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Bishop Attacks Morals Of Monks Who Brew Scotland’s (15% Proof) Tipple Of Choice [Gay Bishops OK?]
London Times ^ | January 17th 2010

Posted on 01/17/2010 5:43:57 PM PST by Steelfish

January 18, 2010 Bishop Attacks Morals Of Monks Who Brew Scotland’s (15% Proof) Tipple Of Choice

A bishop has condemned Buckfast, the fortified wine [Pic in URL] made by monks and regarded by some as the scourge of Scotland. The Right Rev Bob Gillies, Bishop of Aberdeen and Orkney in the Scottish Episcopal Church, accused the Devon-based Benedictine monks of betraying Christian values.

Bishop Gillies is the first senior clergyman to criticise the monks of Buckfast Abbey, who have always claimed they are not responsible for the antisocial behaviour that results from the widespread abuse of their product.

Speaking on BBC Scotland Investigates, to be broadcast tonight, Bishop Gillies said: “What sort of moral double-take is there that these monks can be so closely associated with that product and knowingly aware of the social damage as well as the medical damage it is doing to the kids who take it in such vast volumes?”

He added: “The monks at Buckfast are in a Benedictine monastery, which is founded upon the rule of St Benedict. Benedict urged his monks to live a simple life following a rule that leads them into closer discipleship with the Lord.

“St Benedict, I would have thought, would have been very, very unhappy with what his monks are doing nowadays.”

The investigation reveals that the drink, known colloquially as Buckie, has been mentioned in 5,000 crime reports by Strathclyde Police in the past three years. Almost one in ten of those crimes was violent, according to figures obtained by the BBC under freedom of information legislation. During that period the Buckfast bottle was used as a weapon 114 times and police said the figures suggested there is an association between Buckfast and violence.

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KEYWORDS: alcohol; europeanchristians; scotland
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Yes, what supreme irony. The Scottish Church attacks the morals of the Benedictine monks but allow for gay bishops
1 posted on 01/17/2010 5:43:58 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

LOL!!

Uh, yeah.


2 posted on 01/17/2010 5:48:20 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: Steelfish

Nine years down the road and I remember it still
Standing on the corner back in Govanhill
Nine days out from home, feeling no pain
That northern city sun breaking through the rain
That warmthless sun barely shining on
Me and you and a bottle of Buckie

Nine years come and gone since I left you at home
And this restless soul of mine had me starting to roam
But the first time I stood by the banks of the Clyde
I was so glad to have you standing back by my side
I was so proud of what we were doing
Me and you and a bottle of Buckie

Well, I knew by the dew in your starry eyes
It was the day we both had studied for for all of our lives
Whether bold missionaries, or a Children’s Crusade
No fear, pioneers, we were on our way
And there never were nothin’ that could get in our way

Then the Neds, with their knuckles and their Burberry scarves
They said, “How’d ye Jersey boys ever make it this far?”
But you jumped in between and said, “Listen, my son”
You said, “You don’t know nothin’ ‘bout where we’re from,
And you don’t know nothin’ ‘bout why it’s now
Me and you and a bottle of Buckie”

Three times I’ve been back in my wandering ways
Last time it was July during Marching Days
When someone said to run from that bitter parade
But I knew what you would do and I decided to stay
And I knew no one ever got the better of me and you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntMt9NFFEK4&feature=related


3 posted on 01/17/2010 5:53:21 PM PST by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: Steelfish
Generally, when dealing with distilled spirits, we refer to alcohol by volume, as a percentage, or we refer to “proof”. They are not synonamous.

The rule, for example, is 40% alcohol content = 80 proof.

The headline writer seems to have not gotten the memo.

Sursum Corda

4 posted on 01/17/2010 5:54:56 PM PST by Sursum Corda
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To: DemforBush

Great stuff!


5 posted on 01/17/2010 5:55:08 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
What's he going to rant against next? Scotch?

And what about those Trappist monks and their wine jellies?


6 posted on 01/17/2010 5:57:47 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: sionnsar

Ping!


7 posted on 01/17/2010 5:58:23 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

I like ‘em all.


8 posted on 01/17/2010 5:59:01 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

One, you don’t “brew” wine.
Two, most wine is around 12-13% alcohol by volume or 24-26 proof.
Three, the author is clearly an idiot and a twit.


9 posted on 01/17/2010 6:00:11 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Steelfish
The 15% proof you give above is confusing.

I have seen things like "80 Proof" and I have also seen "15% ABV" (alcohol by volume) but, I have not seen, 15% Proof.

10 posted on 01/17/2010 6:00:38 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Steelfish
I know some guys who would like some Buckfast.


11 posted on 01/17/2010 6:00:55 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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To: Steelfish

The Blue is the best!

12 posted on 01/17/2010 6:01:27 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: pyx

That’s from the title of the article. I think in Europe 15% proof is well understood.


13 posted on 01/17/2010 6:02:28 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Wine - It’s not just for Buckfast anymore!


14 posted on 01/17/2010 6:03:59 PM PST by uglybiker (BACON!!)
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To: Steelfish
European headline writers are confused. See Post #4 above.

15 posted on 01/17/2010 6:06:02 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Steelfish

I remember reading that minimalist orders of monks in Ireland limited themselves to the consumption of 8 pints of beer per day. ;)

Granted, I have no idea what percent alcohol was in those pints, but I find it mind-boggling.


16 posted on 01/17/2010 6:13:32 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Prokopton

True you don’t ‘brew’ wine, but you can ‘fortify’ it by adding a distilled alcohol to it.


17 posted on 01/17/2010 6:26:36 PM PST by CDFingers (I don't want 0bama to fail. He wants it bad enough for the both of us!)
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To: GOP_Raider

Insulting monks who brew beer ping!


18 posted on 01/17/2010 6:46:41 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Steelfish; pyx

Marking bottle by % is pretty standard all over the world. Thats the way its done inmost of Asia also. Some places will have both...but always have the % designated.


19 posted on 01/17/2010 6:51:41 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Steelfish
Fortified wine? 15 proof?

Normal, non-fortified wine runs around 25 proof. Sweet German wines run somewhat less, around 20 proof. True fortified wines, such as sherry, are more like 36 proof. 15 proof is strong beer at best.

20 posted on 01/17/2010 6:51:50 PM PST by cynwoody
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