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Something odd: Tetraxenongold
Self ^ | 18 Aug 10 | Self

Posted on 08/18/2010 8:51:31 AM PDT by OneWingedShark

I was browsing around wikipedia and came across this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraxenonogold%28II%29

It's really odd because Gold and Xenon are both notoriously unreactive. Now I don't know a lot about chemistry, but this piques my interest (on account of its extreme weirdness) and I was wondering if any of my fellows here might know about its physical properties.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: chemistry; tetraxenongold
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1 posted on 08/18/2010 8:51:34 AM PDT by OneWingedShark
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To: OneWingedShark

Digital alchemy?


2 posted on 08/18/2010 8:52:34 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: OneWingedShark

why fr? why not a chem forum?


3 posted on 08/18/2010 8:55:33 AM PDT by devane617 (November!)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Isn’t that the molecule Bob Lazaar said the aliens used to create their gravitational interstellar drive systems?


4 posted on 08/18/2010 8:56:42 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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To: OneWingedShark

I get mine.......from Goldline.


5 posted on 08/18/2010 8:58:05 AM PDT by jdsteel (CONGRESS: Take it again in twenty ten.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Seems to me that it would be unstable as xenon has full electron shells.


6 posted on 08/18/2010 8:58:41 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: OneWingedShark

If anyone wants to buy TetraXenonGold, Ghanaian vendors are the cheapest.


7 posted on 08/18/2010 8:59:55 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: agere_contra

I heard they will send it to you free if you just pay the postage. Remember gold is heavy so the postage may seem a little high.


8 posted on 08/18/2010 9:01:29 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: devane617

Mostly because I [at the moment] want a light and possibly informative chit-chat... and somewhat of a distraction from all the “interesting times” going on around us.


9 posted on 08/18/2010 9:03:03 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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10 posted on 08/18/2010 9:03:23 AM PDT by Vasilli22
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LoL - Best reply ever!
[You’re listening to Glenn Beck right now, aren’t you?]


11 posted on 08/18/2010 9:04:29 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Hmm, it does seem strange that they would bond. I wonder if this flat lattice is weakly held together by some anti-ferromagnetic effect. Spin up on Gold, spin down on Xenon, the whole structure being lower-energy than would be possible for separated atoms.

Or maybe D-shell bonding is just more complex than the S and P bonding we’re all used to.


12 posted on 08/18/2010 9:11:59 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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AuXe4 compounds are only stable at low temperatures (like -40C) or high pressure since the Au-Xe bonds are weak. The AuXe42+ cation is dark red, and can be brought to room temperature only under 10 atmospheres of Xenon gas.
13 posted on 08/18/2010 9:22:22 AM PDT by blowfish
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To: agere_contra

Xenon, being a bit far down on the periodic chart, is a noble gas that has been known to form molecular bonds. It bonds with fluorine, although the solid crystals will explode with a touch of a feather.


14 posted on 08/18/2010 9:24:18 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes!)
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To: blowfish

That makes sense. A neutral ligand only weakly coupled to the metal.


15 posted on 08/18/2010 9:29:26 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: Fred Hayek
But weirdly enough, only with a feather. A sledgehammer bounces right off.
16 posted on 08/18/2010 9:32:13 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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Odd yes, but a feather is organic. A sledge hammer is metallic. I think it is because of the carbon bonds in the feather.
17 posted on 08/18/2010 9:35:08 AM PDT by jimpick
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Is AlGore still selling carbon bonds?


18 posted on 08/18/2010 9:53:44 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Obama suffers from decision-deficit disorder." Oliver North 6/25/10)
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To: Fred Hayek
Had to look it up. Three fluorides, XeF2, XeF4, and XeF6.

The reaction of XeF6 with water can end up giving Xenon Trioxide, a dangerously explosive compound.

So it compounds with Flourine AND Gold, plus it blows stuff up.

Wow, Xenon. You think it's a boring noble gas, but in reality it's the lesbian female assassin of the periodic table.

19 posted on 08/18/2010 9:56:01 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: jimpick

so does gold- i think they woukd slide right off’n each other

unless they happen to be sizes that pack neatly togther- Picture a lattice of basketballs with baseballs stuffed into the open spaces


20 posted on 08/18/2010 10:56:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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