Posted on 03/31/2010 11:41:37 AM PDT by Skunkworx
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Dozens of people who parked at the University of Central Florida for an event say they were set up after their cars were towed. They said event parking signs directed them to a lot, but more than 50 cars in that lot were towed. People said those signs and their cars were gone when they got back.
A viewer contacted WFTV after his car was towed Saturday, along with 52 others. All of them were in line to recover their cars at an impound lot and all of them attended the Glenn Beck show at UCF.
The people parked in a Kappa Sigma lot. Mike Vedder thinks they were set up. He doesn't know if it was a dislike of the conservative commentator or money.
“Maybe the have a deal with the tow truck company or maybe they got kickbacks under the table," Vedder said.
They all said an event parking sign clearly directed them into the lot. Students at the fraternity wouldn't comment, but WFTV caught up with the owner of Orange County Towing and Recovery, Ronald Hulbert.
"I have a lot at stake, a lot invested. I'm not going to lose it over a $125 tow, times 53, times 53, it was a good day," Ronald Hulbert said.
Hulbert admits he's never towed that many cars in one day before; he said it took him at least eight hours to tow all the cars. Each driver had to pay cash, netting him more than $6,600.
Vedder also had to pay $25 for a cab ride to the tow company.
UCF said, out of 30 recent events, it hasn’t had a problem, but Vedder said this was his last at that arena.
“I won’t come to anymore. I'm going to tell everyone else it's not a place I want to be," he said.
WFTV was told to call Paul Gamble with Kappa Sigma, but he did not return any phone calls.
In many jurisdictions that sign would be a problem. Typically the sign would have to include the name of the towing service, and there may be a whole bunch of other state and local regulations governing who may be towed and when.
The whole thing sound fishy.
Five signs in a fair sized lot — would not be enough, the rule around here is roughly one sign per three spaces.
I think that this guy got the zot for nothing.
He wasn’t saying that he was offended, but just offering his opinion, which appears to be accurate.
You may have noticed that he is always on the side of the idiots; not just on this thread.
I'm not an attorney, but in cases such as this, I will always side with the property owner since I believer in Property Rights.
Moreover, I am not a believer in the nanny state courts stepping in to protect those who would fail to read no parking signs and trespass on private property.
And if cars had been towed from this same lot while their owners were attending an Obama rally, I would have the very same view on this matter. I doubt many others here would.
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UCF campus, the Kappa Sigma fraternity has been suspended for hazing at a fraternity party pillow fight and for writing on a member with markers while he slept.
Students having fun on campus Friday night said they’re fed up by what appears to be UCF’s double-discipline standard.
UCF representatives said they had video proof of the hazing at Kappa Sigma, but not in Douarin’s death.
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October 3,2008
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — Two University of Central Florida fraternities are accused of hazing, one for hitting a member with a pillow and the other accused of punching a pledge in the chest. That pledge mysteriously died from heart trouble hours later.
The university punished the first frat for the pillow fight, but refuses to fully investigate the pledge’s death. Both complaints came in anonymously.
The first was an e-mail tip accusing UCF’s Kappa Sigma fraternity of drawing on a sleeping frat member with markers and hitting him with a pillow. The second was a Crimeline call to UCF police blaming hazing for the death of student Mcandy Douarin at the hands of Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity.
Against the victim’s requests, UCF’s Office of Student Conduct investigated the pillow fight and suspended that frat. But in the other case, despite the family’s requests, UCF refuses to investigate the death.
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David Marren, 21, Kappa Sigma fraternity treasurer and UCF junior majoring in economics
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This appears to be a situation where people were deliberately deceived, so their cars would be towed. They should seek justice and compensation through the courts from those who deceived them. Property rights aren’t, and shouldn’t, be an issue.
If the property owner had the cars towed, but wasn’t involved in posting the signs, then he/she’s not at fault and of course shouldn’t pay. The persons who posted or assisted in the posting of signs are at fault.
Looks to me like Jim could sue them for defamation for some of the remarks at that link accusing him of being a pedophile. That is way over the line. I pinged him on this to let him know.
I agree.
What it appears to be and what one can prove it to be may be two different things. However, we do know that the parking lot had “No Parking” signs posted and that those who parked there ignored those signs.
I’ll call the other party when the suit is filed and offer your service.
My view is consistent in that I will side with the owner of the private property and I don’t care if it is Glenn Beck fans or Obama Clones who are illegally parking in the private parking lot which was clearly marked with “No Parking” signs.
The issue was whether there were signs directing them to park there for free and whether the signs were later removed as part of a “prank”.
Question: Was the Fraternity given a kick-back for the towing fees?
Question: It is just my hunch, but those Frat Boys looked guilty as sin.
Please contact Glenn Beck; ask him to underwrite the legal investigation of this problem. Ask that his listeners contribute to a fund. Someone needs to be confronted with a lawsuit and judgment.
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