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Mom: Son in 'extensive therapy' after viewing library book
Florida Freedom Newspapers ^ | 7/5/10 | Brian Hughes

Posted on 07/07/2010 1:38:38 PM PDT by MissTed

A Japanese serial graphic novel genre popular with young teens has raised the ire of a Crestview mother whose teenage son got hold of an adult version of the genre from the Crestview Public Library.

“Manga” depicts highly stylized adventure and, occasionally, violence in fantasy settings.

Margaret Barbaree, founder of a citizens’ group called Protect Our Children, presented examples from a manga book to the Crestview City Council last week that she described as “graphic” and “shocking,” taken from material she said is “available to children” at the Crestview Public Library.

“My son lost his mind when he found this,” Barbaree said of the manga book from which her examples were taken.

She said her son had removed the book unsupervised from the library’s general stacks last summer and put it in his backpack. She has kept it ever since.

“Now he’s in a home for extensive therapy,” she said.

Several months ago, Barbaree had circulated a petition bearing 226 signatures of citizens protesting the availability of manga, which she mistakenly referred to as “anime,” or Japanese animation.

However, the library said some patrons complained they were misled when they signed the petition.

“They told us she (Barbaree) approached them at the Christmas parade and asked them to sign a petition protesting pornography in the library,” said Resource Librarian Sandra Dreaden.

Barbaree said Library Director Jean Lewis explained to her that there is a demand for manga, and that the library strives to meet the needs of its patrons.

City Council President Charles Baugh Jr. assured Barbaree that “we have safeguards in place to protect our children and we have committees that review library purchases so they meet the standards of the (American) Library Association.”

The books that concerned Barbaree “are in the library for those who wish to partake of them and they are in a section of the library” for adult patrons, said Baugh, who visited the library himself the day after the council meeting and said he found the manga available in the young adult section perfectly innocuous.

“We follow up with our citizens’ concerns,” Baugh said after meeting with library staff and viewing the young adult manga.

Baugh also confirmed that the book Barbaree’s son had taken was in the general stacks well away from the children’s and young adult books.

“Our library is well managed and well staffed,” Baugh told Barbaree while assuring her, “I am a family man and I understand what you are saying.”

Lewis said the manga available in the young adult section of the library is oriented toward young teen readers and does not contain the adult themes of the book Barbaree’s son took. That book had been in the general stacks, on a top shelf in a section with other graphic novels and comic books not geared toward young readers.

“We have policies and procedures in place to prevent underage children from accessing those materials,” Baugh said.


TOPICS: Books/Literature
KEYWORDS: ala; bravosierra; comicbooks; cultureofcorruption; culturewar; doesntpasssmelltest; florida; libraries; libraryassociation; manga; moralabsolutes; pornification; whenmomisawhackjob
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I'll admit to being clueless about "Manga" novels, but "extensive therapy" really??????
1 posted on 07/07/2010 1:38:40 PM PDT by MissTed
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To: MissTed

>> “extensive therapy” really??????

My guess is, Barbaree is somewhat of a drama queen.


2 posted on 07/07/2010 1:40:37 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: MissTed

Beware of groups called “ Protect Our Children”.

Also, how old is her son?


3 posted on 07/07/2010 1:41:16 PM PDT by Borges
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To: MissTed

It doesn’t mention the title but I suspect the kid already had mental health issues and mom is just looking for a scapegoat.


4 posted on 07/07/2010 1:41:59 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012)
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To: MissTed

I wonder what the title was? Sounds like something a bit more powerful than Catcher in the Rye.


5 posted on 07/07/2010 1:42:34 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: MissTed

Yeah, dunno about therapy, but some of the Graphic Adult Novels, are not “mere” comic books. From what I understand, it is not unusual for adults to read Manga in Japan, and some of the themes are disturbing and not intended for children.

Someone goofed in purchasing and classification.


6 posted on 07/07/2010 1:43:31 PM PDT by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: Mr. Silverback; martin_fierro; Slings and Arrows; maggief
She said her son had removed the book unsupervised from the library’s general stacks last summer and put it in his backpack. She has kept it ever since.

“Now he’s in a home for extensive therapy,” she said.

Just spends all day, every day, flouncing about that little padded room in his homemade Sailor Moon costume. Tragic, really.

7 posted on 07/07/2010 1:44:14 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: Borges

All the article states is “teenage son”. I’m guessing she wigged out more than the boy did.


8 posted on 07/07/2010 1:44:25 PM PDT by MissTed (Never buy products from ACME.)
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To: MissTed

The word should be “Hentai” for the pornographic stuff.

I am pretty jaded, and lived some rough stuff as a child but these things shocked the h3ll out of me when I was stationed in Japan (It isn’t even separated from other stuff in bookstores there). I can see it having that effect on some people


9 posted on 07/07/2010 1:45:57 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

>> Just spends all day, every day, flouncing about that little padded room in his homemade Sailor Moon costume.

ROFL! Now that there’s a funny visual.


10 posted on 07/07/2010 1:46:10 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: MissTed
“My son lost his mind when he found this,” Barbaree said

I'm trying to figure out if the son or Mom lost their mind. One of them is very delicate. They never give the son's age. Mind you, I am against pornography but he looked at it ONCE, STOLE it and went nuts? Ummmmmmm.

11 posted on 07/07/2010 1:46:31 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: MissTed

What kind of library has pronographic comic books?


12 posted on 07/07/2010 1:46:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: MissTed

My local library has a graphic novels section sandwiched between the children’s section and the teenagers section. The librarian got quite huffy when I suggested that the volume graphically depicting a man being raped to death ought to be placed with the adult books and not six inches from the Pokemon comics.

I haven’t taken my kids back since.


13 posted on 07/07/2010 1:46:57 PM PDT by Eepsy (www.pioacademy.org)
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To: MissTed

They can be extra ordinarily sexually graphic or violent, and usually both, because manga isn’t regulated like other forms of entertainment are in Japan, thus there are virtually no limits on what is printed.

Anyway, I’ll bet that comic cured the kid of any desire to be a weeaboo. He should stick with Spiderman.


14 posted on 07/07/2010 1:47:38 PM PDT by Hexenhammer (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: MissTed

If your son “lost his mind” over this then you are a very poor parent. You have not prepared him to distinguish between acceptable and not acceptable and how on earth does he get through a day with out “vapors” and “severe mental illness” just from every day life? What a whack job of a mother! Ban this mother from having any more children!


15 posted on 07/07/2010 1:48:48 PM PDT by Pilated
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To: MissTed

I don’t believe censorship has any place in the library. If someone doesn’t want to see a book then they don’t have to take it out. They can leave it on the shelf for the next person.

This cupcake was probably already hopped up on Ritilin and probably classified as some sort of autism.


16 posted on 07/07/2010 1:49:04 PM PDT by Dayman
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To: MissTed

How old is this kid?


17 posted on 07/07/2010 1:49:31 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Mother do you think they’ll drop the bomb?
Mother to you think they’ll like this song?
Mother do you think they’ll try to break,my balls?


18 posted on 07/07/2010 1:50:07 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: MissTed

and how do you feel about that?


19 posted on 07/07/2010 1:50:25 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: MissTed
I think that those who want to can buy their own porn. Just in general I have no clue about this book and I am not a prude I occasionally see PG movies.
20 posted on 07/07/2010 1:51:14 PM PDT by Mark was here (It's either Obama or America. There cannot be both.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Just spends all day, every day, flouncing about that little padded room in his homemade Sailor Moon costume. Tragic, really.

ROTFL. Our daughter and son-in-law love the manga and anime stuff, make prize-winning costumes - last participated in the convention in San Jose. They've told me about some of the more twisted Manga, usually people who really, really, really want attention. Generally dressed in costumes you wish you could erase from your memory but no worse than some of the patrons of the local Walmart...

21 posted on 07/07/2010 1:52:32 PM PDT by BuckyKat (Green is the new red.)
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To: BenLurkin

http://catalog.mbln.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=12785I59V492M.6625&profile=bpl1&source=~!horizon&view=subscriptionsummary&uri=full=3100001~!2746005~!15&ri=4&aspect=subtab440&menu=search&ipp=20&spp=20&staffonly=&term=Moore,+Alan,+1953-&index=PAUTHOR&uindex=&aspect=subtab440&menu=search&ri=4

Looks like Boston does....


22 posted on 07/07/2010 1:57:34 PM PDT by Eepsy (www.pioacademy.org)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yeah the theft part of all this seems be secondary.


23 posted on 07/07/2010 1:57:43 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Borges

I nooticed that there was no age mentioned so he could be 35 for all we know? Drama queen!


24 posted on 07/07/2010 1:58:13 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: BuckyKat

few things will make the stomach churn like watching 40 year old, morbidly obese, neckbeards dressed as skimpy clothed anime characters.


25 posted on 07/07/2010 1:58:34 PM PDT by Hexenhammer (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Hexenhammer; MissTed

Manga is basically comics. Hentai is the violent and graphic type. Sailor Moon in comic form would be general manga. However, Sailor Moon doing the deed would be hentai.


26 posted on 07/07/2010 1:59:14 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: BenLurkin

>> What kind of library has pronographic comic books?

(rolling eyes) Some people are just helpless... lemmee check my rolodex and I’ll get back to you with some addresses.


27 posted on 07/07/2010 1:59:27 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: xp38

Yup. I’d say the theft part shows there were existing problems.


28 posted on 07/07/2010 2:01:15 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: MissTed

It doesnt say why the kid is in extensive therapy. Pretty poor reporting. They go from he had it in his bag to he is in extensive therapy. What happened in between?

Did he read it and start harming animals? Did he shut himself off from everyone? did he refuse to eat? Did he go about his life like normal but his mom threw him in therapy to gain sympathy points for her proto-fascist MADD wannabe group?

We need answers to this.


29 posted on 07/07/2010 2:01:18 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: MissTed
It sort of depends on what Manga - that's actually a publishing genre. Some of it isn't much more than graphic soap opera. Some of it is remarkably violent, depicting rape, gangland slayings, etc, etc. Outright pornography is usually referred to in other terms, hentai being the generic reference.

The irony is that many of the activities depicted in the more violent manga are relatively rare in real life in Japan. Access by minors is less than you might think largely because nearly any adult can shake his or her finger at nearly any kid and say "You shouldn't be reading that," and the parents will come to the defense...of the adult. Try that one in the States.

When I lived there my neighborhood Mom & Pop had vending machines containing manga, soft-porn mags, beer, and, yes, whiskey, and it was less than half a block from a secondary school. The kids didn't bother them because they knew what would happen if they did. America used to be a little like that but it isn't anymore. Just a thought.

30 posted on 07/07/2010 2:01:35 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Nervous Tick

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/cowabunga.wav


31 posted on 07/07/2010 2:02:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Hexenhammer
few things will make the stomach churn like watching 40 year old, morbidly obese, neckbeards dressed as skimpy clothed anime characters.

You nailed 'em. My kids have photos to prove it.

32 posted on 07/07/2010 2:03:03 PM PDT by BuckyKat (Green is the new red.)
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To: MissTed
Mom: Son in 'extensive therapy' after viewing library book

He checked out The Audacity of Hope? Dreams of My Father? If he read It Takes A Village therapy will be useless.

33 posted on 07/07/2010 2:03:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: MissTed

There are segments of Japanese pop culture that are fixated with extreme rape and violence against women. Some of which is fairly mainstream.

It isn’t outside the realm of possibility for manga to deal with some subject matter that is quite extreme and depraved.


34 posted on 07/07/2010 2:05:36 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: Billthedrill

>> America used to be a little like that but it isn’t anymore. Just a thought.

Personal responsibility?

That’s not progressive thinking, you know. That sort of thing went out of favor a generation or so after WWII. Reactionary!


35 posted on 07/07/2010 2:05:41 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: MissTed
“Now he’s in a home for extensive therapy,” she said

How did we become a nation of such pampered, sheltered victims?

Disgusting...

36 posted on 07/07/2010 2:06:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: MissTed; Larry Lucido; Cagey; MotleyGirl70; Gamecock

37 posted on 07/07/2010 2:07:39 PM PDT by earlJam
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To: MissTed; wagglebee
City Council President Charles Baugh Jr. assured Barbaree that “we have safeguards in place to protect our children and we have committees that review library purchases so they meet the standards of the (American) Library Association.”

BULLSTALIN.

The ALA has NO "standards". They do not believe in a notion of "age appropriate materials".

If you kid wants to thumb through copies of Playboy (for interviews with President Carter and other historic figures), go right ahead.

Want to check out an R or NC-17 rated film? That's no concern for the ALA.

Who do you think it is that fights against porn filters (or even tapping people on the shoulder for cruising porn sites at the library) in public?

Whether it is Japanese Manga or the Comix (emphasis on X) of Robert Crumb, they are actively against putting any restrictions on the materials in the library.

ALA - Equity of Access

Equity of access means that all people have the information they need-regardless of age, education, ethnicity, language, income, physical limitations or geographic barriers. It means they are able to obtain information in a variety of formats-electronic, as well as print. It also means they are free to exercise their right to know without fear of censorship or reprisal.

ALA - Free Access to Libraries for Minors "An Interpretation of the Library Bill of Rights"

Library policies and procedures that effectively deny minors equal and equitable access to all library resources and services available to other users violate the Library Bill of Rights. The American Library Association opposes all attempts to restrict access to library services, materials, and facilities based on the age of library users....

Libraries should not limit the selection and development of library resources simply because minors will have access to them. Institutional self-censorship diminishes the credibility of the library in the community, and restricts access for all library users....

Children and young adults unquestionably possess First Amendment rights, including the right to receive information through the library in print, nonprint, or digital format. Constitutionally protected speech cannot be suppressed solely to protect children or young adults from ideas or images a legislative body believes to be unsuitable for them.

1 Librarians and library governing bodies should not resort to age restrictions in an effort to avoid actual or anticipated objections, because only a court of law can determine whether material is not constitutionally protected....

A store that sells same materials found in a library to a minor could be criminally charged with corrupting a minor.

38 posted on 07/07/2010 2:09:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: BenLurkin
What kind of library has pornographic comic books?

And what kind of "adult" would read pornographic comic books??
39 posted on 07/07/2010 2:09:40 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Nervous Tick

Ran across RanXerox or something?


40 posted on 07/07/2010 2:11:53 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: BenLurkin

What kind of library has pronographic comic books?

&&&

What kind of library has comic books?


41 posted on 07/07/2010 2:12:46 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Bigg Red

You need to get out more. Things have changed in the past 25 years.

Idiocracy IS our future.


42 posted on 07/07/2010 2:13:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: BenLurkin
What kind of library has pronographic comic books?

Same kind that has phonographic books...

43 posted on 07/07/2010 2:14:03 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: MissTed

No photos?

I wanna see what caused him to lose his mind.


44 posted on 07/07/2010 2:14:28 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: a fool in paradise
Idiocracy IS our future.

Idiocracy is now.

45 posted on 07/07/2010 2:17:10 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Do you read pornographic comic books like this Manga mentioned in the article?


46 posted on 07/07/2010 2:18:00 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Well.....if you check some websites there are hentai about dismembered women and their, um, adventures with men. Google or Bing hentai.


47 posted on 07/07/2010 2:18:19 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Dayman
I don’t believe censorship has any place in the library.

I don't believe I should be forced at the point of a gun to pay for libraries. If you want a book, buy it.

48 posted on 07/07/2010 2:19:46 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: MissTed

The mom may be a drama queen, BUT... the library is wasting taxpayer monies on oartoon porn (and game stations, too, I’ll wager) while the actual book shelves are stocked with pap and starved of classics.

The ALA is a den of theives and perverts.


49 posted on 07/07/2010 2:20:00 PM PDT by Valpal1 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: Artemis Webb

“Now he’s in a home for extensive therapy,” she said.
and thats because of the book ? Bullshit ~


50 posted on 07/07/2010 2:20:34 PM PDT by sonic109
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