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How the Media Lied about Obama’s Birth Records
AIM ^ | April 16, 2010 | Margaret Calhoun Hemenway

Posted on 04/17/2010 1:25:22 PM PDT by opentalk

During the 2008 Presidential campaign, "mainstream" media confused the public over whether Obama ever released any real proof of his claim to being born in Hawaii. The confusion continues. Jonathan Alter, senior editor at Newsweek magazine, told MSNBC's Keith Olbermann on February 20, 2009 that "The Obama campaign actually posted his birth certificate from a Hawaii hospital online."

But Alter lied, since "the Obama campaign" never "actually posted his birth certificate from a Hawaii hospital online." Remarkably, no hospital in Hawaii yet lays definitive claim to be the birthplace of the sitting President.

.. On the FactCheck.org website, the claim is made that "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate." They only saw and touched the COLB. So FactCheck.org lied about this as well.

Why would Factcheck.org tell so obvious a lie and endanger the site's reputation? In August 21, 2008, when questions about the COLB began to reach critical mass and threatened to enter the public discourse, the mostly pro-Obama TV and newspaper/magazine media needed cover for their collective decision to ignore questions about whether Obama met qualifications for the Presidency set forth in Article II Section I of the Constitution. .. FactCheck.org helped stifle the birth certificate debate.

Under Section 57 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii (in effect in 1961), a mailed-in form (without mention of a hospital, doctor, or midwife) signed by only one of Obama's parents (who could have been out of the country or whose signature could have been forged by a grandparent) or grandparents, would be enough to set up a birth record at the Department of Vital Statistics. This meager birth record would then automatically generate newspaper announcements, and also, a computer-generated COLB in 2008.

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1 posted on 04/17/2010 1:25:22 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

It’s all smoke, mirrors and lies with this administration, just like the trial lawyers who support it. Birds of a feather...


2 posted on 04/17/2010 1:29:10 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: opentalk

That’s all well and good, preaching to the choir and all but it needs to be published in the NYT or reported on at CNN. Not that they would headline with it so whatever.


3 posted on 04/17/2010 1:33:01 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: opentalk
Another interesting fact is that Anne Dunham's marriage to Barack Obama Sr was not valid as he was still married to a wife in Kenya.

In essence, "commander zero" was born a bastard child to a woman who did not meet the qualifications to pass American citizenship to him.

4 posted on 04/17/2010 1:38:14 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: bgill

The LSM won’t touch this until critical mass has been achieved.


5 posted on 04/17/2010 1:39:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: bgill
This article is about how MSM deceived the public. They were part of it.
6 posted on 04/17/2010 1:40:32 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Sooner or later, this is all going to blow up, and heads are going to roll. One possibility is the total collapse of the media as a institution, as well as dozens of government workers and possibly agencies coming under fire.


7 posted on 04/17/2010 1:44:51 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Obamunism: You have two cows. The regime redistributes them and shoots you dead)
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To: Canedawg

No kidding. This website is permeated with obamanista drones who attack those of us who see right through obama’s lies and bullsh!t.

That’s okay. Those of us who see him as a neo-fascist thug from kenya know the score.


8 posted on 04/17/2010 1:44:59 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: pissant; ExTexasRedhead; Sparko; trlambsr; True Republican Patriot; 3IDVET; STARWISE; Lumper20; ...
PING!!
9 posted on 04/17/2010 1:46:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: bgill
MSM is becoming more obsolete. Rush and other conservative radio programs have been using more articles from other alternate sources.

Here is a current title on Drudge --Illinois Mayor Expresses Doubts About Obama’s Citizenship...

10 posted on 04/17/2010 1:48:45 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: onyx; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

~~Ping!

~~~~~~~~~

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Both Steve and I will appear when oral argument is scheduled.

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11 posted on 04/17/2010 1:59:59 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: opentalk

need to start blasting libs on these shows with one simple question. What hospital was Obama born in? They have said so far it has been two different ones. So which is it? Surely they can answer that question right? Or maybe, what doctor delivered Obama?


12 posted on 04/17/2010 2:00:17 PM PDT by Lachisula
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To: Lachisula

It is clear. Obama was born in Shang-Gri-La.


13 posted on 04/17/2010 2:08:32 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: Lachisula

need to start blasting libs on these shows with one simple question. What hospital was Obama born in? They have said so far it has been two different ones. So which is it? Surely they can answer that question right? Or maybe, what doctor delivered Obama?


I’m still looking for where in the U.S. Constitution it says that a president has to be born in a hospital? If Obama was born on Waikiki Beach and if he was delivered by a hippie midwife, he’d still be born in the USA.

You probably won’t accept the following statement, but everyone of the 70-some judges and justices who have reviewed the Obama eligibility issue thus far have accepted it: “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf

Dr. Fukino works for Linda Lingle, the Republican Governor of Hawaii and that statement was reviewed before release by the office of Mark L. Bennett, the Republican Attorney General of Hawaii. Attorney General Bennett has the statuatory power to subpoena Obama’s original birth certificate if he wanted to or needed to.


14 posted on 04/17/2010 2:15:03 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: opentalk
Some in the media get it!
15 posted on 04/17/2010 2:15:09 PM PDT by TPOOH (I wish I could have been Jerry Reed.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

On Drudge, there is a short video of a mayor in Ill. saying he doens’t think BO is an American. The comments are great. I think many people have doubts. People want to know why his records are not released. This is not going to go away.


16 posted on 04/17/2010 2:15:27 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: opentalk

obama is delusional and may believe he is, or wants a particular group of muslims to believe that he is the twelfth imam. Voila! The mysterious no show birth certificate because he so wants to be the “savior” of the world:

(from Wikipedia)

According to Shia doctrine, he (the twelfth imam)has been living in The Occultation since 872, and will continue as long as God wills it.[41]

OR

His birth certificate does not name him BHO Jr. and he is presenting himself as a fictional character named Barack Hussein Obama. When did he legally become that person? He was adopted and his name is Barry Soetoro.

OR

The birth certificate does name him BHO Jr., and he knows darn well that he is disqualified to be President of the United States.

OR

His birth certificate lists him as being “white”. Many babies born of African descent do appear white at birth. After all, he is really a mulatto, so chances are at birth he did appear white. He absolutely HATES that part of himself.

Whatever the case, obama’s got the media wrapped around his little finger. He accomplishes the fundamental transformation of the United States of America (and the world) that they want, and the media feeds his delusion of who he wants to believe he is. It’s a symbiotic relationship and it’s sick.


17 posted on 04/17/2010 2:26:21 PM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: opentalk

For certain Obamao is hiding something. Any responsible media would be all over it.


18 posted on 04/17/2010 2:26:46 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Prole

They attack and call us crazy, but not one of them can answer the essential question which is WHY are all the records hidden?


19 posted on 04/17/2010 2:43:36 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: TigersEye
Exactly, only when it comes to the point of potentially jeopardizing sponsor loss will the DBM even pretend that they were fooled and never knew a thing. It's all BS and we were and are being played by some big time thugs.
20 posted on 04/17/2010 2:51:00 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This is all going to blow up and heads are going to roll

Not likely the media will always blame their errors/screw ups on someone else,they are good at that,just like the rats are.

Besides from the DBM standpoint their only guilt is getting caught,they are marxist/socialists just like the adm. and support most of what they do.

21 posted on 04/17/2010 2:54:57 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: jamese777
Sorry 777 but we have been over an over Fukinos response here a zillion times and he makes no claims of truth whatsoever which is very strange at best.
22 posted on 04/17/2010 2:58:31 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: screaminsunshine
BHO was born at Shambala General Hospital near Honolulu Hawaii. FYI Shambala General only allows native Hawaiians to be born there with no exceptions. Within days of his birth Shambala General Hospital was hit by a freak wave that cleared out the maternity ward, killing all the staff and wiping out the master records. A true miracle.
23 posted on 04/17/2010 3:01:54 PM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: Prole
... those of us who see right through obama’s lies and bullsh!t.
That’s okay. Those of us who see him as a neo-fascist thug from kenya know the score.


It's pretty easy to figure out and conect the dots, if you have a discerning mind. I know those of us who have figured it out are surprised that more- most, people don't get it.

"Transparent" has more than one meaning. In this case, it does NOT mean open government; it means their actual motives are transparent if you watch what they do and understand what they are really saying.
24 posted on 04/17/2010 3:03:36 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: opentalk

If Obama was a stand up cool dude; he would have produced the original already. But this doesn’t appear to be the case. Instead Obama appears to be a weak coward with nothing going for him. I suspect that is the real story of his life. People who have to hide things and lie about their lives are the real losers.


25 posted on 04/17/2010 3:19:09 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: opentalk

I am a birther....


26 posted on 04/17/2010 3:57:17 PM PDT by y6162
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To: freekitty
well said , the article also states

If Obama continues to refuse to release his original birth certificate, a reasonable person might assume he was not born in a Hawaiian hospital or at home with assistance of a doctor or midwife.

This is especially true because if Obama was born in a foreign land, his family had a compelling reason to lie about it, given the prestige and benefits of American citizenship.

If at birth, Obama was ineligible for American citizenship of any kind, he cannot be "natural-born." If a person is not at the time of his birth an American citizen, he cannot be a natural-born citizen and is ineligible for the Presidency.

27 posted on 04/17/2010 3:57:21 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Here is something I like to post from time to time:
 
 
Let them claim there is no long form.
 
1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  That means there is a long form.
 
2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?
 
3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 
 
Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?
 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

  • His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
  •  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
  • The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
  • The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
  • More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

  • His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
  • The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
  • Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 
 
 

28 posted on 04/17/2010 4:07:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: jamese777; All
I’m still looking for where in the U.S. Constitution it says that a president has to be born in a hospital? If Obama was born on Waikiki Beach and if he was delivered by a hippie midwife, he’d still be born in the USA.

It doesn't and you ought to know it. The vital thing is Obama's enablers have all said he was born in either of two Hawaii hospitals, but haven't really serttled on which. None ofo them has contended he was born outside of a birthing center. Here, FTA, is why his Certificate of LIve Birth, that probably claims he was born outside of a birthing center, is so important:

Under Section 57 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii (in effect in 1961), a mailed-in form (without mention of a hospital, doctor, or midwife) signed by only one of Obama's parents (who could have been out of the country or whose signature could have been forged by a grandparent) or grandparents, would be enough to set up a birth record at the Department of Vital Statistics. This meager birth record would then automatically generate newspaper announcements, and also, a computer-generated COLB in 2008.

This is the precise point neither you, nor any other Obama enabler, has ever been able to address. All we get is obfuscation, such as that in your post.

29 posted on 04/17/2010 4:27:00 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: jamese777; All
I’m still looking for where in the U.S. Constitution it says that a president has to be born in a hospital? If Obama was born on Waikiki Beach and if he was delivered by a hippie midwife, he’d still be born in the USA.

It doesn't and you ought to know it. The vital thing is Obama's enablers have all said he was born in either of two Hawaii hospitals, but haven't really serttled on which. None ofo them has contended he was born outside of a birthing center. Here, FTA, is why his Certificate of LIve Birth, that probably claims he was born outside of a birthing center, is so important:

Under Section 57 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii (in effect in 1961), a mailed-in form (without mention of a hospital, doctor, or midwife) signed by only one of Obama's parents (who could have been out of the country or whose signature could have been forged by a grandparent) or grandparents, would be enough to set up a birth record at the Department of Vital Statistics. This meager birth record would then automatically generate newspaper announcements, and also, a computer-generated COLB in 2008.

This is the precise point neither you, nor any other Obama enabler, has ever been able to address. All we get is obfuscation, such as that in your post.

30 posted on 04/17/2010 4:31:53 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

I admire your persistence and hope that someday SOON we will get to the bottom of the birth certificate issue.

What other US President never rvealed his true birth stats; his true college records; or his true citizenship before?

Answer: NONE

Obama is a Pretender to the Throne.


31 posted on 04/17/2010 4:35:49 PM PDT by Palladin (Regroup, Resist, Reload, Repeat!)
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To: screaminsunshine

art II section 1 requires natural born which 17th century America meant both parents citizens at time of child’s birth.


32 posted on 04/17/2010 4:36:14 PM PDT by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: libstripper
This is the precise point neither you, nor any other Obama enabler, has ever been able to address. All we get is obfuscation, such as that in your post.

It is little Jamieeee777's one mission in life.

33 posted on 04/17/2010 4:38:29 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: opentalk
Rush and other conservative radio programs have been using more articles from other alternate sources.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Rush is part of the cover up! How much time did he spend on Obama’s eligibility? Huh? Less than 5 minutes? Rush gave it just enough time so that if and when it does hit critical mass, Rush can say, “Hey! I did joke about it for 2 minutes!”

I AM DISGUSTED WITH RUSH!!

He is one of two things: A phony or a coward!

If Rush is a phony, when tyranny comes he will sell his talents to the oligarchy. He will eagerly spit shine the jack boot propaganda machine crushing our necks.

If Rush is merely a coward, then he is forgetting or ignoring the following:

** The fascist oligarchy will throw him off the air anyway.
** The fascist oligarchy will carry out their treats against him and his family anyway.
** The fascist oligarchy will take all his money anyway.
** The fascist oligarchy will reveal his deepest darkest secrets anyway.

Rush, in the way he handled Obama’s eligibility, has UTTERLY DESTROYED his brand name for honesty and integrity. I will never trust this slug slime again!

34 posted on 04/17/2010 4:45:18 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: jamese777
Dr. Fukino doesn't have the authority to determine whether obama is a natural born citizen.

Anne Dunham's marriage to Barack Hussein Obama was invalid as he was still married to his wife in Kenya.

Anne Dunham's age did not qualify her to pass American citizenship to her son as per Hawaii law at that time.

35 posted on 04/17/2010 4:46:32 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: opentalk
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Something tells me that no matter where Obaam was born — he was either illegitimate or there are doubts as to the paternity.
36 posted on 04/17/2010 4:48:58 PM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: wintertime

Perhaps Rush just believes it best not to associate with kooks who use phrases like “fascist oligarchy” and “jack booted propaganda machines.” Just maybe.


37 posted on 04/17/2010 4:49:17 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: Vendome
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Obaam: "No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part..."

Of course it was intentional. He'd gotten what he wanted from that young bimbo and he was headed out the door. You, Barry, were an unfortunate accident.

38 posted on 04/17/2010 4:55:07 PM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: wintertime
you're right, he has not addressed the eligibility issue directly, but he was not selling the COLB story with the MSM. He did a whole segment on how the Obama mask will come off like Tiger Woods and we will know the truth. He has started calling administration the Obama Regime .
39 posted on 04/17/2010 4:56:45 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Touch Not the Cat

And he accidentally stumbled upon his birth certificate...

Weird coincidence.


40 posted on 04/17/2010 4:59:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: STARWISE

save


41 posted on 04/17/2010 5:29:56 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: jamese777
I’m still looking for where in the U.S. Constitution it says that a president has to be born in a hospital?

Good deflection. This detail isn't queried because of a Constitutional requirement, but out of commons sense, specifically on the basis of how vital records are certified. A hospital birth would allow for the signature of a reputable witness. Of course, I'm sure you know this already, which is why you chose a lame deflection. You know that Obama has no reputable witnesses to his birth ... at least not in the United States.

42 posted on 04/17/2010 5:46:12 PM PDT by edge919
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To: LucyT; rxsid; BP2

ping


43 posted on 04/17/2010 6:13:10 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: edge919

Good deflection. This detail isn’t queried because of a Constitutional requirement, but out of commons sense, specifically on the basis of how vital records are certified. A hospital birth would allow for the signature of a reputable witness. Of course, I’m sure you know this already, which is why you chose a lame deflection. You know that Obama has no reputable witnesses to his birth ... at least not in the United States.


Good irrelevancies.

All Obama needs and has ever needed is an official document from the state of Hawaii which states that he is over 35 years of age and that he was born in the US. He has that document and its been verified by the state of Hawaii.
A short form Hawaii Certification of Live Birth is good enough to get a US Passport and its good enough to be handed the nuclear football with the launch codes to every US nuclear missile in the US arsenal when a person is sworn in as president.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health VERIFYING Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”


44 posted on 04/17/2010 7:50:43 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
All Obama needs and has ever needed is an official document from the state of Hawaii which states that he is over 35 years of age and that he was born in the US.

It's too bad he hasn't shown that he has one.

He has that document and its been verified by the state of Hawaii.

No, the alleged document he has shown has never been verified by the state.

A short form Hawaii Certification of Live Birth is good enough to get a US Passport and its good enough to be handed the nuclear football with the launch codes to every US nuclear missile in the US arsenal when a person is sworn in as president.

A legitimate short form might be good enough for those things. Obama's is not. Start dealing with known truths and not wishful thinking or blind faith.

45 posted on 04/17/2010 7:57:48 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

It’s too bad he hasn’t shown that he has one.

No, the alleged document he has shown has never been verified by the state.

A legitimate short form might be good enough for those things. Obama’s is not. Start dealing with known truths and not wishful thinking or blind faith.


Just because Dr. Fukino’s verification statement isn’t good enough for you doesn’t mean that it isn’t good enough for the courts that have looked at this issue and that it hasn’t been good enough for 535 members of Congress since not one of them has joined in any Obama eligibility lawsuit and not one single member of Congress has filed an amicus brief in support of any of the eligibility lawsuits.


46 posted on 04/17/2010 8:07:14 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

jamese777 = curiosity = Non-Sequitur = BO suck butt (courtesy ping not warranted)


47 posted on 04/17/2010 9:19:45 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Eagles6
Eagles6 writes:

“Anne Dunham’s age did not qualify her to pass American citizenship to her son as per Hawaii law at that time.”

Sorry, that's not correct.

If Obama’s teenage mom gave birth in a foreign country and the father was not a USA citizen, then Obama was not a USA citizen at birth.

That was federal law in 1961, not Hawaii law.

Like you, I want to see Obama’s Long Form BC and full disclosure on every other record in his life.

However, the anti-Birthers will rip you to pieces for a mistake like that.

Thanks for fighting on this issue - your heart is in the right place, even if one of your facts is not.

48 posted on 04/17/2010 9:25:05 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: spookie

Now we see why they put it in there.


49 posted on 04/17/2010 10:05:15 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: jamese777
Jamese777 makes a valid point about Obama’s COLB (aka, Short Form BC) allowing him to get a passport.

In 1994 I applied for a USA passport.

The State Department would not accept a xerox of my own copy of my Long Form BC.

So, I contacted the Birth Records Department in Illinois.

Incredibly, Illinois sent me a COLB that had substantially less information on it than the Hawaii COLB.

I couldn't believe my Illinois COLB would be accepted.

But, four weeks later my USA passport arrived.

I think it's a mistake to argue legal points with jamese777.

He has the mind of a skilled defense attorney.

He rarely argues what is ethical, just what is legal or not legal.

It is time for Conservatives to adapt.

We need to demand “Full Disclosure” of every document pertaining to Obama’s life.

And, just as important, we need to demand “Full Disclosure” from our own presidential candidates.

There is no plausible defense against “Full Disclosure.”

If a candidate resists, then a thousand signs will greet him at every stop - “What Are You Hiding!”

50 posted on 04/17/2010 10:13:42 PM PDT by zeestephen
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