Skip to comments.Machine Guns WEREN'T Banned? (Hughes Amendment fraud by Charlie Rangel)
Posted on 01/27/2011 10:17:25 AM PST by The Comedian
Background: In 1986 an amendment called "The Hughes Amendment" was allegedly attached to wider firearms legislation in The House and passed. This amendment made unlawful the private ownership of machine guns manufactured after 1986.
Today, you can own a machine gun, but the Hughes Amendment, H.A.#777, effectively created a "sinking stock" of such weapons that will eventually dwindle to zero as they wear out. Hundreds of people have been convicted of violating this law since, some when their weapons have malfunctioned rather than being intentionally modified.
There's a problem with this law, however. It appears that the amendment was never actually passed.
Archival footage of the actual House session has been found and is reproduced here.
Note who's standing up there with the gavel. That's Chairman Rangel. Yes, that Charlie Rangel. And by the way, you can see quite-clearly that The House Committee at the time was damn close to being in full-on revolt at the time Rangel was allegedly "Chairing" it!
Watch the video. It is quite clear that not only did the voice vote on the amendment fail but in addition it appears, if someone hasn't tampered with this video, that there was an electronic recorded vote that went down on the question as well. (more at link)
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Law or no the BATFE passed regs that everyone now pretends have the weight of law. And the convictions show his to be true. Wonder if the convictions are for breaking the law as “passed” (or not) or for violating the regulations as written?
Wow. Does this mean that I can finish the build of my 1919A4 without having to pay that nasty tax? Well, I can dream.
We're going to a BBQ and bringing our unlicensed Class 3 toys...
(Thanks for bringing this story to my attention earlier in the week, Dead)
All of these “must see” (good) video links are posted while I am working!
Yet another ping for myself to view later.
There’s a bubba over on ARFCOM that is planning on talking to a couple lawyers and see if he can’t find a way to get “standing” on this issue and run it up the Courts. Hopefully, without getting his dog shot in the process.
What a Joke that was.
Mr. Chairman an amendment for the Chairman to take that gavel and shove it.
I wonder how many other “laws” on the books were fraudulently passed by Dems?
Wouldn’t the easy route be to find someone who was convicted for posession of a post 1986 weapon and go to the court to get the conviction overturned?
So far, no one up the chain in the judiciary wants to hear his appeals.
All for a malfunctioning rifle he loaded to someone else in working condition.
If the video is accurate the amendment to the Voelker (sp)Substitute did not pass but the “Voelker Substitute as amended” did. I don’t know if there were other amendments prior to the vote on this one but it sure looks like the subject amendment never made it to the Voelker Substitute.
Well now... “belts” certainly are NOT magazines OR clips. ;)
Don’t tell me that Rangel or a close buddy is about to be charged with unlawful private ownership of machine guns manufactured after 1986.
So, was the first vote or the second vote for the Hughes Amendment. I believe that the third vote was for the overall bill.
This was a railroad job from the start.
I wonder how many other laws on the books were fraudulently passed by Dems?
Look at it the other way around: How many other laws on the books were properly passed by Dems?
This story of the fake voice-vote has been common knowledge since 1986. The RATS knew they couldn’t pass a machine gun ban, so they faked it, and the RINOS didn’t have the guts to contest it.
exzactely...FOPA was 'needed to protect gun owners from/dealers from past pnumbras of gun 'control' and was the perfect vehicle to slide this sh!t sandwich into...
from the rangel *smirk* and and drunk o'neils ramrod job of ignoring procedure, it smells of a well choreographed sleight of hand to make the 'nays' *think* that they had won the day...
pity they didnt scream bloody murder once the truth was known then, since plenty of bloody murder has been committed in the name of 'the law' in the last 24 yrs...not the least of which was the branch dividian BBQ which killed a lot of kids...
wow, im slam firing in that last post...hope i dont get jacked up on the 1A version of hughs...
Now we can.
Better late than never...
Yeah, and do 10 years in a federal pen like one of my friends!!
That’s why that side plate is still sitting at 80% finished.
It’s a helluva thing that side plate is still sitting at 80%
when you have every right to fnish it!!!
We haven’t been a country of laws for a while, but regulations. The BATF boys will kill you and your dog if you build one.
Not likely to succeed. Google "enrolled bill doctrine."
Look at it the proper way: how many laws on the books don’t mean spit, because Dem JUDGES ignored the clear meaning of the statutes and substituted new “interpretations” that became controlling “case law”?
A government only lasts while people still believe in it. Once that is gone, they can only retain power through fear and force. Guess which side of that equation we are currently on?
Hmmm things like the NICS implementation law wasnt the idea that the data for those checks to be destroyed Immediately?
My apologies if my earlier comment sounded wrong by the way I worded it my intention was to point out that it seems like a lot of law passed by the dems is by underhanded methods things like Obamacare.
But you have a good point it does seem like if the dems cant pass their agenda by legislative action they use judicial action which his often contrary to the will of the people or the Constitution.