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How Russians Staged Polish "Regime Change" (UPDATED)
Henry Makow ^ | April 22, 2010 | Henry Makow

Posted on 05/02/2010 11:47:50 PM PDT by george76

Here is what I believed happened. They had to rig the time 15 minutes later as 'official' to coincide with the distance and the flight time from Warsaw because the ghost plane had come in a bit too early - something like that! In fact, the bogus story of the plane circling around the airport several times amounted to additional time, but was proven false. I also believed this plane left Warsaw on time, as they were on a schedule for a very important event.

Read this one carefully because it contains so many of the points which I have previous made. The plane which was circling the airport appears to have been seeding the area as Russia has indeed been involved with weather technology, so a temporary fog was created. The cockpit was intact and it is utter nonsense to believe they were burned, as the boys saw the approach and one wing hit a tree, and the other wing got sliced by a hydro wire. Thus, all the fuel was gone before the belly flop landing took place which meant virtually no fire. It was a rare plane crash, and there should have been survivors but no bodies to be seen out of 96 passengers - sure and it is time once again to believe in the tooth fairy.

Now, remember that Putin was there about a week before, and his comrades in the tower were given orders to fudge a landing and cause an intentional crash for the patsies flying in on a very fixed schedule; plan a clean up team to make things look good; kill anyone in sight; and the black boxes would be fixed to say this or that; propaganda would abound to confuse; and you will all be rewarded.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Outdoors; Travel
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; communism; henrymakow; kgb; poland; polishregimechange; putin; russia; russians; skinheadsonfr; sovietunion
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1 posted on 05/02/2010 11:47:50 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

This is an example of why I like to come here late at night the bats are out in force...


2 posted on 05/03/2010 12:00:40 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe
This is an example of why I like to come here late at night the bats are out in force...

dunno, their might be somthing to it but my question would be (and I know I havent been following poutie-tootie) what the heck is the motivation to off the entire plane load? There are really easy ways to be more "specific."

3 posted on 05/03/2010 12:18:57 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: george76

Polish plane crash site in 3D, if it helps...
4 posted on 05/03/2010 12:43:44 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (It Matters Not What You Fight But What You Fight For.)
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To: TLI
There are really easy ways to be more "specific."

Not if you want a complex specific result. The Russians are definitely complex enigmas. One such complex scenario is plausible. They actually wanted there to be enough circumstantial evidence that pointed to foul play. So they did not worry about covering all their tracks. Eventually that circumstantial evidence will cause friction between Poland and Russia. Similar to the friction currently developing between North Korea and South Korea over the recent loss of a ship due to what was originally considered an accident. Russia would be gravely concerned at the accusations circulating within Poland. Russia was just an innocent bystander for a tragic accident. However, considering the dangerous accusations from Poland, Russia will have to assume that Poland plans on utilizing this tragic accident to invade Russia again. After all that was the common excuse for quite a few aggressive attacks that occurred during the previous couple of World Wars. And of course wiping out all the hard line opposition that could rally Poland to defending itself is also a bonus.

Seems like standard war game play in Europe. Nothing new here.

5 posted on 05/03/2010 1:23:13 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: TLI
"what the heck is the motivation to off the entire plane load? "

Ron Brown's entire plane went down.

yitbos

6 posted on 05/03/2010 1:23:14 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: george76
stupid Russians ....they went into all the trouble of using weather creation machines and sweep teams, changing black boxes and shifting the runway, yet the truth still came out! They should have asked Rove for use of his hurricane machine (veeeeery effective), or better yet use the Haarp installation to open a parallel dimension and have a pterodactyl fly into an engine and cause the crash. Or even better ....kidnap the pilots and have mind controlled identical clones take the wheel!

Since theories are being given, mine are as good as any.

On a serious note, it is interesting how theories evolve. It went from 'the darn Ruskies took out the lights' to 'the darn ruskies gave wrong glide coordinates' to now 'the darn ruskies used a weather generator technique and wet teams.' Maybe by next week they will be opening up those parallel dimensions I was talking about!

7 posted on 05/03/2010 1:35:27 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: justa-hairyape

No matter which way you slice it, if you are the president of Poland and you’re dumb enough to get anywhere near Russia (except for inspecting tank traps along on the border) then you get what’s coming. It’s that simple!


8 posted on 05/03/2010 1:36:29 AM PDT by gr8eman (Everybody is a rocket scientist...until launch day!)
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To: gr8eman

They risked their lives for peace. A peace which we now know cannot occur.


9 posted on 05/03/2010 1:39:58 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: george76

Total BS, confirmed by the early statements about the crash mechanics (lost all fuel because it hit this and that...). A confabulator.


10 posted on 05/03/2010 2:00:29 AM PDT by Check6 (United States of Moronia: A nation of morons ruled by a gang of communist thugs.)
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To: spetznaz

It went from ‘the darn Ruskies took out the lights’ to ‘the darn ruskies gave wrong glide coordinates’ to now ‘the darn ruskies used a weather generator technique and wet teams.’
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It sure appears from the youtube video that wet teams were onsite. I think it is easier to pull something like this off without involving the locals ... a fake glideslope generator (should be easy enough to temporarily “kill” the real GS with some kind of shielding blanket on the antenna)and broadcasting bad “AWOS” info (wrong pressure) is all you need ,, easily a “one truck” small team operation.


11 posted on 05/03/2010 3:23:05 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Check6
So ask yourself this....

So why were there people (military/KGB/police?) shooting at the crash site?

Here is a video that shows a possible survivor in the wreckage waving his arm for help.

At approximately 1 minute into the video you can see someone shoot towards where that "survivor" is laying.

Ask yourself this...

When was the last time there were EVER shots fired at a crash site?

Here is the link: Shots fired at Polish plane crash site.

12 posted on 05/03/2010 3:23:10 AM PDT by bayliving (What are YOU prepared to sacrifice in order to preserve freedom?)
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To: bayliving; All
Sorry for the repeat of the "Ask yourself" questioin.

It is a bit early for me...

13 posted on 05/03/2010 3:24:09 AM PDT by bayliving (What are YOU prepared to sacrifice in order to preserve freedom?)
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To: All
So the link doesn't work I see.

Here is the link in long form:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqMkqyAFob0&annotation_id=annotation_114353&feature=iv

Just copy and paste it.

It appears that my HTML skills are a bit shakey this morning as well.

14 posted on 05/03/2010 3:26:51 AM PDT by bayliving (What are YOU prepared to sacrifice in order to preserve freedom?)
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To: bayliving

Apparently, the fellow that filmed this was stabbed to death.


15 posted on 05/03/2010 3:48:08 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: TLI

The entire planeload was a huge chunk of the government, military brass and finance. The President of the Central Bank, who supported the (now dead) President. The military brass who supported the (now dead) President. And the President who did NOT support Putin and also was still for getting the missile defense that Putin pitched a fit over.

Lots of reasons it would seem. And if all of these people were killed in various ‘accidents’, it would most certainly be seen as murder. Now only the ‘the kooky’ see it as anything but a misfortunate event.

Also, there were safety features in place for landing just a few days earlier when the Prime Minister (who IS pro-Putin) landed at this same airport, but was removed before THIS plane was set to land.


16 posted on 05/03/2010 4:34:53 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: struggle

>> Apparently, the fellow that filmed this was stabbed to death.

Has this ever been confirmed?

The only “source” for this was an anonymous comment left at a Polish newspaper website. How come no other media, including Polish media, has confirmed this?


17 posted on 05/03/2010 4:54:52 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: montanajoe

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Artificial fog!


18 posted on 05/03/2010 7:14:36 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: M. Espinola; SJackson

fyi


19 posted on 05/03/2010 9:56:46 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...

Ping


20 posted on 05/03/2010 10:47:04 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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