No, not even close. As a matter o'fact I just replaced the Sarah Palin 2012 and Viva la Palin stickers on my Jeep's rear window with these:
...along with matching yard signs.
Posted on 01/21/2011 4:10:24 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
What part of my post is contradictory to fact?
I assert that a sequence of Presidents were all more than 36 years of age. Am I wrong?
Since I---and not you---are around these young people every day,
Don't presume to tell me what I am or am not around.
they DO perceive Obama as "one of them" generation-wise.
They may well "perceive" that. I never said they didn't. I said that, like it or not, perceive it or not, admit it or not, Zero is old enough to be their father.
this conservative does not have his opinions molded by the Dem Party,
I never said otherwise. I said "conservatives, even supposedly adult, mature conservatives such as inhabit this forum can have their opinions molded by the Democrat Party Propaganda Machine at CNNNBCCBSABCETC." If you haven't seen examples of such conservatives, I suggest that you open your eyes.
No, not even close. As a matter o'fact I just replaced the Sarah Palin 2012 and Viva la Palin stickers on my Jeep's rear window with these:
...along with matching yard signs.
She's already done that.
I know many young people and not many think of Obama as "one of them." Most young people I know are wise enough to see through Obama. Also when I inquire, most don't view Sarah negatively. I will state that I am a strong Sarah supporter. It is apparent from most of your posts you don't support Sarah. Your opposition of Sarah isn't entirely based on rational observations of humanity. There is an emotional bias against her that colors your opinion. There is nothing wrong with that.
I am confident Sarah will battle and win against the RINOs, the GOP, and the rest of the weak willed Republicans to win the nomination. She will then destroy Obama in the general.
exactly...
It's the speech cadence problem. It has never been corrected and it makes her difficult to understand. People just do not want to work that hard to get info. Shallow, unfair, yes..but there it is.
You're right, but that's actually not what I was actually talking about -- I should have been more clear.
I know a lot of young folks, and I've learned that they've got excellent BS meters for people who are trying to sell themselves as a particular type of person. Sarah Palin is one such.
(And you might be surprised to realize that the "global warming" stuff isn't selling nearly as well as it used to....)
Interestingly, they're also notably silent on Obama now .... back when he was running for president, they were all very caught up in the "hope and change" thing, and they spoke glowingly of him. But as with Palin's supporters now, it was really only the idea of Obama that they liked; they projected their own hopes and desires onto a blank slate. The reality has intruded now ... in terms of his chances for re-election, that's an indicator of the biggest problem he's got: he can't count on people pinning their hopes on him this time.
(Fair disclosure: I think Sarah Palin is an opportunistic con artist who has no more business than Obama did, in flirting with the presidency.)
It makes here irritating, too.
But the fact that she is quite unwilling to address it, and in fact seems to have stepped it up, suggests something that it is not at all shallow and unfair: it suggests a lack of seriousness, and an unwholesome love of the attention she gets from her amen chorus.
When liberals shriek that they want Sarah Palin to go away, what they are saying is they want what she stands for to go away. They want a pseudo-lib to be the standard bearer for Republicans. They said the same stuff about Reagan.
OK ... yes, children are often very good at distinguishing a genuine person from a phony. I think that has something to do with being a child, and being "innocent" ... and is not new. I can recall pegging certain politicians as incompetent phonies when I was a child.
I appreciate the "Fair disclosure".
Well, it's not like I've exactly kept it a secret.... ;-)
Just tell them they don’t like strong women. That’s what I told my three lib sisters when they ranted about how much they hated Ann Coulter. Palin is the new object of their hatred, although they still go off on Coulter.
I don’t keep track of which FReepers are pro/anti Palin/Huckabee/Romney/DeMint/Whatever.
That's a healthy policy.
Yes, that's true about the polls in the Fall of 2008. But the real question is, how accurate were the polls in January of 2007 in predicting who would be elected president? And of course the answer is, they weren't.
"Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix)
..."slips" and "melts", too. ;)
I don’t doubt that when you go speak to colleges and universities around the country that you have your fair share of Palin detractors. But to say that all young, college age people object strongly to her presidency isn’t true. I have friends who go to Notre Dame who are Palin supporters, I have a buddy out at The University of Iowa who was the former head of the College Republicans who is thinking of campaigning for her. I know people at The University of Illinois who are Palin supporters.
Of course there are people who don’t like her and I understand that, but you are painting a picture that there are 0 supporters out there for her in the millenial generation. This is not the case I would say from my experience that it is a more divided camp, and it’s still very early there’s no reason why she can’t win over some of those students.
The "kids" in 2008 voted overwhelmingly for Obama.
What an amazing "BS meter" they must have.
Sure she can win them over. They are conservatives. But that's the point. WHY SHOULD SHE HAVE TO "WIN OVER" CONSERVATIVE KIDS? WHY DON'T THEY AUTOMATICALLY GRAVITATE TO HER?
Based on limited "polling" of them, I tend to find that the more "Christian" they see themselves, the less likely they are to be Palin supporters and more likely to be Huck supporters. So your experience is that 100% of conservative college-age kids is that Palin is their choice?
My views of who and who doesn't support Palin are based ENTIRELY on a) polling (which no one here likes if it doesn't comport to their world view, and which I admit can be badly flawed at times . . . but which was right in 2006 and 2008), and conversations with young people virtually every day (because I am at a college where I interact with college kids). Since they know I'm a conservative, I also have more conversations with College Republicans than I do with College Democrats. I also speak around the country, usually to either Tea Party groups (wherein Palin is far from the obvious choice---popular, but not overwhelmingly so) and to college groups. So I think I get a pretty good cross section of conservative America, all over the country.
Emotionally, if anything, I'm drawn to Palin. I'd love nothing better than to stick it to the libs. But the mere fact that she drives them crazy is NOT sufficient cause for making her president, and especially not so over perhaps other candidates. Who are those other candidates? Right now, I don't see any I'd pick over her. But right now she'd also lose to Obama in a general election, perhaps not quite as badly as McCain did, but still lose. That might change in two years, but we shouldn't pretend that things aren't what they are right now.
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