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To: metmom

“We’re talking about illicit sex between a child and an alleged adult.”

I like your use of “alleged” adult. It is, IMHO, the most succinct and accurate summation of the teacher’s behavior possible.

Please don’t attack the bearer of bad news. I agree with durus’s posting of Edmund Burke’s famous line about responsibility for one’s behavior. In a republic, there can be no substitute for a self regulating citizenry.

Back to the thread. I have made clear my agreement with the Judeo-Christian concept of marriage. That we live in a cluture of sluts, ho’s and long legged mack daddies is no reason not to question our present situation.

The deliberate trashing of religion and the family has been the consuming effort of commies since Stalin’s day. As Antonio Gramsci said, take a generation or two and take over teh educational system. They did.

Cucumber and condom purchases by elementary schools is proof of Gramsci’s crowd’s domination of state schools. Contrary to what one of the angry poster who attacked me, the state does assume the child is rightfully theirs to shape as they want, not as the parents wish.

To assume that any state program, or set of state laws, can keep children from acting out the Sluts-R-Us is delusional. Only concerned and involved parents can raise children able to reject the cultural “norm” and recognize it as abnormal, antisocial, and unsustainable.

Funding a huge swarm of government intervenors does no demonstrable good to offset the cost, both financially culturally, let alone Constitutionally, which such programs inflict.

Parents, and society, does not need government to tell us what is right. That was done some thousands of years ago, on a mountain top. Said message was repeated about 2,000 years ago.

Government isn’t needed in this area, and I am of the opinion that the sooner we get government out of family issues and decisions the better.

Government activity in family is a form of charity, at best.

As madison said, there is NO Constitutional authority for government to do charity. That means, government should keep its hands off the family.

Yes, some children will be beaten, seduced, raped, even killed. But, given that government intervention is worse - perhaps we must rely on family and neighbors, and church members.

Those used to work.

Evil acts were not prevented back then, but they were fewer in number.

Lastly, allowing easy divorce guaranteed child abuse because non-birth fathers do not care for children as they do for their own children. Such is human nature.

I don’t have answer, but I did hope that raising questions would stimulate thought, not provoke personal attack.


122 posted on 08/03/2010 10:27:11 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru; BykrBayb; trisham; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Sopater; christianhomeschoolmommaof3; ...

This has nothing to do with marriage.

It’s completely and totally irrelevant what different cultures in the world today and throughout history had as marriage customs. Your deflecting the topic and arguing for things that have nothing to do with it is just a smoke screen for having been exposed as not condemning it but condoning it.

And your arguments about that only address the issue of older men with younger girls who aren’t even as young as this boy was. So the FAIL.

What happened was wrong period.

And it’s indefensible.

The fact that you’re not condemning it but trying to find every which way to excuse it shows the depth of depravity of your own mind, along with the posts you posted here.

Only abusers justify their actions by insisting that no harm is done to the victim, that the victims actually enjoy it or want it, that it’s not really wrong because it happens somewhere else in the world or in history, yada, yada, yada.....

We’ve heard arguments like that before from pedophiles.

Talk like a pedophile and you’ll be labeled as one.

BB is right, you’ve revealed a lot of ugliness within yourself.


124 posted on 08/03/2010 10:38:14 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Government isn’t needed in this area, and I am of the opinion that the sooner we get government out of family issues and decisions the better.

Government activity in family is a form of charity, at best.

As madison said, there is NO Constitutional authority for government to do charity. That means, government should keep its hands off the family.

I guess you didn't realize that crimes such as rape and homosexuality were CAPITAL CRIMES when our Founding Fathers were around.

Yes, some children will be beaten, seduced, raped, even killed. But, given that government intervention is worse - perhaps we must rely on family and neighbors, and church members.

This better than just about any post on FR demonstrates how sick, dangerous and evil the libertarian agenda is.

You are actually suggesting that letting childred be BEATEN, RAPED AND KILLED is preferable to the government having laws to prevent it.

128 posted on 08/03/2010 10:54:12 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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