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Scientists Challenged to Become Better Global Warming Propagandists
American Thinker ^ | 01/12/2011 | Norman Rogers

Posted on 01/12/2011 7:35:46 AM PST by Miss_Meyet

Can scientists become "Deadly Ninjas of Science Communication"? That was proposed by Chris Mooney, author of The Republican War Against Science," and a member of the board of directors of the American Geophysical Union. Mooney advocated this idea in a presentation at the Union's December 13-17 fall meeting in San Francisco.

Mooney is concerned that global warming skeptics are getting the upper hand in the ongoing debate....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gorebalwarming; gorebullwarming; hoax; palin; sarahpalin
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Another wonderful article from American Thinker, this time tearing apart the unquestioning beliefs of the Left on Global Warming.

My huge sigh at reading Mooney's comments greatly increased my carbon footprint for today...

1 posted on 01/12/2011 7:35:48 AM PST by Miss_Meyet
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To: Miss_Meyet; enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 01/12/2011 7:36:36 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: steelyourfaith

Thank you very much!


3 posted on 01/12/2011 7:38:03 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Currently between taglines)
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To: Miss_Meyet
"They aren't getting they're message out."

Sounds more like politics than science.

4 posted on 01/12/2011 7:38:56 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Sounds more like politics than science.

Exactly right!

5 posted on 01/12/2011 7:40:16 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Currently between taglines)
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To: Miss_Meyet
Well, thank you for posting that good article, and I think you can be forgiven for the carbon footprint it created.

No electrons were intentionally abused in sending this message.

6 posted on 01/12/2011 7:42:07 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Miss_Meyet

What he is saying is that they need to become more convincing and accomplished f@cking liars.


7 posted on 01/12/2011 7:43:30 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: steelyourfaith
Well, thank you for posting that good article, and I think you can be forgiven for the carbon footprint it created.

No electrons were intentionally abused in sending this message.

You are very welcome. Thanks for the absolution!

8 posted on 01/12/2011 7:45:28 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Currently between taglines)
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To: Miss_Meyet

I think this winter should just about do it for the “global warming” hoax. Those huge icicles are stakes in the heart of the blood suckers. (Can I say that?)


9 posted on 01/12/2011 7:46:27 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: Miss_Meyet

They need more Mr. Haney training.


10 posted on 01/12/2011 7:47:29 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Gaffer
What he is saying is that they need to become more convincing and accomplished f@cking liars.

A fairly faithful translation.

It alsways makes me sad to see science being treated shabbily.

11 posted on 01/12/2011 7:49:05 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Currently between taglines)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I think this winter should just about do it for the “global warming” hoax. Those huge icicles are stakes in the heart of the blood suckers. (Can I say that?)

You just did! A really pretty word picture!

12 posted on 01/12/2011 7:51:38 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: dead
They need more Mr. Haney training.

I shouldn't admit it, but I have lead a sheltered life, and I'm not following you---all I can think of is Green Acres, but, I don't think that's right.

13 posted on 01/12/2011 7:54:38 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: Miss_Meyet
Carbon footprint? Meh. It's official. Two feet of global warming in most of NE.


14 posted on 01/12/2011 7:55:39 AM PST by Daffynition ( Live EACH DAY as if it were your last, but EXPECT that there still may be a tomorrow.)
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To: Miss_Meyet

To all, I apologize for the expletive inference. But the left’s audacity sometimes warrants nothing less.


15 posted on 01/12/2011 7:56:50 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Daffynition
Carbon footprint? Meh. It's official. Two feet of global warming in most of NE.

LOL!

Nice picture, thanks for the chuckle.

16 posted on 01/12/2011 7:59:26 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: Miss_Meyet
all I can think of is Green Acres, but, I don't think that's right.

Of course that's right! Mr. Haney was the slimey smooth talking salesman trying to peddle ridiculous junk to Mr. Douglas.

17 posted on 01/12/2011 8:01:01 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Gaffer

It’s Ok.


18 posted on 01/12/2011 8:01:05 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: dead
Of course that's right! Mr. Haney was the slimey smooth talking salesman trying to peddle ridiculous junk to Mr. Douglas.

Oh, wait, of course I'm right...

I just don't remember the training part...

19 posted on 01/12/2011 8:04:59 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: Miss_Meyet

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE... NO MATTER HOW YOU TELL IT... YOU ARE STILL A LIAR!

LLS


20 posted on 01/12/2011 8:05:35 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Miss_Meyet
**Lovin'** this propaganda!


21 posted on 01/12/2011 8:08:19 AM PST by Daffynition ( Live EACH DAY as if it were your last, but EXPECT that there still may be a tomorrow.)
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To: All
I must leave now. I will reply later if need be.

Have a globally warm and wonderful day.

22 posted on 01/12/2011 8:12:53 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: Daffynition

I am loving it, too!


23 posted on 01/12/2011 8:14:02 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: Daffynition

Why...why...what’s wrong with you?

That’s an exceedingly fine suit of clothes the emperor is wearing!

And, welcome to Warmists in Winterland, where things are not always as they seem.


24 posted on 01/12/2011 8:16:29 AM PST by Walrus (My congressman got booted this year --- how about yours?)
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To: Miss_Meyet

The scientist’s job is to make conclusions based on provable facts.

Propaganda is not their job.

If the facts are not supporting their conclusion, then they need to re-evaluate their conclusions.

As far as I can tell, this ha not been done by the scientists with the agendas.

They should not be called scientists any more.


25 posted on 01/12/2011 8:17:22 AM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: Walrus
Cities are employing day-laborers to hand shovel...jobs a global warmist won't do. ;)


26 posted on 01/12/2011 8:20:43 AM PST by Daffynition ( Live EACH DAY as if it were your last, but EXPECT that there still may be a tomorrow.)
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To: Miss_Meyet
Be safe! Stay **Warm**!!


27 posted on 01/12/2011 8:24:16 AM PST by Daffynition ( Live EACH DAY as if it were your last, but EXPECT that there still may be a tomorrow.)
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To: Daffynition

Have you been sneakin’ around my driveway? ... And it is still snowing here.


28 posted on 01/12/2011 8:28:08 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I think this winter should just about do it for the “global warming” hoax.

Hoax it is, but trust me, they will not go away.

29 posted on 01/12/2011 8:39:20 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: MHGinTN
It's tapering off now..gonna take a couple days for the roads to get cleared. BIG BUCKS for OT for the drivers.


30 posted on 01/12/2011 8:40:12 AM PST by Daffynition ( Live EACH DAY as if it were your last, but EXPECT that there still may be a tomorrow.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Those huge icicles are stakes in the heart of the blood suckers. (Can I say that?)

Thanks a lot, pal. Your violent analogy has pushed me over the edge. I am now compelled to seek out a public figure and impale him or her with a stake. I hope you can live with yourself.

31 posted on 01/12/2011 8:54:13 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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How can they not be getting their message out. Name one show on the discovery or history channel these days that no matter what the subject matter is, the last 10 minutes are not devoted to a diatribe about how the effects of global warming are going to destroy all the cool stuff you just saw.

All newspapers hype global warming all the time. Scientific American, and Discover magazine are gigantic are non-stop hype machines.

Every classroom for every grade from kindergarten through college preaches this stuff non-stop, even if the class is not a “science” course.

In all of these places there is never another viewpoint contrary to the politically correct one.

The market is beyond over-saturated already, and they want to kick it up a notch.


32 posted on 01/12/2011 9:07:33 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Daffynition
Be safe! Stay **Warm**!!

:^) You, too! Cute picture!

33 posted on 01/12/2011 9:21:41 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: dsrtsage
Every classroom for every grade from kindergarten through college preaches this stuff non-stop, even if the class is not a “science” course.

That's the sad part.

34 posted on 01/12/2011 9:24:51 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: Miss_Meyet
Scientists Challenged to Become Better Global Warming Propagandists

Propaganda is not supposed to be part of a scientist's repertoire. A scientist uses facts, real data, to argue the case. It's not about popularity, and it's not about convincing rhetoric or propaganda.

If no one else agrees, a real scientist responds, "Eppur si muove" (nevertheless, it - the earth - does move). Real science is never settled and always open to questioning based on data. Even if everyone else accepts something as obvious and fundamental as Newton's Laws of motion and of gravity, a real scientist questions those "Laws" and says things like, "I sometimes ask myself how it came about that I was the one to develop the theory of relativity. The reason, I think, is that a normal adult never stops to think about problems of space and time. These are things which he has thought about as a child. But my intellectual development was retarded,as a result of which I began to wonder about space and time only when I had already grown up."

It's sad that real science seems to be dying in our postmodern, feelings-centered world.

35 posted on 01/12/2011 9:25:53 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
...Propaganda is not their job...

Bingo!

36 posted on 01/12/2011 9:32:40 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: Pollster1
Propaganda is not supposed to be part of a scientist's repertoire. A scientist uses facts, real data, to argue the case. It's not about popularity, and it's not about convincing rhetoric or propaganda.

You left out my favorite, "consensus", as if truly scientific results were something to be agreed upon by a cheerful, harmonious group.

...It's sad that real science seems to be dying in our postmodern, feelings-centered world.

Indeed. Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

37 posted on 01/12/2011 9:44:47 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: Miss_Meyet
Another wonderful article from American Thinker, this time tearing apart the unquestioning beliefs of the Left on Global Warming.

If you think it's that good, then please post their commentaries in News/Activism, not Chat, and check editorial so it can hang in that sidebar. More eyeballs will be able to catch it there.

38 posted on 01/12/2011 3:18:42 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Miss_Meyet

Yeah, that’s what they need to do; TALK about it some more! /S


39 posted on 01/12/2011 3:24:02 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: neverdem
If you think it's that good, then please post their commentaries in News/Activism, not Chat, and check editorial so it can hang in that sidebar. More eyeballs will be able to catch it there.

Noted.
Thank you.

I have seen other posters chastised for posting things as News, so, quite frankly, I was not sure where to place the article.

40 posted on 01/12/2011 4:02:19 PM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: Miss_Meyet
I have seen other posters chastised for posting things as News, so, quite frankly, I was not sure where to place the article.

Organizing global warming agitprop by the left is definitely news. This isn't science. It's politics, schemes to raise taxes, make money and wreck the economy with expensive energy.

41 posted on 01/12/2011 11:21:55 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Organizing global warming agitprop by the left is definitely news. This isn't science. It's politics, schemes to raise taxes, make money and wreck the economy with expensive energy.

Thanks, neverdem!
I will certainly try to do better next time.

42 posted on 01/13/2011 3:03:23 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
I know that you weren't speaking to me, but I can't help but laugh at your comment.

Thanks very much!

43 posted on 01/13/2011 3:13:41 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Unstoppable Global Warming---Every 1500 years--S.Fred Singer & Dennis T. Avery)
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To: Miss_Meyet; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; Carry_Okie; ...
Good job...need more posters on the whole damn Global Warming Hoax....

I see you are fairly new...so welcome...there are multiple people trying to spread the word via ping lists....and the use of various keywords...

I like globalwarminghoax myself...others have their favorites...

But collectively we put up a lot of stuff....tough to read it all!

I am focusing on this clown...FR Thread:

It's 'the hottest year on record', as long as you don't take its temperature (Hansen again )

44 posted on 01/14/2011 10:38:35 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: steelyourfaith
No electrons were intentionally abused in sending this message.

Now how do you know that....LOL...were they asked about their feelings?

45 posted on 01/14/2011 10:40:10 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

ROFL....subdued of course in light of the serious moment.


46 posted on 01/14/2011 10:44:31 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good job...need more posters on the whole damn Global Warming Hoax....

Thank you! I actually met Dr Singer (one of the authors of Unstoppable Global Warming--every 1500 years) at a teacher's conference.

Thanks for the link to the "clown thread" :)

47 posted on 01/14/2011 10:56:02 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Currently between taglines)
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From the comments at AT to the article:

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Posted by: E. Goldstein  

Jan 12, 07:14 AM

To understand the attitude of these scientists read Thomas Kuhn's "History of Scientific Discovery." Scientists do not try to falsify their paradigm. Instead they spend their careers reinforcing what they were taught. When a new theory is offered they always oppose it until forced to change by facts they cannot ignore. Today there is no absolute proof global warming is wrong and the state still pays them to say it is happening. The farce will continue.

48 posted on 01/14/2011 10:58:34 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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More from the comments:

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Posted by: openeyes  

Jan 12, 07:14 AM

Look up the definition of a Ninja! Based on the recent comments by the MSM this is incitement to assassination of those who do not believe in the whole global warming schtick! I think an immediate FBI investigation into Chris Mooney is called for...

49 posted on 01/14/2011 11:00:38 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Oh, PS: Thanks for reminding me--I want to look up the record temps for this date. On the local news this morning, the weatherman was standing in front of the "record cold" temperature and year, so that all you could see was the "record warm" temp of 65 degrees for this date.

I am quite sure that Fox News's Steve Doocy would never block part of his weather map.

50 posted on 01/14/2011 11:01:19 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Currently between taglines)
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