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Constitution Party Condemns Possible MANDATORY Vaccination
Constitution Party ^ | August 8, 2009 | Constitution Party

Posted on 09/21/2009 8:17:29 AM PDT by opentalk

“It comes down to the most fundamental of all freedoms. If government can force potentially dangerous substances into our bodies what, then, can’t government do to us?” asked Constitution Party National Committee Chairman Jim Clymer.

“Whether mandated by the federal government, the individual states such as Massachusetts or international organizations like the World Health Organization WHO) or the United Nations U.N.) forcing potentially dangerous chemicals on a free people is tyranny”, Clymer added.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: h1n1; madatory; massachusetts; swineflu; thirdparty; un; vaccination; who
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To: MNJohnnie

They weren’t joking. Be nice to them. They see you when you’re sleeping. And know when you’re awake.


21 posted on 09/21/2009 8:39:26 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: BlueStateBlues
Umm I better send them a note then since Minnesota is a Conceal and Carry state. Would not want any nasty accidents to happen when they come to “vaccinate” me now would we?
22 posted on 09/21/2009 8:46:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The 0 regime: harmless as an enemy and treacherous as a friend.)
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To: Awestruck

at least in the military, you volunteer to subject your liberties to the will of others.


23 posted on 09/21/2009 8:48:33 AM PDT by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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To: pgkdan; mysterio

Saying that those objecting to the control-grab represented by forced vaccination object to the vaccine is about the same as crying racism whenever Dear Reader is criticized. Some folks may object to the idea of or ingredients in the vaccine, but most I speak to are objecting to the mandate of vaccination.

It’s about the control, not the vaccine.


24 posted on 09/21/2009 8:50:46 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: MortMan
same as crying racism whenever Dear Reader is criticize

Dear Reader! Oh wow, that is brilliant!

25 posted on 09/21/2009 8:51:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The 0 regime: harmless as an enemy and treacherous as a friend.)
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To: MortMan
Saying that those objecting to the control-grab represented by forced vaccination

I don't support forcing anyone to get the shot.

Some folks may object to the idea of or ingredients in the vaccine

There are versions with and without adjuvant.

It’s about the control, not the vaccine.

Judging from the misinformation being spread on the internet, I'd say it's both.
26 posted on 09/21/2009 8:55:21 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: MNJohnnie

It is not original to me - I have seen it many times on this board.

I do not know who to credit for it, so I shamelessly stole it! ;-P


27 posted on 09/21/2009 8:55:47 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: mysterio

I’m only speaking for myself - I quit trying to read minds on the internet (it gives me heartburn).


28 posted on 09/21/2009 8:57:08 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: BlueStateBlues
They weren’t joking. Be nice to them. They see you when you’re sleeping. And know when you’re awake.

That's only partially true. Our surveillance equipment only allows us to monitor 25 percent of the population at any given moment. However, we do surf threads like this and preferentially monitor those who have found out the sinister truth about flu shots.

Next year, we are hoping to up that to at least 35 percent.

Also, our Big Pharm conspiracy recently picked up a couple abandoned Amtrak yards from FEMA at a great discount rate. Of course we'd like to vaccinate as many as possible using coercion and chemtrails, but no technique is perfect.
29 posted on 09/21/2009 9:02:41 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: MortMan
During either type of declared emergency, a local public health authority as defined in section 1 of chapter 111 may exercise authority relative to subparagraphs (1), (2), (3), (4), (6), (7), (13), (14), and (15); and with the approval of the Commissioner may exercise authority relative to subparagraphs (5), (8), (9), (10), and (11): (1) to require the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into and investigation of the premises; (2) to close, direct, and compel the evacuation of, or to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated any building or facility, and to allow the reopening of the building or facility when the danger has ended; (3) to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated, or to destroy any material; (4) to restrict or prohibit assemblages of persons; (5) to require a health care facility to provide services or the use of its facility, or to transfer the management and supervision of the health care facility to the department or to a local public health authority; (6) to control ingress to and egress from any stricken or threatened public area, and the movement of persons and materials within the area; (7) to adopt and enforce measures to provide for the safe disposal of infectious waste and human remains, provided that religious, cultural, family, and individual beliefs of the deceased person shall be followed to the extent possible when disposing of human remains, whenever that may be done without endangering the public health; (8) to procure, take immediate possession from any source, store, or distribute any anti-toxins, serums, vaccines, immunizing agents, antibiotics, and other pharmaceutical agents or medical supplies located within the commonwealth as may be necessary to respond to the emergency; (9) to require in-state health care providers to assist in the performance of vaccination, treatment, examination, or testing of any individual as a condition of licensure, authorization, or the ability to continue to function as a health care provider in the commonwealth; (10) to waive the commonwealth’s licensing requirements for health care professionals with a valid license from another state in the United States or whose professional training would otherwise qualify them for an appropriate professional license in the commonwealth; (11) to allow for the dispensing of controlled substances by appropriate personnel consistent with federal statutes as necessary for the prevention or treatment of illness; (12) to authorize the chief medical examiner to appoint and prescribe the duties of such emergency assistant medical examiners as may be required for the proper performance of the duties of the office; (13) to collect specimens and perform tests on any animal, living or deceased; (14) to exercise authority under sections 95 and 96 of chapter 111; (15) to care for any emerging mental health or crisis counseling needs that individuals may exhibit, with the consent of the individuals.

An individual who is unable or unwilling to submit to vaccination or treatment shall not be required to submit to such procedures but may be isolated or quarantined pursuant to section 96 of chapter 111 if his or her refusal poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health, as determined by the commissioner, or a local public health authority operating within its jurisdiction.

30 posted on 09/21/2009 9:04:59 AM PDT by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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To: opentalk; BGHater; bamahead

ping


31 posted on 09/21/2009 9:06:04 AM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: agere_contra
Interresting, I really haven't kept up on this stuff as much as I should. My comment was just meant to point out
that we non-favored groups as much more likely to be
forced into something than the “squeaky wheel” ones.
32 posted on 09/21/2009 9:22:12 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: opentalk

33 posted on 09/21/2009 9:24:54 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: mysterio

yea... it’s not like there’s any history here.

what’s the worst that could possibly happen? armless kids? creeping paralysis?

all for the good of the country

/sarc

stick yourself. i’ll watch


34 posted on 09/21/2009 9:27:02 AM PDT by sten
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To: Born Conservative
Those withhout a sticker will have to wear a mask whenever within 6 feet of a patient.

And this is stupid, since both should were the mask. The un-vaccinated to avoid catching something as well as spreading something, and the vaccinated to avoid spreading the problem. Secondary transmission by the vaccinated is also a worry.

Not to mention that the particular virus in question isn't the only health problem in any given hospital ward. Nor does any given vaccine protect you from all variations of a virus.

35 posted on 09/21/2009 9:27:57 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: mysterio
When this flu season goes by and no one is forced into concentration camps and vaccinated against their will, I wonder if the anti-vaccine zealots will admit they were wrong.

I don't have an opinion on the people who are opposed to vaccines, as I am not one of them. But I sure as hell feel strongly about the government ordering me and my family to get any kind of medical treatment against my will. Can't you understand the difference? If the government ordered me to get a gas barbecue, go shooting on weekends and celebrate Christmas, it would still bug me. Once we conceded their ability to order us around, it's not much of a step at all to being ordered to do things we don't like.

36 posted on 09/21/2009 9:52:32 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Get rid of the dirty moderates. Get rid of them,)
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To: ElkGroveDan
I think also part of the concern is what legalese is in place to gain more control if wanted. There is a movement to contain this.
37 posted on 09/21/2009 10:05:58 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: ElkGroveDan

I don’t support forcing the population to get a flu shot. And I seriously doubt that’s going to happen.


38 posted on 09/21/2009 10:09:15 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

It’s not an issue for me, as I have gotten the flu vaccine yearly for the past 18-19 years.

However, you have to consider that some are not able to get the vaccine due to a contraindication.

Education is good, but that doesn’t translate into a 100% compliance rate with any vaccine or treatment.

As for hospitals being “viral incubators”, do you think that hospitals were germ free prior to the Swine Flu? It’s call “nosocomial infection”, and it’s a problem since the first hospital opened.


39 posted on 09/21/2009 10:11:53 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: slowhandluke

So everyone in the hospital in patient care areas should wear a mask whether they are symptomatic or not?

I did fail to mention that this hospital also has a policy that employees with a fever and one other flu symptom are required to be out for 7 days or fever free for 24 hours, whichever is greater.

There will always be infections transmitted in a hospital. The goal of 0 nosocomial infections should most definitely be strived for, but this will never happen. Good handwashing and use of hand sanitizer before and after entering a patient room is the best way to prevent transmission of infection.

Also, the rule is a moot point for me, as I get a flu vaccine yearly, and have been for the past 18 years or so.


40 posted on 09/21/2009 10:18:30 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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