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Abortion: A fetus doesn’t care
The Tower of Light ^ | 09 December 2010 | David Zuckerman

Posted on 12/09/2010 8:48:32 AM PST by Lorianne

Seeing as I just discussed murder, it seems fitting to next discuss abortion, as abortion is murder. When you get an abortion, you are killing a living organism, something that had the potential to become a fully-developed human being. I understand the perspective of the pro-life movement.

However, we kill living things all the time. We chop down trees to build our homes, we kill rodents and insects when they intrude said homes, we kill fish and other animals for sport and for nutrition purposes, and neither microorganism nor mouse is safe in Smith Hall; they are constantly killed for educational and research purposes.

We murder organisms we deem inferior to us without hesitance every day, and I personally believe fetuses fit into this category.

We do not have emotion for the reproductive gametes before they combine. When a man masturbates, I would be surprised to learn that he mourns the death of his sperm, as they die shortly after ejaculation. However, once a sperm cell combines with an egg and has the potential to become a human, people become very emotional, despite the fact that it is not a person during the first trimester, the time in which abortions are permitted.

During the first trimester, a fetus has no idea what is happening, as its brain is not developed enough for such advanced forms of awareness, thought and emotion. In the first trimester, a growing fetus cannot possibly understand what life is. It does not understand that it is being deprived of anything when an abortion is taking place. If my parents aborted my birth, I would not have been upset, as I could not have experienced any emotions during those early weeks of life.

Although it could be argued that I would be missing out on future experiences, I would not have been aware of this deprivation and would therefore not have experienced this deprivation.

Aside: If, for example, a wife cheats on her husband, but the husband never becomes aware of the affair, I would argue that this duplicity is not bad for the husband. If the wife is still loving and the husband is still happy, and if no one that knows about this affair negatively alters their behavior toward this man, he is unaffected. Yes, those aware of this affair would say that their relationship is not as strong because of this lie, but the man is still happily oblivious to it all. According to this train of thought, a fetus early in development, oblivious to everything, surely cannot emotionally suffer from an abortion.

And even if I was aware of what was happening, I do not think I would want to exist if my life was a mistake. I would not want to be a burden on a young woman still in high school. I would not want to limit the freedom of a young couple, one that may not want a child yet and may be financially unstable. And I would certainly not want to be the resulting reward of rape.

We wear condoms and take birth control in the attempt to prevent childbirth. Just because these precautionary measures fail does not mean women should be forced to suffer through carrying a child for nine months and undergo a painful and potentially fatal delivery.

Some that cannot raise a child on their own put their children up for adoption, but why force another to potentially grow up in an orphanage? We are overpopulated enough as it is.

To create life is a major responsibility; people should not have children unless they believe they can care for their children and make them happy. Life is hard even when one has loving parents with the best intentions. Life is filled with unfulfilled desires, never-ending stress (especially so close to finals) and disappointments. I do not know if I want to be responsible for putting another human being through the hardships that accompany existence.


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: 50milliondead; abortion; antibreeder; cultureofdeath; davidzuckerman; deathindustry; genocide; infanticide; leftuniverse; liberalism; lifehate; mentaldisorder; moralabsolutes; prodeath; prolife; zuckerman
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To: moodyskeptic
His argument would as easily fit the situation where the victim is in bed asleep and Zuckerman slips in quietly and blows his brains out with a shotgun.

This guy is a mental defective.

21 posted on 12/09/2010 9:18:41 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: moodyskeptic
His argument would as easily fit the situation where the victim is in bed asleep and Zuckerman slips in quietly and blows his brains out with a shotgun.

This guy is a mental defective.

22 posted on 12/09/2010 9:19:03 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: moodyskeptic
“Although it could be argued that I would be missing out on future experiences, I would not have been aware of this deprivation and would therefore not have experienced this deprivation.”

Take the Dead Kennedy's message to heart then and kill the poor. It wouldn't be a "quality" life. No more poverty. Problem solved, if you can live with yourself...

23 posted on 12/09/2010 9:19:03 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Lorianne

Trees, rodents, insects, fish, and human fetuses: it’s all the same to the brilliant and enlightened like Zuckerman.


24 posted on 12/09/2010 9:19:48 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: savagesusie
Alinsky and the one worship the devil.....small surprise there.

Lest anyone think your are joking, Saul Alinsky dedicated Rules For Radicals to Lucifer.

25 posted on 12/09/2010 9:21:03 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: a fool in paradise
I guess the author is unaware that seventy years ago his last name alone would have placed him in the "inferior" (actually he would have been labeled something like a "subhuman") category and he would have been murdered.
26 posted on 12/09/2010 9:22:05 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Lorianne
However, we kill living things all the time. We chop down trees to build our homes, we kill rodents and insects when they intrude said homes, we kill fish and other animals for sport and for nutrition purposes, and neither microorganism nor mouse is safe in Smith Hall; they are constantly killed for educational and research purposes. We murder organisms we deem inferior to us without hesitance every day, and I personally believe fetuses fit into this category.

We do not have emotion for the reproductive gametes before they combine. When a man masturbates, I would be surprised to learn that he mourns the death of his sperm, as they die shortly after ejaculation. However, once a sperm cell combines with an egg and has the potential to become a human, people become very emotional, despite the fact that it is not a person during the first trimester, the time in which abortions are permitted.

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Zuckerman seems to have surpassed even Peter Singer in his lack of regard for human beings.

27 posted on 12/09/2010 9:25:46 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Lorianne

“Before I formed you in the belly, I knew you. Before you came forth out of the womb, I sanctified you”
~ Jeremiah 1:5


28 posted on 12/09/2010 9:26:22 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Lorianne

So the main point of the author is that the fetus’ lack of awareness makes it ok....

so, if i were to walk up behind the author and shoot him in the back of the head thus killing him instantly, the fact that he was unaware of what just happened would make his murder ok with him?

Wow, how do you argue with that logic?


29 posted on 12/09/2010 9:26:54 AM PST by Shamrock498
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To: Lorianne

Another educated idiot with frightenly Nazi-like immoral beliefs.


30 posted on 12/09/2010 9:27:09 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Lorianne
It would appear that some adult at Towson has taken this down. Wow. Intrinscally Evil indeed.


In the eyes of candid (instead of hiding behind neutral words like "choice") "enlightened progressives", this child is no different than a tree, rodent, insect, fish, animal, microorganism or mouse ... organisms "we" (and who is 'we' mr. future death panelist?) deem inferior to 'us' (meaning: the statist marxist/socialist government party superiors).

Now that's blatant intrinsic evil for all to see.

31 posted on 12/09/2010 9:30:57 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe!)
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To: Lorianne

Hmm...I don’t think that the emotional well-being of the fetus is really the primary driver behind anti-abortion arguments. If you walk up to somebody on the street and shoot them in the head, nobody’s going to much care about the damage you did to their emotions. It’s the fact that you killed them that is the problem.


32 posted on 12/09/2010 9:31:06 AM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Lorianne
We murder organisms we deem inferior to us without hesitance every day, and I personally believe fetuses fit into this category.

Life unworthy of life? Is that the premise being presented? I've heard that expression somewhere...I remember, that is the phrase the Nazis used to try to convince the masses exterminating the handicapped was the right thing to do.

33 posted on 12/09/2010 9:31:06 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Lorianne

Disgusting. The author of this outrageous piece should be aborted immediately.


34 posted on 12/09/2010 9:33:22 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (Lock & Load-Coming to a Neighborhood near you)
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To: Outlaw Woman

See if this link works:
http://www.thetowerlight.com/2010/12/abortion-a-fetus-doesn%E2%80%99t-care/

There is a comments section but you have to register to comment.


35 posted on 12/09/2010 9:36:06 AM PST by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: Lorianne

If a murderer humanely renders his victim unconscious that victim doesn’t care if he or she is murdered, either. Does that make murder okay as long as it is done humanely?


36 posted on 12/09/2010 9:36:40 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Lorianne

It boils down to belief in the soul.If you believe there is a soul there you know it is wrong. I’m sick of the argument about rape! The baby didn’t do it. If I were to be a victim of rape, I wouldn’t blame the child or be ashamed of he or she. My first stop wouldn’t be the abortion center, my first stop would be a lawyer to make sure the rapist never got custody of MY child!!!


37 posted on 12/09/2010 9:39:08 AM PST by sanjoaquinvalley (Longtime Lady Lurker)
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To: a fool in paradise

He’s a cuckold and those who do know of his ignorance and his wife’s infidelity think him a sap and an idiot. But I guess it’s okay because he’s ignorant.

And when years later he dies of AIDs not ever knowing how he got it.


38 posted on 12/09/2010 9:41:47 AM PST by Help!
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

>>”We murder organisms we deem inferior to us without hesitance every day”

>>There was a time and place where people named “Zuckerman” fit in to that category too.

Thanks. Quickly scanning, I had missed that.


39 posted on 12/09/2010 9:44:20 AM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Ol' Sparky

That was my thought about his logic.

If the criteria is “they are not aware what is a happening to them”, that could apply to anyone. You could slip anyone a narcotic, say in food or drink, and when they are unconscious you kill them.

Following Zuckerman’s ‘logic’ (such as it is), since the person has no idea of what is happening, or about to happen, it is OK.


40 posted on 12/09/2010 9:44:26 AM PST by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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