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Theodore Roosevelt
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Posted on 03/13/2010 6:52:19 PM PST by molybdenum

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To: Oshkalaboomboom

You are out of your mind.

Teddy Roosevelt was NOTHING like FDR, Eleanor Roosevelt OR the Kennedys.


21 posted on 03/13/2010 7:50:41 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: SoCalPol

Amen


22 posted on 03/13/2010 7:51:07 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: molybdenum

The problem is WE THE PEOPLE ARE the Government or should be.

Roosevelt campaigned against political corruption, police corruption, unsanitary conditions in the food industry and for things like child labor laws.

People who compare modern day “progressives” with the progressives of TR’s day simply have lost their sense of perspective.

Glenn Beck is a great guy, and right on many issues.
Teddy Roosevelt and preserving lands for public hunting, fishing, hiking, etc., are not two of them.


23 posted on 03/13/2010 7:54:29 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

My Great Great Grandfather was a Republican in politics in New York City at the Time TR was Gov. and admired TR very much.


24 posted on 03/13/2010 7:56:13 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Bokababe

Teddy Roosevelt was a Great American and a man’s man:
boxer, martial artist, zoologist, big game hunter, explorer, writer, scholar, military science expert, historian, linguist,politician, corruption fighter,rough rider, cowboy, lawman - you name it.

EVERYTHING America and Americans have always admired and respected.

We could use a man like Teddy Roosevelt today.


25 posted on 03/13/2010 7:57:24 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: SoCalPol

TR, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, Sarah Palin - all Great Americans cast in similar molds.


26 posted on 03/13/2010 7:58:45 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: SoCalPol

Whereas I like the Man Child, but disagree with him on much of his philosophy, I think that MC is well on his way to that place where all good Big L Libertarians eventually wind up-—Laughingstockville.

But, many people have go thru Laughingstockville first to get to Conservative City. Trashing the church should hasten the departure.

parsy, who spent a few years in Laughingstockville


27 posted on 03/13/2010 8:13:22 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: I still care

The best move you could make! Good for you.


28 posted on 03/13/2010 8:37:28 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: parsifal

Interesting comments as usual pars


29 posted on 03/13/2010 8:48:44 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: molybdenum
Let me think now, first Teddy, then FDR, then Johnson, then Clinton and finally Obama.

Nope, Teddy was no hero. He was the first Progressive Socialist President. Theodore Roosevelt was the exemplar of our current Moderate Republicans, the anathema to today's GOP Conservatives.

30 posted on 03/13/2010 9:02:43 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

I read a double-book biography of this man a few years ago, and just by his background, his life & works, he couldn’t have been the socialist some people think he was. He shouldn’t be put in the same category as FDR (his cousin), Johnson, Kennedys, or Klinton (!!).


31 posted on 03/13/2010 9:06:46 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: higgmeister
Oh, and 0bama! Shame on you!!

TR was worlds away from any of these presidents. And the world of the early 20th century was greatly different than today. He died nearly 100 years ago.

Woodrow Wilson, now, can be called the father of our present disarray.

32 posted on 03/13/2010 9:10:35 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: molybdenum
He shouldn’t be put in the same category as FDR (his cousin), Johnson, Kennedys, or Klinton (!!).

What part of The U. S. Constitution said that the Federal Government had any authority to attempt to protect citizens from themselves? Teddy was the first one to attempt to remake society in his image and in that sense he was the first to begin slicing the Salami.

33 posted on 03/13/2010 9:32:29 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: molybdenum
[ But the idea of the feds owning any land? We the People own the land. ]

Not true the federal gov't OWNS MUCH LAND..
You know, instead of the STATES owning their own land..

Even then, if you can be taxed on land you own...
You are merely RENTING it from the gov't..

34 posted on 03/13/2010 9:32:32 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
[ But it was US Grant who made the first National Park, at Yellowstone. ]

National Parks(federal parks) are obscene.. State Parks may not be..

35 posted on 03/13/2010 9:34:41 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: ZULU
[ If it weren’t for the National Park System, most of our joint national heritage in game animals, fishing lands and open spaces would have disappeared long ago. ]

Not true.. or true in only some places.. where the people of a certain State don't care about natural things.. Would not be true in Alaska..

Its true some States have more stupid people..

36 posted on 03/13/2010 9:38:23 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

Technically that’s true. But in the case of national parks, they needed to be cared for and protected; each state could have done this, however. I don’t think he or anyone else could have envisioned how the government would overreach in the future. The State of Nevada is an example of Fed land, almost the entire state.


37 posted on 03/13/2010 9:43:46 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: Kirkwood

Try telling that to Glenn Beck. He thinks he knows history after just discovering the concept of history about 18 months ago.


38 posted on 03/13/2010 9:44:26 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: molybdenum

Its possible to admire TR as a human being, while complaining about the enormous land-holdings in federal hands.

I would like to see most BLM lands privatized, and most parks and national forests handed back to the states. Aside from specific bases and installations, the feds should not be in the business of owning large swaths of land.

There is very little federal land in Texas, and somehow they manage to find places to hunt there. With almost no federal land, there are still plenty of open spaces. They just happen to be private. You have to talk to the landowner if you want to go in there.


39 posted on 03/13/2010 9:57:47 PM PST by marron
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To: higgmeister

I think he would have been appalled at his cousin FDR in the 30s. I’ll tell you what, the bio is in the library and I’ll go thru it again to see where he did the things you accuse him of. Here’s another excerpt from the article:

Roosevelt enlarged the presidency because he made it a “bully pulpit” for national uplift and inspiration. He preached as much as he politicked. He felt responsible for the well-being and morals of the whole country. He set an example of how a large, strenuous life could be led, and he invited others to renew their energies and apply them to public causes. TR strongly endorsed motherhood and criticized women who had careers while neglecting motherhood [2].

In the contest beteen Conservation and environmentalism, Roosevelt supported the conservation and optimum use of natural resources, and opposed the environmentalists of the day, such as John Muir. (Conservapedia)


40 posted on 03/13/2010 9:58:34 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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