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Resisting ObamaCare, Gandhi Style
Forbes ^ | 03.24.10, 12:01 AM EDT | Shikha Dalmia

Posted on 03/24/2010 11:43:10 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Good

President Barack Obama came into office promising hope and change. But he might get more change than he hoped for. By foisting ObamaCare on a deeply unwilling country he might have set the stage for the largest civil disobedience movement since the civil rights era, which, if it plays its cards right, could undo his legislation and his legacy. . . .

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TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhofascism; bhohealthcare; bhotyranny; democrats; donttreadonme; gandhi; healthcare; obama; obamacare; obamatruthfile; resist; socialisthealthcare; teaparty; tyranny
"By some estimates, Uncle Sam will need to hire an additional 17,000 IRS agents or so just to enforce the coverage mandate. But even if a few million Americans simultaneously refuse to abide by it, they could easily overwhelm the system. Self-rule or swaraj, Gandhi said, requires a collective understanding of the immense capacity of citizens to ‘regulate and control’ the coercive apparatus of the state through mass nonviolent resistance" - http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/

Lets Do It!

1 posted on 03/24/2010 11:43:10 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Good
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To: Freedom_Is_Good

Conservatives should apply for these jobs and slow roll the enforcement...


2 posted on 03/24/2010 11:53:01 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: Freedom_Is_Good

“Conservatives should apply for these jobs and slow roll the enforcement...”

I’ll apply for a job...at the IRs...yeah ..computer programmer...that’s the ticket!!!!What? You mean the ARE NOT OURS?!!!


3 posted on 03/24/2010 11:56:06 AM PDT by mo
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To: mo

You mean the computers.ARE NOT OURS?!!!aarrgh..


4 posted on 03/24/2010 11:57:12 AM PDT by mo
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To: Freedom_Is_Good
Before Ghandi used swaraj to undermine British rule in India Americans had done the same before the Revolutionary War began.

Everyone should get and read the book The First American Revolution - Before Concord and Lexington by Ray Raphael. It is a manual of how the patriots of Massachusetts successfully seized control from the British, by civil and not-so-civil disobedience, before the Shot Heard 'Round the World.

5 posted on 03/24/2010 11:58:33 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Part II?

6 posted on 03/24/2010 12:13:12 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Freedom_Is_Good

Does obamacare walk all over our civil rights?

(From Cornell University Law School)

http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/Civil_rights

A civil right is an enforceable right or privilege, which if interfered with by another gives rise to an action for injury. Examples of civil rights are freedom of speech, press, and assembly; the right to vote; freedom from involuntary servitude; and the right to equality in public places. Discrimination occurs when the civil rights of an individual are denied or interfered with because of their membership in a particular group or class. Statutes have been enacted to prevent discrimination based on a person’s race, sex, religion, age, previous condition of servitude, physical limitation, national origin, and in some instances sexual preference.

The most important expansion of civil rights in the United States was the enactment of the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments. The Thirteenth Amendment abolished slavery throughout the United States. See U.S. Const. amend. XIII. In response to the 13th Amendment, various states enacted “black codes” which were intended to limit the civil rights of the newly free slaves. In 1868 the 14th Amendment was passed to counter the “black codes” and ensure that no state “shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of the citizens of the United States... [or] deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, [or] deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” See U.S. Const. amend. XIV. Congress was also given the power by section five of the Fourteenth Amendment to pass any laws needed for its enforcement.

During the “reconstruction era” that followed, Congress enacted numerous civil rights statutes. Many of these statutes are still in force today and protect individuals from discrimination and from the deprivation of their civil rights. Section 1981 of Title 42 (Equal Rights Under the Law) protects individuals from discrimination based on race in making and enforcing contracts, participating in lawsuits, and giving evidence. See 42 U.S.C. § 1981. Other statutes, derived from acts of the reconstruction era, that protect against discrimination include: Civil Action For Deprivation of Rights (See 42 U.S.C. § 1983) Conspiracies to Interfere With Civil Rights (See 42 U.S.C. § 1985); Conspiracy Against Rights of Citizens (See 18 U.S.C. § 241); Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law, (See 18 U.S.C. § 242); The Jurisdictional Statue for Civil Rights Cases (See 28 U.S.C. § 1443); Peonage Abolished (See 42 U.S.C. § 1994).

The most prominent civil rights legislation since reconstruction is the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Decisions of the Supreme Court at the time limited Congressional enforcement of the 14th Amendment to state action. (Since 1964 the Supreme Court has expanded the reach of the 14th Amendment in some situations to individuals discriminating on their own). Therefore, in order to reach the actions of individuals, Congress, using its power to regulate interstate commerce, enacted the Civil Rights Act of 1964 under Title 42, Public Health and Welfare, Chapter 21, Civil Rights, of the United States Code. Discrimination based on “race, color, religion, or national origin” in public establishments that had a connection to interstate commerce or that was supported by the state is prohibited. See 42 U.S.C. § 2000a. Public establishments include places of public accommodation (e.g., hotels, motels, trailer parks), restaurants, gas stations, bars, taverns, and places of entertainment in general. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and subsequent legislation also declared a strong legislative policy against discrimination in public schools and colleges which aided in desegregation. Title VI of the Civil Rights Act prohibits discrimination in federally funded programs. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits employment discrimination where the employer is engaged in interstate commerce. Congress has passed numerous other laws dealing with employment discrimination. See Employment Discrimination.

The judiciary, most notably the Supreme Court, plays a crucial role in interpreting the extent of the civil rights. A single Supreme Court ruling can change the very nature of a right throughout the entire country. Supreme Court decisions can also affect the manner in which Congress enacts civil rights legislation, as occurred with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The federal courts were/are crucial in mandating and supervising school desegregation programs and other programs established to rectify state or local discrimination.

State constitutions, statutes and municipal ordinances provide further protection of civil rights. See, e.g., New York’s Civil Rights Law.

The existence of civil rights and liberties are recognized internationally by numerous agreements and declarations. Often these rights are included in agreements in which nations pledge themselves to the general protection of Human Rights. The United States has recently adhered to the most notable international agreement on civil rights: The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.


7 posted on 03/24/2010 12:39:10 PM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro-Choice = Pro-Death........ Pro-Life = Pro-LIFE!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Good
It's a nice thought, but it just won't happen. Too many Americans are weak-minded, addicted to luxury, feminized, and cowards to boot.

Just like with every other socialist program implemented in our history, even if you do find the rare American who actually has the guts to resist, it will be his craven children and grandchildren who acquiesce to the system in order to be considered "normal."

8 posted on 03/24/2010 1:42:41 PM PDT by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: Freedom_Is_Good

Gandhi’s non-violence works when the majority of oppressors know that the status quo is flawed and have the moral character to correct it. Eventually, the Brits came to understand that their imperial control of India was flawed. Americans knew that government-enforced racial segregration and deprivation of civil rights was flawed. In both cases, majorities had the moral sensibility to change the status quo.

This is not the case with the Left and health care reform, or any of its agenda. The Left does not recognize any flaw in their health care reform other than that which falls short of the ideals of socialism. Their very definition of “morality” is that which advances the ideal of the socialist state. Non-violent protest against the leftist agenda will be viewed as the last reactionary gasps of diseased social animals. The Left will not view non-violent protest with anything but contempt and loathing.

That’s why they call you teabaggers now. If patriotic non-violent protest escalates, the response may be more like General Reginald Dyer’s response to Indian civil disobedience in Amritsar. That was about five years after Gandhi returned to India and about thirty years before Indian independence by the way.


9 posted on 03/24/2010 3:00:53 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Freedom_Is_Good

Thanks for posting this. Much food for thought.


10 posted on 03/25/2010 2:15:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Do you mean now?" ---Yogi Berra, when asked "What time is it?" ---)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Thanks for posting the info. I just bought a copy.


11 posted on 03/25/2010 2:24:44 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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