Posted on 09/29/2009 3:48:43 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
Why would the Left and Right ever join together? It makes no sense!
the only question I have is, in whose interests was the times working?
Reich and Soviet Union join for peace.
I wonder how that’s gonna work out?
http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1939/sep39/f29sep39.htm
Friday, September 29, 1939
Germany and USSR sign friendship treaty
In Moscow... Germany and the USSR sign a boundary and friendship treaty. By its terms Poland is partitioned, giving Germany control over the area generally west of the Bug River. Germany receives nearly 73,000 square miles of Polish territory, the USSR, 78,000 square miles. While Soviet Union gets slightly more land, the Germans now control the majority of the population (some 22,000,000) and fifty percent of all Polish industry as well as substantial mining centers. All of Lithuania is transferred to the Soviet sphere of influence. An economic agreement is also signed which includes a Soviet promise to provide Germany with the entire oil output of the Dohowicz fields.
Over Germany... The RAF lost 5 Hampden bombers in a daylight raid on the Heligoland area. The raid was in two waves. In the first, 6 Hampdens attacked two German destroyers but did no damage; the second wave of 5 planes was wiped out.
In Britain... A national census is taken to obtain information on rationing and mobilization.
In London... In the House of Commons, Neville Chamberlain says that Britain and France went to war to stop Nazi aggression and nothing has changed that position. Chamberlain is believed to be referring to recent private contacts between German and British representatives that have suggested formal peace negotiations may begin.
In the United States... In New York city, Fritz Kuhn, the leader of the pro-Nazi German-American Bund, is imprisoned.
http://www.gwu.edu/~erpapers/myday/displaydoc.cfm?_y=1939&_f=md055384
SEPTEMBER 29, 1939
My Day by Eleanor Roosevelt
We drove over from Wilmington, Del., to Reading, Pa., yesterday afternoon, and because it was very foggy the drive took us longer than we had expected. It is pretty country and I love the old stone farmhouses, whitewashed and looking so spic and span.
It was too dark really to see Reading when we arrived, but we made a stop at a hospital run by a group of Catholic Sisters, to see a World War veteran who seems to have made his long illness not only bearable to himself, but of value to many other people. All he can do is to use his eyes and his voice, but he sells postcards at Christmas and makes money in various other ways to build up a fund from which he helps fellow sufferers.
When I went in, three young men were calling on him and he told me they were members of a boys’ club in which he was interested. They probably contribute much to the pleasure of his existence, but I couldn’t help thinking that this man was furnishing all of us with a valuable lesson in the way to take whatever happens to us in this world and turn it to some advantage.
The fog, and this visit, made us rather late in reaching the hotel and the press conference and photographers were somewhat hurried, as well as our dinner and our dressing. We were ready, however, in time for the lecture, and I think the time has come for me gratefully to acknowledge the fact that people in this country are most considerate of their speakers! Years ago, it seems to me, there was considerably more moving about in halls during speeches, which made it difficult for the speaker. Probably the installation of the kind of public address system which greets one on practically every platform, makes it possible for the whole audience to hear any speaker. It is no strain, even for a woman, to talk, as it usually works better if you keep your voice on its natural pitch. This is to me a great relief!
Even the photographers are kind and when I suggest that flashing bulbs after the first few minutes are a little disconcerting to the audience, they are most considerate. I always remember Ruth Bryan Rohde’s story of how a kitten playing on her stage, on one occasion, attracted all the attention from what she was saying. Flashing bulbs can have much the same effect.
After the lecture, there was only one question sent up from the audience, so we got off early enough to reach Harrisburg by midnight and get a fairly good night’s sleep on the way to New York City.
Arrived this morning, several people greeted me at our apartment and the telephone has been ringing more or less steadily.
Now I am off to see an art exhibit, meet my aunt, Mrs. David Gray, and do a number of other things on the spur of the moment, which I will tell you about tomorrow.
http://www.ww2australia.gov.au/wardeclared/
29 September 1939
Flying Officer John Tulloch Burrill Sadler, 144 Squadron RAF, was probably the second Australian killed in action. Flying Officer Sadler, who was serving in the RAF, was the pilot of a Handley Page Hampden bomber, serial L4121, part of a formation of five aircraft on a bombing mission on 29 September 1939. All five aircraft were intercepted and shot down between Heligoland and Wangerooge in Germany. Sadler, who has no known grave, is commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial in England. [Dennis Newton, First Impact, Maryborough, 1997, p.49]
If you mean the Soviet Communists, and the National Socialists of Germany, you’re not talking left and right. You’re talking shades of red. They’re both leftists.
We just need that to go viral starting with kindergartners all the way through 40-somethings.
Those are funny!
1010RD: "We just need that to go viral starting with kindergartners all the way through 40-somethings."
Our basic problems come from definitions of the word "conservative."
In America, "conservative" means someone who wants to "conserve" or "preserve" the original intent of the US Constitution and our Founders. This makes us small-government, small-r republicans who, under some circumstances can seem almost "isolationists."
In Europe, by contrast, "conservative" meant (and often today means) something altogether different -- someone who wants to "conserve" or "preserve" the old monarchical traditions of state control and foreign conquests. In other words, an entirely different animal.
So the Nazis -- National Socialists! -- claimed to be "right wing" based on their supposed adherence to "traditional values," but these were in no way the values of American conservatives, just the opposite.
Our own left-wingers, of course, just love to confuse and conflate American and European ideas of "conservatism," and so paint Nazis as "right-wing conservatives" just the same as, oh say, WWII era isolationist Senator Robert Taft, or for a modern example, say, Congressman Ron Paul. Nothing could be further from the truth.
But what could "truth" matter to government school teachers, when the real issue to them is, how to turn all these little minds into loyal leftists?
Nor did they adhere to traditional values. Hitler believed Jesus was the offspring of a Roman soldier, and a Jewish harlot. Himmler was closer to outright paganism. All were vehemently anticlerical [Hitler planned to settle up with the Churches after the war]. They didn't believe in the institution of marriage [Himmler encouraged illegitimate offspring from his SS men, and set up the Lebensborn system to provide for the children].
Hitler intended to destroy the old German society, and to create a new one. The Nazis were true radicals. There was nothing conservative about them.
Oh really? And is the same true of fascists like Italy's Mussolini and Spain's Franco? Are you drawing a distinction between fascists and Nazis?
The claim that fascists in general, including Nazis, were "right wing" or "conservative" I think is based on some key points:
Of course it's an interesting point you make, and I'm not really saying you're wrong. But if the Nazis did not call themselves "right wingers," then who did? When and how did it first happen?
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