Posted on 02/19/2010 5:51:27 AM PST by wizard1961
“Any questions?”
Yes. Are you concerned that by repeating “Kenyan Imposter” it may become harder to win elections?
IMO, we should request standard documents from all Presidents, VPs, Senators, and Reps.
Shall we duel at dawn? Pistols or swords?
I agree.
I’m a live and let live sort of guy, that is beyond categorizing folks per their positions on issues.
Article II states POTUSA shall be a ‘natural born citizen’. this isfact not interprtation. Article I Section 8 embeds the Law of Nations into the Constitution and intentionally so at the Founding Convention. This is fact not interpretation. The Law of Nations is specific that a natural born citizen is one ‘ born in the country of parentS who are it’s citizenS’. This is fact not interpretation. These facts are part of the many issues involved about BHO.
Oh -- so then for 220 years of American electoral history, no one running for the Presidency knew what it meant???? It was just a coincidence that all of them except one met the qualifications of "natural born citizen" defined by Justice Marshall in The Venus case as early as 1824???
so it therefore defaults to the accepted interpretation, in the year of 2010, of what a natural born citizen is:
Oh --- so then we in 2010 get to change the meaning of the words of a document written 220 years ago??? Can we change the definition again in 4 years and 4 years after that???
Isn't it true that your real name is Humpty Dumpty???
How one expends his or her time is up to the individual. If folks want to spend seconds or hours on the question of the eligibility of Barack Obama to serve as President of the United States and Commander in Chief of its armed forces is up to each of them. More time was spent on the passing of Anna Nicole Smith and the philandering of Tiger Woods. So that time expenditure question is a red herring.
The eligibility question goes beyond the mere presentation of a ‘long form’ birth certificate. That is almost a diversion, but does point out the lengths to which Obama and Co. have gone to sequester his entire life’s history. His is gonna be one helluva presidential library. Perhaps a Hall of Mirrors would be appropriate.
The Framers were very concerned with and specific about qualifications for holding office in the new government they were founding: most notably in the qualifications to serve as President of the United States and Commander in Chief of its armed forces. Only there did they specify that the POTUS must be a ‘natural born’ citizen.
Unfortunately the Framers did not define for future generations what they understood that term to mean. We can only speculate about its meaning as there is no one alive today from the original group of Framers. (I speculate that those Framers would consider the need for definition of ‘natural born’ similar to defining ‘is’).
Thus, that definition is left to the Supreme Court. At some point, the High Court will have to clarify that phrase, if not now with the Obama situation, at some point in the future. It is and will remain a very viable question for the High Court to determine. It will not be resolved with various online arguments one way or the other.
Article II states POTUSA shall be a ‘natural born citizen’. this isfact not interprtation. Article I Section 8 embeds the Law of Nations into the Constitution and intentionally so at the Founding Convention. This is fact not interpretation. The Law of Nations is specific that a natural born citizen is one ‘ born in the country of parentS who are it’s citizenS’. This is fact not interpretation. These facts are part of the many issues involved about BHO.
“How one expends his or her time is up to the individual.”
I totally agree. What I meant, though, was there is a limited opportunity (more than time) for any group to pitch their objectives.
This is why the MSM is desperate to “stamp” both The Tea Partiers and Sarah Palin as objectionable. Once people think the already know “you” it is hard to earn a fresh look.
IMO, as soon as a person says “Kenya” the audience will immediately “know” who you “are” and will stop listening.
I’ll take Biden any old day. At least he isn’t a pathological narcissist, Marxist, thug and he wouldn’t get every black person in the US, most that have never even voted before, come out to vote for him. Voting for color is insane and dangerous. You vote for the most qualified and the one that will be able to lead, NOT RULE!
I'm not sure if that was said tongue-in-cheek, but either way, it made me laugh.
What was it you "categorized" me as? Oh, yes, an "apologist for perfidy."
Support and defense of the Constitution of the United States. Maybe you don't care about that part of it, and care more for partisan political advantage. But if you don't defend it all, what part(s) will Obummer ignore next? Maybe a part you do care about?
I, El Gato, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
The Constitution doesn't require sucn an oath for no reason you know. That's reason enough for me.
You're a professor? I'm, uh...impressed. Yes, that's the ticket: impressed.
So you would redefine the meaning of the Constitution, not only with an amendment, without even a vote in Congress? The meaning that counts is the 1787 meaning, not what 50% + 1 can be convinced is the "today" meaning.
The “Law of Nations” referenced in the Constitution refers to international law, not a treatise by de Vattel. Yes, I know it’s capitalized, but so are many other terms that don’t refer to proper nouns, titles or names. It was the writing style of that era.
I asked for the end, you gave me the reason. I agree with your reason, but I question the tactics. Please see my BLUE comment just a few comments up.
I have addressed the concern you raised several times. Essentially, I am looking for the best way to go forward. The COTUS has been damaged hundreds of times... what is the best way to turn things around?
IMO, we need to maintain what I call “the Teaper Surge” so we can win elections & counter the MSM Narrative Machine. I think tactics matter, and those who say “Kenya” will be immediately marginalized.
Is there another way to pursue the goal that will be more effective?
Yea, for whoever is the President.
Yea, it worked so well for Gerald Ford.
There would be no sympathy for a man and a party, who knew, or should have known, that their standard bearer was not eligible to the Oficce of President, and allowed him to represent them anyway. None.
Likely it would destroy the Democratic party.
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