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Scroogle has been blocked!
Scroogle Home Page ^ | May 10, 2010 | Daniel Brandt

Posted on 05/10/2010 10:54:33 PM PDT by Chances Are

From Scroogle (enter a search term, hit enter, and this is the message you'll see....)

We regret to announce that our Google scraper may have to be permanently retired, thanks to a change at Google. It depends on whether Google is willing to restore the simple interface that we've been scraping since Scroogle started five years ago. Actually, we've been using that interface for scraping since Google-Watch.org began in 2002.

This interface was remarkably stable all that time. During those eight years there were only about five changes that required some programming adjustments. Also, this interface was available at every Google data center in exactly the same form, which allowed us to use 700 IP addresses for Google.

That interface was at www.google.com/ie but on May 10, 2010 they took it down and inserted a redirect to /toolbar/ie8/sidebar.html. It used to have a search box, and the results it showed were generic during that entire time. It didn't show the snippets unless you moused-over the links it produced (they were there for our program, so that was okay), and it has never had any ads. Our impression was that these results were from Google's basic algorithms, and that extra features and ads were added on top of these generic results. Three years ago Google launched "Universal Search," which meant that they added results from other Google services on their pages. But this simple interface we were using was not affected at all.

Now that interface is gone. It is not possible to continue Scroogle unless we have a simple interface that is stable. Google's main consumer-oriented interface that they want everyone to use is too complex, and changes too frequently, to make our scraping operation possible.

Over the next few days we will attempt to contact Google and determine whether the old interface is gone as a matter of policy at Google, or if they simply have it hidden somewhere and will tell us where it is so that we can continue to use it.

Thank you for your support during these past five years. Check back in a week or so; if we don't hear from Google by next week, I think we can all assume that Google would rather have no Scroogle, and no privacy for searchers, at all.

— Daniel Brandt, Public Information Research, scroogle AT lavabit.com


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; boycottgoogle; chatroom; datamanagement; google; netneutrality; privacyrights; scroogle; searchengines
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I just encountered this when seeking some information via Scroogle.

We'll know in a week or so whether or not we lose another chunk of what makes the Internet, and it's users, special.

Any idea where else we can go to preserve privacy in searches?

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I did a search and found nothing.

I hope I've posted this in the right area.

Admin/Mods: If I've misplaced this, please place it where suitable by your standards, and accept my apologies.

CA....

1 posted on 05/10/2010 10:54:33 PM PDT by Chances Are
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To: Chances Are; ShadowAce; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ping.


2 posted on 05/10/2010 10:55:46 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: Chances Are

Damn. Now it’s back to Startpage and Ixquick..


3 posted on 05/10/2010 11:09:03 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Chances Are

Enjoy what’s left of the Internet.

The communists are tightening their grip.


4 posted on 05/10/2010 11:25:33 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: Chances Are

https://ixquick.com/


5 posted on 05/10/2010 11:28:23 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: Chances Are

Dang, and I had just found Scroogle, too! :(


6 posted on 05/10/2010 11:36:34 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Chances Are

I must be getting old, because I have no idea what Scroogle or a “scraper” is.


7 posted on 05/10/2010 11:40:53 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Chances Are
This is what they are looking for I remember playing with that page when Google first started:
www.google.com/ie cashed

I looked around couldn't find it.

8 posted on 05/10/2010 11:44:27 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Chances Are

That hacks me off. I switched to Scroogle a few months ago and loved it. WTH? This seems to be not just a ‘simple’ change but a targeted attack (imo) but I’m not savvy regarding the nuances of the tech world. I just use what’s there. I won’t go back to Google; no privacy and we’ve been told never to expect it and we don’t have a ‘right’ to it.

Their no doubt in bed with the current marxists.


9 posted on 05/10/2010 11:46:34 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Their They're no doubt in bed with the current marxists.
10 posted on 05/10/2010 11:48:17 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: Yardstick
more secured web browsers personally I like this one:
This one gives you an option to route through a proxy server when browsing the site you want:
http://us2.startpage.com/eng/
11 posted on 05/10/2010 11:48:23 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Yardstick

I’m with ya, Yardstick! I’ve been online sine ‘94, and this is the first time I’ve heard of Scroogle. What exactly IS Scroogle? Scraping?


12 posted on 05/10/2010 11:51:40 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue" ><>)
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To: Chances Are

looks like the google monster is concerned about “ITS” privacy.

I liked scroogle.


13 posted on 05/10/2010 11:59:43 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Don't know why clicking on your link doesn't work so I'll try to fix it here:

http://us2.startpage.com/eng

14 posted on 05/11/2010 12:34:13 AM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: plinyelder

thanks.. I see why. I have heavy fingers (an extra key shouldn’t have been there)


15 posted on 05/11/2010 12:41:28 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: plinyelder

FYI: your link to us2.startpage.com says it’s powered by itsquick.


16 posted on 05/11/2010 12:45:58 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (To anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a Liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Wasn’t mine.
I was just trying to help fix someone else’s link.


17 posted on 05/11/2010 12:48:22 AM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Chances Are

Well, I did a search since I have never used the site (web guy since 1993) and what they seem to do would tick me off if I was Google.

They are taking away Google’s ad revenues or did I miss what they do completely?

If I took DrudgeReport and stripped away all ads and news links and pushed it out, wouldn’t that seem wrong?

For secrecy, use anonomizer and you shouldn’t have an issue.


18 posted on 05/11/2010 1:03:13 AM PDT by wireplay
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To: Chances Are

Big Brother is watching.


19 posted on 05/11/2010 1:20:36 AM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: Chances Are
I posted this to slashdot.org. If you have an account there, please vote on my story submission so it will make it to the front page. http://slashdot.org/submission/1234560/Scroogle-has-been-blocked-and-may-be-retired
20 posted on 05/11/2010 1:27:42 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: Chances Are

Also, as an alternative to using scroogle (while it is down), use google with Firefox with the Tor Button enabled.


21 posted on 05/11/2010 1:29:38 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: Chances Are
I was looking around and I found this: https://us2.startpage.com/.

It's a privacy-oriented search service.
22 posted on 05/11/2010 1:38:53 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: wireplay
...use anonomizer and you shouldn’t have an issue.

To me $80/year is an issue just to search anomalously...

23 posted on 05/11/2010 2:29:04 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (To anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a Liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: joseph20

How do I vote for it?


24 posted on 05/11/2010 2:43:19 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Chances Are
Scroogle has been blocked!

Damn!

25 posted on 05/11/2010 3:02:03 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: wireplay

****Well, I did a search since I have never used the site (web guy since 1993) and what they seem to do would tick me off if I was Google.

They are taking away Google’s ad revenues or did I miss what they do completely?

If I took DrudgeReport and stripped away all ads and news links and pushed it out, wouldn’t that seem wrong?****

I remember when people bought subscriptions to cable tv to get away from ads. Then sure enough ads became a staple of cable tv as well. I pay for internet access so if I want to eliminate ads I have that right just as Google and Drudge have the right to display them.


26 posted on 05/11/2010 3:04:18 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (Prepare for battle and never forsake the Lord...unknown)
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To: Chances Are
Scroogle was run by leftists anyway. There was never any good reason to think they treated your data any better than Google.

Famlisearch

27 posted on 05/11/2010 3:08:25 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: pillut48

It ‘scrapes’ the google return and send them to you. That way google cannot track your search and relate it to your IP.

They track every user that connects to google. They can tell all kinds of information about your pc including OS, location and IP. They can then related your search to your address. They keep the information for a very long time.


28 posted on 05/11/2010 3:20:04 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Can’t search images on Famlisearch.....


29 posted on 05/11/2010 3:28:50 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Chances Are

We use GoodSearch... they utilize the Yahoo engine and they share some of the adv revenue with your favorite charity. We’ve added both of our kids’ schools over the years and gained some monies for them. The real rewards come from clicking through them to online retailers - just for that ‘portal’ click-through the retailer kicks in a percent of the merchandise sale to your charity. Something to consider.


30 posted on 05/11/2010 3:59:54 AM PDT by TedLee ("Self government without self control will not work")
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To: Chances Are; ShadowAce; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Jaguar; max americana; Boucheau; glock rocks; ...
An observation that seems ironic to me:

This is the same google that supports net neutrality. As they censor certain websites.

So all of us are supposed to believe that google requires the federal government to impose net neutrality in order to stop google from censoring?

That doesn't add up. Doesn't pass the smell test. I'm sure most of us can see through this.

31 posted on 05/11/2010 4:17:06 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Net Neutrality - I say a lot of un-neutral things. How about you?)
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To: driftdiver
>"They track every user that connects to google. They can tell all kinds of information about your pc including OS, location and IP. They can then related your search to your address. They keep the information for a very long time."

Keep using GOOGLE! I make money every time you do!

XOXOXOXOXOX,

Al


32 posted on 05/11/2010 4:26:36 AM PDT by scoobysnak71 (Never argue with stupid people. They drag you down to their level and win through experience.)
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Folks, this is about Internet Privacy from search engines not about raising money for charities.

Scroogle would ‘scrape’ Google search results to provide data that gave you privacy from the Big Brother efforts of the Obama loving Google owners.

Nature hates a vacuum and I am sure that another method will be used to achieve that same results.


33 posted on 05/11/2010 4:35:23 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: Yardstick
"An ad-free Google search proxy which prevents the searcher's data being stored by Google, a Firefox plugin, and tools for webmasters."

It is Google without the ads and storing of cookies or the Search History. I can see why Google would change things to get rid of Scroogle. It cuts some ad revenue and still uses their service.

34 posted on 05/11/2010 4:36:06 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: WaterBoard

” We are moving to a Google that knows more about you.” — Google CEO Eric Schmidt, speaking to financial analysts,
February 9, 2005

CNBC’s Mario Bartiromo asked CEO Schmidt in her December 3, 2009 interview: “People are treating Google like their most trusted friend. Should they?” Schmidt tells Baritoromo:

“If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place.”


35 posted on 05/11/2010 4:38:33 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: joseph20

What is the Tor button?


36 posted on 05/11/2010 4:54:06 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

The Onion Router. It’s an anonymizer.


37 posted on 05/11/2010 5:07:06 AM PDT by Famishus (North of the equator, the Death Spiral is clockwise.)
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To: Famishus

Maybe it’s just easier right now to use Bing. ;-)


38 posted on 05/11/2010 5:37:09 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Las Vegas Dave
To me $80/year is an issue just to search anomalously...

Do you mean "anonymously"? Or are your searches really anomalous?

39 posted on 05/11/2010 5:41:54 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Yardstick
must be getting old, because I have no idea what Scroogle or a “scraper” is.

Ditto...and I also do not tweet nor text...and when some texts me....I see who it is....call them...and when they ask if I read their text, I say...'NO that's why I have a phone' 'If you want to email me use the computer'.

40 posted on 05/11/2010 5:45:44 AM PDT by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Chances Are

Guess I’m in the minority.

Sure Google is leftist, and should be avoided. But Scroogle (which I wasn’t aware of until just now) seems to simply piggyback on ... Google.

Why is it Google’s responsibility to cater to another company, which could arguably be described as a competitor?

If Scroogle is so fabulous, perhaps someone who feels that way should help them with funding, in order to build their own proprietary search engine - and take Google on for real.

Otherwise they’re sort of like pilot fish, living off a whale.

Not the whale’s responsibility, when you get right down to it.

One word: Ixquick.


41 posted on 05/11/2010 5:47:14 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: Chances Are

After all these years now I understand Scroogle’s name!
Google+scraper=Scroogle!

Learn sumpin new everyday!


42 posted on 05/11/2010 5:50:45 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (When will you have enough, Mr. Obama?)
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To: SumProVita
>"Maybe it’s just easier right now to use Bing. ;-)"

NOOOOOOOOOOO!


43 posted on 05/11/2010 5:51:15 AM PDT by scoobysnak71 (Never argue with stupid people. They drag you down to their level and win through experience.)
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To: Famishus

....is there anything else that has to be downloaded..????..(just started using firefox a few weeks ago)....does firefox automatically load the anonymizer in the initial download and the button allows it to operate?


44 posted on 05/11/2010 5:56:14 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: scoobysnak71

Why not? Any other suggestions?


45 posted on 05/11/2010 6:07:25 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

>”Why not? Any other suggestions?”

Um, ok. It was a small sarcastic comment regarding Al Gore. Sorry you misunderstood it.

I use BING too.


46 posted on 05/11/2010 6:12:13 AM PDT by scoobysnak71 (Never argue with stupid people. They drag you down to their level and win through experience.)
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To: scoobysnak71

Lol! OK....I was concerned that there was something about Bing that I didn’t know. I’m from Tennessee, where we KNOW all about the hypocrite, Gore. This is the state that Obama is ignoring during its worst natural disaster ever!

I absolutely despise Google!


47 posted on 05/11/2010 6:16:23 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Doogle
****....is there anything else that has to be downloaded..????..(just started using firefox a few weeks ago)....does firefox automatically load the anonymizer in the initial download and the button allows it to operate?**** You must download Tor and Torbutton for Torbutton to work. This link explains it for you By the way, here is a good tip. Always download Firefox add-ons from the add-on developers website. They will have the latest bug fixes which sometimes take a long time to make it to the Mozilla add-on page.
48 posted on 05/11/2010 6:47:14 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (Prepare for battle and never forsake the Lord...unknown)
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To: Chances Are

I just went to do a search on scroogle and found that same message.


49 posted on 05/11/2010 8:47:01 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: ResponseAbility

Thank you


50 posted on 05/11/2010 9:09:12 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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