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PERSHING WOULD LET BRITAIN HAVE 50 OLD U. S. DESTROYERS TO GUARD OUR OWN LIBERTY (8/5/40)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 8/5/40 | John H. Crider, James MacDonald, Hallett Abend, Hugh Byas, Percival Knauth, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 08/05/2010 4:27:58 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: catholic; milhist; piusxii; realtime; worldwarii
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To: Tax-chick

I can’t argue that. I definitely is a form of life support at winter football games. (mixed with hot chocolate of course)


21 posted on 08/05/2010 1:35:27 PM PDT by CougarGA7
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To: CougarGA7

The deer-hunting gentlemen would never give me any, because I’m a girl.


22 posted on 08/05/2010 2:17:17 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Steampunk Baby and the Quest for Bill's iPod - now on DVD!)
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To: CougarGA7
That teetotaler Hitler

The Leader was known to sip an occasional bier.

Those looked like Nip bombers to me, as well.

23 posted on 08/05/2010 5:04:18 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
The Leader was known to sip an occasional bier.

True, so it doesn't make him a teetotaler by definition. He was not much for the drink though so sip would be an good representation of how he drank. Author Ian Kershaw mentions an instance at the fall of Czecho-Slovakia in which they toasted its fall with a glass of Pilsner. Hitler tasted it, but didn't like it since it was, in his opinion, too bitter for him. But I would have to imagine that it would be difficult to be completely separated from beer as a Nazi considering their predominant meeting places during the early days.

24 posted on 08/05/2010 8:36:22 PM PDT by CougarGA7
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To: Tax-chick

That’s not fair. The Schnapps is just to keep the blood warm.


25 posted on 08/05/2010 8:37:39 PM PDT by CougarGA7
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To: mick; Tax-chick; Homer_J_Simpson; CougarGA7
"Holy crap...The Nazis were against beer !!
"That's reason enough to fight them !! "

I've long been fascinated by questions such as: how did the Nazis do so well in the beginning, but then fail in the end?

Well.... hmmmmmm... could this be the real reason?

You know, the Germans are a stoic people, accustomed to hardships and long suffering. In extreme conditions they can tolerate pretty much anything, and still continue to function.

But they will not tolerate the absence of beer -- or even inadequate beer. So, I predict that if the Nazis try to deprive them, they will find their unbeatable blitz-krieg machine suddenly bogged down in the mud and unable to move anywhere, except homeward... ;-)

26 posted on 08/09/2010 7:13:16 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; CougarGA7
"‘Our Duty’ to Help – 2-3 "

Very interesting article.

US General John Pershing commanded the expeditionary force in what is here called "the other war."
Pershing came from the U.S. Grant Unconditional Surrender school of military strategy, and disagreed with southern President Wilson's "peace with honor" formulations.

Pershing believed in 1918 that the allies needed to thoroughly defeat Germany and march into Berlin, so there would never be any doubt about it in German minds.
He predicted that President Wilson's approach would simply result in a round-two in twenty years.

Sadly, his prediction came all-to-true, but it is most interesting to note that Pershing did not at this time call for another US expeditionary force to Europe.

Instead he says the US must support Britain with old destroyers, and begin to prepare for war.

27 posted on 08/09/2010 7:30:32 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
You know,Joe, you might be on to something. War is an endeavor of the Will...during our own revolution we were out gunned and out generaled but soldiered on because of the Will of Washington and many (but not all)of his troops in the field.

Maybe the lack of beer sapped the fighting spirit and Will of the Germans...in the same sense - now here I go completely off topic but a friend of mine mentioned it yesterday watching golf on TV and your comments reminded me of it- the same way that a lack of extra curricular women may have apparently sapped the fighting spirit and Will of Tiger Woods. Who knows?? Something sure has changed inside him.

28 posted on 08/09/2010 7:55:50 AM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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