Posted on 03/01/2010 5:19:20 PM PST by Chasaway
I want to build an AR-15 from scratch....
I [obviously] want to make it mine...and as least expensively as possible.
The web is full of info on this, but I've always gotten great advice from this forum..
Alright...now I’m confused.
If I buy a lower from a private owner, are you saying that’s illegal too?
I thought that any of this bought privately (meaning not through a dealer) could legally be bought without the FFL requirement.
Am I misinformed?
You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
You have the right to an attorney.
If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.
There, at least we have that covered. Now, what was the question?
It is worth a premium to a private individual to not have the papers on it. Never buy from a dealer if you can buy it privately face to face.
What does that mean? Does that mean that you think one can't buy a lower from a private buyer, not do the FFL thing...and it's STILL illegal?
If that's so, I need to re-calibrate my thinking....
Depends on your state. In this state, if I go to a dealer I have to jump thru the hoops with the paper work, if I can find a private individual who happens to have what I need, then it is simply between them and I. There is no obligation to let the Gestapo into my business when dealing privately.
And while we are at it, can any gunsmiths out there tell me how to make in a full auto?
//sarcasm off
I believe finishing an unfinished lower is a federal crime. You must apply for a serial number and wait for permission to proceed...iirc.
Just google it, ya dont have to go to a gunsmith...... :)
If they come for the guns, they have to get into the safe. Since I will be dead on the front porch, they will have to take the whole thing. Not too worried about that.
Okay...that fits with what I understand.
I’ve got a couple of folks down here in Texas who have some of the parts. I was just looking for a little advice on the best way to build one.
Didn’t know I would wind up on the “crazy side of the rope” for people on FR.
I would say be very careful to follow the laws. They take firearm laws very seriously and any violation would most likely result in a loss of your second amendment rights for life.
I would just end up screwing the whole thing up.
I am pretty good at controlled fire as it is. And I am too old to run away.
you can legally buy a lower from a private seller any time you want so long as both of you live in the same state. These people don’t know jack.
Damn right, and I would say that that is the opinion of about 200 million well armed patriots right now.
Scratch Colorado from my retirement list............
In Alabama, are you 18 with a state DL? your good for long guns... 21 for pistols.
Partner, if I were you, I would either look up the federal law and the laws for your area or head down to a gun dealer and have him walk you through the laws... you don’t want to screw this up.
As for a firearm choice... I love my Rock River... it wasn’t cheap, but I trust it.
Good luck with your shopping... I hope you like what you get...
Okay...
I need a little help here. (For clarity, I’m in Texas).
I understand that the lower is the part of the gun that needs to be “FFL-ed” if bought through a dealer.
I also understand that if I buy a pistol or a rifle or any other gun in a private sale, there is no requirement for any FFL involvement.
Can someone explain to me the difference between buying a pistol in a private sale and buying the lower receiver for an AR-15 in a private sale?
Thanks.
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