 posted on 09/14/2009 9:17:00 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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9 posted on 09/14/2009 9:17:12 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: BGHater

10 posted on 09/14/2009 9:18:00 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: BGHater
Could it be ... Satan?
11 posted on 09/14/2009 9:20:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Surrender to your Inner Laz.

Embrace the power of the LAZ SIDE.


12 posted on 09/14/2009 9:20:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Put butter on your tag line.)
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To: Disambiguator

Trogdor rules!


13 posted on 09/14/2009 9:21:35 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: BGHater

maybe it’s really just a one-legged lizard?


14 posted on 09/14/2009 9:22:15 AM PDT by Gman (Anglican Priest)
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To: Lazamataz

15 posted on 09/14/2009 9:23:30 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Damn. Knew I should have wore underwear.


16 posted on 09/14/2009 9:24:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Put butter on your tag line.)
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To: Lazamataz

btttt


17 posted on 09/14/2009 9:25:38 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Lazamataz
"Damn. Knew I should have wore underwear."

Yeah? Well, my "inner-Laz" ruined my T-shirt...


18 posted on 09/14/2009 9:28:21 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Lazamataz; Joe 6-pack
Damn. Knew I should have wore underwear.

We have two-headed snakes? No wonder Olberman hates us.

19 posted on 09/14/2009 9:29:07 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Good 'Ol Mr. Wilson!!)
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To: BGHater

The first time I saw a walking catfish in Florida, it shook me up a little.


20 posted on 09/14/2009 9:31:23 AM PDT by alarm rider (Live free or die.)
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To: BGHater

Well if it was a one foot snake it can’t be 16 inches.


21 posted on 09/14/2009 9:32:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Beat me to it!


22 posted on 09/14/2009 9:32:20 AM PDT by Conservative_Jedi (Give me Liberty or give me Death!!)
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To: BGHater
Nature's response to all the Gadsden flags out there: A snake that can tread on itself.
23 posted on 09/14/2009 9:33:02 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: BGHater
A more common mutation among snakes is the growth of a second head, which occurs in a similar way to the formation of Siamese twins in humans.

Isn't the PC term conjoined twins now?

24 posted on 09/14/2009 9:33:03 AM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: BGHater
Makes sense. Snakes have an ancestor that walked on land. The remains of the vestigial limbs can be seen on a snake.


25 posted on 09/14/2009 9:35:20 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: BGHater

Bump


26 posted on 09/14/2009 9:37:22 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: alarm rider

Yup, the walking catfish are pretty freaky.

Florida has become a bit too exotic for my taste.


27 posted on 09/14/2009 9:37:43 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Joe 6-pack

Oh, no, that big lump right where the leg sticks out of its stomach couldn’t possibly be something the snake swallowed!/SAR


28 posted on 09/14/2009 9:38:49 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: BGHater

What a shame she killed it. Would have made a fascinating zoo exhibit.


29 posted on 09/14/2009 9:44:01 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Lazamataz

30 posted on 09/14/2009 9:47:23 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: mysterio
"The remains of the vestigial limbs can be seen on a snake."

What evidence do you have to show that these are "vestigial" leftovers of limbs, and not budding antecedents that are evolving into limbs?

31 posted on 09/14/2009 9:48:13 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Borax Queen
Well?

:-)

32 posted on 09/14/2009 9:54:35 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: BGHater

dragon?


33 posted on 09/14/2009 9:56:20 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Joe 6-pack
What evidence do you have to show that these are "vestigial" leftovers of limbs, and not budding antecedents that are evolving into limbs?

Because that's not how evolution works. A species doesn't make some kind of collective decision to modify its morphology in some direction to fill some future ecological niche. Rather, natural selection gives preferential survival and reproduction odds for animals whose morphological characteristics give them some advantage over others without those characteristics.

Put simply, those little leg-buds would have to be useful for something in the here-and-now in order for them to be something that's evolving into legs (or leg-like structures). Does a snake with little leg-buds have any advantage over snakes without leg-buds - or do snakes with bigger leg-buds have advantages over snakes with smaller ones? If so, then they very well might be evolving into "legs". But it's pretty unlikely.

34 posted on 09/14/2009 10:01:58 AM PDT by Omedalus
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To: BGHater

She saved it in alcohol. Do they eat the worm in China?


35 posted on 09/14/2009 10:03:58 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Omedalus
Help me out here. Way back in time, there were no land creatures and life began in the sea. Eventually, life evolved and came out of the water. Life which had not had legs began to develop legs. Now, that would be a gradual process, involving leg-buds -- and these leg-buds would have to be useful for something in the here-and-now in order for them to be something that's evolving into legs.

So, hundreds of millions of years ago, what was the advantage conferred on animals by leg-buds?

36 posted on 09/14/2009 10:06:07 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
There's evidence in the fossil record. Here's another article.
37 posted on 09/14/2009 10:06:51 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: alarm rider
Your post is classic....

Joke rich environment....

38 posted on 09/14/2009 10:08:55 AM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Retired Greyhound
I found this wee beastie yesterday and its like nothing I've ever seen in Michigan before. About the size of a June bug but green and gold with a horn like some kind of rhinoceros beetle.

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The picture doesn't do it justice. The Iridescent emerald green caught my eye in the grass.
39 posted on 09/14/2009 10:09:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: mysterio

So eventually, the vestigial legs will completely evolve away completely?


40 posted on 09/14/2009 10:10:02 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Omedalus

Snakes are relatively recent so I would suspect the leg is a throwback rather than a step forward.


41 posted on 09/14/2009 10:12:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I wonder which one decides which way to go...


42 posted on 09/14/2009 10:13:40 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Snakes eat rats, let’s not forget.


43 posted on 09/14/2009 10:18:56 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: cripplecreek

Ha!


44 posted on 09/14/2009 10:19:58 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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45 posted on 09/14/2009 10:22:02 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Well, assuming you're asking the question in good faith and genuinely want to know...

The fossil record does not indicate migration onto land via a process of ever-growing leg-buds. Rather, it demonstrates that the ancestors of all land vertebrates were lobe-finned fish, such as the modern-day coelacanth. Legs evolved not from leg-stubs but from fins.

Fish have fins. Fins are generally frail, delicate things, great for pushing water around but not well-suited for structural support.

Of course, some fish's fins are thicker and more solid than others. In the open water, thicker fins would put a fish at slight disadvantage due to reduced maneuverability and increased calorie requirements. However, in very shallow waters, thick, load-bearing fins would be very useful, because they allow a fish to maneuver through mud and even hop from one shallow pool to another over very short distances. Fish that grow thicker fins would therefore have a survival and reproduction advantage in shallow environments, where they can get food and escape predators with relative impunity.

Long story short, there was definitely a survival pressure for some species of fish to grow their fins into thicker, more load-bearing structures to take progressively greater advantage of the land environment, which was otherwise unoccupied by any other vertebrates at the time (but filled with tasty tasty plants and some insects). The process by which they did this doesn't have to require any kind of intent on the part of the fish itself nor of any other thinking being.

This relates strictly to vertebrates, of course. I'm unfamiliar with the evolution of arthropods, whose leg structures are completely unrelated. But a few minutes on Wikipedia will help you out.

That is, assuming, you actually want to know. If you're just playing a game of gotchya, please don't waste my time. But like I said, I'm assuming you're asking in good faith.

46 posted on 09/14/2009 10:33:52 AM PDT by Omedalus
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To: Omedalus

Thanks for the info!


47 posted on 09/14/2009 10:35:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Lakeshark

*smack smack*!!!


48 posted on 09/14/2009 10:42:25 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Joe 6-pack
So eventually, the vestigial legs will completely evolve away completely?

Probably not, actually.

There's probably no disadvantage in having such tiny little leg-buds. That is, within the variance in size of existing leg-buds, there's no corresponding variance in survival. There's no reason to assume that snakes with smaller leg-buds have any reproductive advantage over snakes with larger leg-buds.

Those buds might eventually go away as the genes that encode for the formation of those buds change into meaningless, unusable DNA sequences through random mutation. However, such mutations would have to occur throughout the entire snake population on Earth in order to fully lose those buds forever (to be fair, such mutations don't have to occur at the same time nor at the same location in the DNA sequence; the point is just to mess up the DNA's ability to code for whatever protein forms those buds). When or if that happens, the broken codon that once coded for the buds will continue to exist in the DNA of the snake species, just one more of the hundreds of thousands of useless DNA sequences that every species carries around to hearken back to our evolutionary history.

49 posted on 09/14/2009 10:46:04 AM PDT by Omedalus
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To: Osage Orange

I wasn’t kidding. I saw my first fish walk across the road while taking a canoe trip near Orlando. It was freaky.


50 posted on 09/14/2009 11:02:58 AM PDT by alarm rider (Live free or die.)
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