TEXAS GOP candidates clash in final TV debate (Vanity)

[Dubya]

The three Republican candidates for governor clashed in a final televised debate Friday night, sharpening their differences as they jockeyed for advantage going into the March 2 primary campaign.

VOTE FOR MEDINA IN MARCH 2ND 2010 PRIMARY FOR TEXAS GOVERNOR SHE IS FOR ELIMIINATION OF PROPERTY TAX AND GUN REGISTRATION

[humblegunner]

So, how is the weather in BOSTON today, troll?

Pretty cold, but nice and toasty here in the ACORN troll-post office.

We got donuts with the daily talking point sheets.

Yay!

[DesertRhino]

It is not registration. Not even close. The form you fill out when you buy one new is the end. You take the gun home,, play around with it a little, and decide you don’t want it after all. You can then legally sell it to a friend or stranger with no paperwork.

You have no requirement to notify you sold it. The friend has no obligation to notify the government that he has accquired it. The government has no list to point to that they can then demand you account for the whereabouts of any gun.

That is what registration looks like.

[Eaker]

And my damn homestead exemption didn’t kick in until this year.

Because of the midget or because yer a homo from Boston?

[humblegunner]

Because the retard who filed it in 2009 didn’t realize
it does not cover the year in which the filing occurs.

Glad I ain’t married to her any more.

[agondonter]

With a sales tax everyone would have to pay, not just property owners. Illegals would have to pay for the schools they use.

[DesertRhino]

“she scolded KBH for not voting for Sotomayor”

Typical,, KBH voted with the leftist women when tailhook came up,, now Medina won’t diss a hispanic,,, so i guess it’d be hunky-dory for me to say vote for Perry, so we don’t alienate the white male vote?

[agondonter]

Medina supports a sales tax. With sales tax everyone pays, not just property owners. Illegals would be paying for the schools they use.

[Eaker]

Maybe Medina could take some campaigning tips from Hillary.

[agondonter]

Medina supports a sales tax. With sales tax everyone pays, not just property owners. Illegals would be paying for the schools they use.

[DesertRhino]

you do not have to list the specific gun for a concealed carry license,, the license says you can carry one. It does not say you own one,,, Medina was a moron to say this.

[Eaker]

Illegals would be paying for the schools they use.

Illegals pay property tax when they pay rent and should be kicked out anyway.

Note, I am only going to respond once.

[humblegunner]

[The Comedian]

How does she plan to fund state and local expenditures?

Sell our illegal Mexicans to China, and rent back our northern Yankee population as slave labor to the agricultural markets which are depopulated by the Mexican selling/expulsion.

Think it'll work?

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

[wild74]

I will support Medina if she gets the nod, but Rick Perry I think will win and will slaughter White in Nov. It is true that a sales tax would hit everyone but I think property taxes are hitting everyone as it is, if Illegals are renting the owner is paying property taxes. I would have to have it explained to me how a sales tax would work because I live in Texas right next to Shreveport I would just go over there and shop because of lower sales taxes, people stuck in the inner part of Texas couldn't do that. I think in the long run a sales tax would hurt Texas

[willyd]

A Firearms Transaction Record, or Form 4473, is a United States government form that must be filled out when a person purchases a firearm from a Federal Firearm License holder (such as a gun shop). The Form 4473 contains name, address, date of birth, government-issued photo ID, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check transaction number, make/model/serial number of the firearm, and a short federal affidavit stating that the purchaser is eligible to purchase firearms under federal law. Lying on this form is a felony and can be punished by up to five years in prison in addition to fines, even if the transaction is simply denied by the NICS. The dealer also records all information from the Form 4473 into their "bound-book". A dealer must keep this log the entire time they are in business and is required to surrender the log to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) upon retirement from the firearms business. The ATF is allowed to inspect, as well as request a copy of the Form 4473 from the dealer during the course of a criminal investigation. In addition, the sale of two or more handguns to a person in a five day period must be reported to ATF on Form 3310.4. If a person purchases a firearm from a private individual who is not a licensed dealer, the purchaser is not required in most states to complete a Form 4473, though some states force individual sellers to sell through dealers. These forms are given the same status as a tax return under the Privacy Act of 1974 and cannot be disclosed by the government to private parties or other government officials except in accordance with the Privacy Act. Individual dealers possessing a copy of the form are not subject to the Privacy Act's restrictions on disclosure. Dealers are required to maintain completed forms for 20 years in the case of completed sales and 5 years where the sale was denied by the NICS check coming back disapproved or other disqualifying information. I am not sure how you could say that form 4473 doesn't qaulify as registration.

[willyd]

A Firearms Transaction Record, or Form 4473, is a United States government form that must be filled out when a person purchases a firearm from a Federal Firearm License holder (such as a gun shop).

The Form 4473 contains name, address, date of birth, government-issued photo ID, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check transaction number, make/model/serial number of the firearm, and a short federal affidavit stating that the purchaser is eligible to purchase firearms under federal law. Lying on this form is a felony and can be punished by up to five years in prison in addition to fines, even if the transaction is simply denied by the NICS.

The dealer also records all information from the Form 4473 into their "bound-book".

A dealer must keep this log the entire time they are in business and is required to surrender the log to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) upon retirement from the firearms business. The ATF is allowed to inspect, as well as request a copy of the Form 4473 from the dealer during the course of a criminal investigation. In addition, the sale of two or more handguns to a person in a five day period must be reported to ATF on Form 3310.4.

If a person purchases a firearm from a private individual who is not a licensed dealer, the purchaser is not required in most states to complete a Form 4473, though some states force individual sellers to sell through dealers.

These forms are given the same status as a tax return under the Privacy Act of 1974 and cannot be disclosed by the government to private parties or other government officials except in accordance with the Privacy Act. Individual dealers possessing a copy of the form are not subject to the Privacy Act's restrictions on disclosure. Dealers are required to maintain completed forms for 20 years in the case of completed sales and 5 years where the sale was denied by the NICS check coming back disapproved or other disqualifying information.

I am not sure how you could say that form 4473 doesn't qaulify as registration.

[bgill]

Is talking legal Hispanics or illegals? Legal, I have no problem with and I’d heard she was against illegals.

[Eaker]

The Form 4473 is not tracked and the firearm at any tine can be sold or disposed of with no notification to anyone.

It is bullshit, but it is NOT registration.

[Eaker]

It doesn’t much matter as Medina can’t do a damn thing about Form 4473 anyway.

We are just pointing out that she doesn’t know what she is talking about.

[willyd]

If it isn’t tracked then why does the ATF require the dealer to return the records to them instead of say ... destroying them?

I think you are being naive if you are arguing that recording a person’s name, address, social, make, model, serial number, background check etc. at the time of purchase and requiring it to be accessible for inspection does not constitute registration.

To put it another way, if you were going to require registration for new guns, what information would you put on the form that isn’t already mentioned? If the answer is nothing, then you are staring at a registration form my friend.