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(Vanity)Handgun Purchase with a new twist
The Devils Lair | 1/27/11 | JerseyDvl

Posted on 02/27/2011 2:26:27 PM PST by JerseyDvl

I always find the process of purchasing a weapon interesting since it is a right guaranteed to all citizens assuming they are not felons, drug addicts, illegal aliens, domestic abusers, or mentally unstable....supposedly.

My experience this time around, which was my 5th, seemed to be different in a few ways and I wantd to share it and solicit opinions from my favorite 2nd ammendment defenders.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: 2nd; amendment; banglist; constitution
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To: Klaatu Barada Nikto
I believe that in the states that require it, the casing must be sent to some state agency at the time of purchase.

That sure is a joke. Go to the range and pick up a casing of the same caliber and send that in.

21 posted on 02/27/2011 3:40:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: yarddog

Ok, I understand that. I have both kinds of rifles. My question is: can I shoot a .22WRF in a rifle chambered for .22LR?


22 posted on 02/27/2011 3:40:32 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: ReverendJames
can I shoot a .22WRF in a rifle chambered for .22LR?

No, sorry.
23 posted on 02/27/2011 3:45:26 PM PST by verum ago (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: TigersEye

The gun shop sends it.


24 posted on 02/27/2011 3:47:25 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ReverendJames

Check to see if Rossi still makes the slide action rifle you are looking for


25 posted on 02/27/2011 3:48:29 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: ReverendJames

iirc, the wrf is longer than a .22lr and probably will not chamber correctly. I’d be reluctant to try to fire in a .22 mag. best thing to do is put on a shelf and find a friend with a winchester Model 90 in .22 wrf or a model 62 in .22wrf.


26 posted on 02/27/2011 3:48:54 PM PST by ol' hoghead (He is not here; for he is risen.)
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To: ReverendJames

My post 19 said clearly that you cannot use a WRF in a rifle chambered for .22LR.

There is no danger at all in firing a WRF in a magnum chamber. The WRF is a much lower pressure round. I am going on memory and could be wrong but I think the WRF uses bullets with a .224 diameter. They are pure lead and often shoot extremely well in .22 Mag guns which I think use a .223 diameter, same as many centerfire .22’s.

I once did a “kitchen table” rechambering of my old Remington 514 to WRF. It worked and was far more accurate than it was in .22LR but that actually was a bit dangerous.


27 posted on 02/27/2011 3:56:38 PM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Very interesting info. Thanks yarddog.


28 posted on 02/27/2011 3:59:31 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ReverendJames
As to the .22mag gun, I'm looking for a pistol.

The Kel-Tec PMR-30 looks interesting. Thirty rounds in a single magazine that fits in the grip!

29 posted on 02/27/2011 4:00:10 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: eXe
The 5 RH Is five groves right handed twist (I assume)

5 inches for 360° of twist, however many grooves there are. It's easy to count grooves, but it's a bit harder to measure the twist rate (though a marked cleaning rod will do that just fine.)

30 posted on 02/27/2011 4:05:47 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Wut? Everybody here is saying that they are getting it and it is up to them to send it to the state.


31 posted on 02/27/2011 4:06:09 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: yarddog
Sorry, but this is what I read from your post #19

"A .22 mag is both too large and too long to fit into a .22LR chamber."

My question is: I have .22WMR ammo. Since the diameter is the same but the round is shorter can I still fire it in a .22mag rifle, or, can you fire it in a .22LR rifle? While waiting for some answers I pulled one of each round from a box and noticed that the .22WRF is shorter. Can it still be fired in a .22mag semi-auto rifle? It is appearing from yours and other posters that it can be used in my Marlin .22mag. I just spent $30 for three boxes and can't take the back even though the salesperson said they were .22mag.

Anyway, I appreciate all the help.

32 posted on 02/27/2011 4:17:39 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: Charles Martel

Nice looking and not too expensive. Thanks!


33 posted on 02/27/2011 4:20:29 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: Charles Martel; ReverendJames

wiki:

.22 WRF ammunition is periodically offered by commercial makers for use in the old guns.[1] It can be fired in any rifle chambered for the more powerful .22 WMR.[1]


34 posted on 02/27/2011 4:22:15 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: yarddog

except for the brand spankin new keltec pistol, there is no such thing as a 22wmr semi auto. IIRC.


35 posted on 02/27/2011 4:24:16 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

Just found a website that featured the exact brand of ammo I bought. The bottom line of the article said you can’t use it in a rifle chambered for .22WRM because the .22WRF uses JHP’s. Not sure why but I have JHP’s in .22WRM specifically for the larger varmints that come up my way (coyote and bobcat).


36 posted on 02/27/2011 4:25:34 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: yarddog

I think you are confusing 22WMR and 22WRF. They are not the same. WMR is to WRF what 22long is to 22short.


37 posted on 02/27/2011 4:26:11 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: TigersEye

You are not understanding. The gun comes from the factory with a spent cartridge IN A SEALED ENVELOPE. The gun dealer sends THE SEALED ENVELOPE to the appropriate state agency. The gun owner will never see it unless he lives in a state that doesn’t require it. In that case, the SEALED ENVELOPE is left with the gun...because there is no place to send it to.


38 posted on 02/27/2011 4:28:50 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: ReverendJames

I think your error is you think they are the same diameter. Both the case and bullet for the .22 mag are larger than a .22 LR.

If you measure the case for a .22WRF and a .22Mag also known as a .22MRF, there probably isn’t any difference tho I think the WRF may be something like a thousandth of an inch larger. It doesn’t really matter as the difference if any is too small to matter. On the other hand a .22LR is about 3 thousandths of an inch smaller in diameter than the magnum. That is enough difference to matter especially since the mag is much longer too.

A .22 long Rifle will fit loosely into either a WRF or WMR chamber and might even fire. If it does the case will split and probably throw powder back in your face.

On the other hand neither a WRF or WMR will not fit into a .22 LR chamber at all.


39 posted on 02/27/2011 4:29:42 PM PST by yarddog
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To: ReverendJames

nonsense

I have lots of 22WMR ammo. some of it is hollow point and some of it isn’t.


40 posted on 02/27/2011 4:33:02 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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