Posted on 11/06/2009 9:44:43 PM PST by Minn
If I heard Mark Levin correctly, a civilian policewoman, that wasn't even on the scene when the rampage started, is the one that brought down Hasan with four shots, while getting shot herself. So a military base is incapable of of defending itself, and waits helplessly until a 911 call brings the cops? A brave woman is defends dozens unarmed and helpless soldiers and takes a bullet doing so? No MPs nearby? No side arms on anybody? Gun control at an Army base?
And this surprises you, why? Do you think we all run around armed to the teeth?
Yep.
Oh, and the Air Force has bases.
The Army has Forts and Posts.
Large bases will use civilian police on base. It’s normal. I don’t know why.
For some reason, this reminds me of the barracks attack in Beirut.
Shut up now, before you say something even more ignorant than you have.
Kim Munley is a hero. I just went on her twitter page, she has over 2,000 followers now. I posted a message to her so that when she recovers, she can see all the well wishes that have been sent to her
1: My understanding is that firearms are VERY tightly controlled on miltary bases. Only the MPs are *supposed* to have them, outside of (obviously) firearms training.
2: So what if it was a woman?
3: I thought I heard she was a civvy cop doing some kind of aux duty there, meaning, she was already there, didn’t have to wait for a 911 call to the “regular” police.
Corrections welcomed.
IIRC, this woman patriot was off duty but on base. Heard the call on her radio, and went to the scene. She was retired military, married to military man and had joined the civ police force for the base.
We need people like her...desperately.
Part of the why is manpower decisions made back in the 90s. An installation may have needed a battalion of MPs to do everything that needed doing; but they were only authorized a company and often an understrength one at that.
Some bean-counter somewhere convinced someone in Alexandria that DoD cops were cheaper in the long run.
Big time. I so look forward to her interviews. She IS an amazing lady, I'm sure. Rest well, Ms. Munley. Best of care.....
You know I was thinking that also, but I think tact is still a virtue.
this is her twitter page
http://twitter.com/hope2forget30
Normally I would not post someone’s twitter page but since Kim is an American hero and is recovering from her injuries, I think we should bombard her twitter page with messages of support and prayers so that when she is able to go on twitter she can see the thousands of wonderful messages to her. I think it will brighten her day
Thank you so much for bringing this up. It makes me crazy when people refer to an “Army base”.
MAJ, USA(Ret)
There is a large civilian police force on the base. She was on the scene in a matter of minutes - 3 minutes according to one report. That’s not too shabby. However, what worries me is they assumed the monster was dead because he was lying still. Imagine if he’d started firing again.
Because soldiers on training posts such as Fort Hood are there to train to fight in combat, not as cops.
Minn..
You do realize that there are strict controls on carrying loaded weapons on a stateside military installations. Weapons are typically kept in secure locations and must be signed in and signed out for specific purposes such as training on firing ranges.
A soldier would quickly be questioned by base authorities if they were seen with a weapon in an unusual area such as an office facility.
Plus Minn..do you realize just how big Fort Hood is? Its basically a small city, with over 33,000 people living there...
Civilian police work hand in hand with military police on these installations and provide valuable backup in dangerous situations such as this.
The police officer involved here that stopped the shooter is no less a hero than the troops who responded to the tragedy.
Job well done to save lives, Officer.
Yep. The same bean-counters convinced DoD to outsource base operations such as consolidated mess facilities (no more KP for troops), maintenance facilities, engineering, housing maintenance, etc.
I don't know. I know absolutely nothing about the logistics of an army fort, but it seems that, given that it's a military installation, it wouldn't take three or four minutes for somebody to get their hands on a weapon. Of all the dozens of people caught in this storm, nobody had a side arm? Is that a result of policy? Is this only on domestic installations?
Maybe I've just watched too many war movies with officers with guns on their hips. Maybe that's not reality. Still, isn't every collection of soldiers always a potential target of somebody? And since they are, shouldn't there be some protocol that prevents mass groups of them in uniform finding themselves defenseless, whether in Iraq or Texas?
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