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Steve Jobs Wasn't Lying: Apple's iPad Market Share Was Really More Than 90% Last Year
Business Insider ^ | March 7, 2011 | Sammy the Walrus IV

Posted on 03/07/2011 6:07:21 PM PST by Swordmaker

Ever since Steve Jobs unveiled the iPad 2, people have busy trying to compare his statements to the truth, especially this one: 

“Many have said (iPad) is the most successful consumer product ever launched. Over 90% market share and our competitors were flummoxed.”

Where was Steve getting this 90% market share data point? Strategy Analytics showed iPad’s market share at 75% in 4Q10 and falling fast. 

The thing about Steve Jobs is that he rarely outright lies, instead opting to look at data in a way that he thinks makes most sense and which contains some shred of validity.  I don’t think Steve was far off from the truth saying iPad had 90% market share. Using conservative figures and assumptions, I calculate iPad’s tablet market share at 90% in 4Q10, and nearly 95% for 2010. 

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1 posted on 03/07/2011 6:07:25 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker

It doesn’t matter. It’s apple. It’s edgy, hip and cool.


2 posted on 03/07/2011 6:11:58 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
Steve Jobs wasn't lying! the iPad did take better than 90% of the tablet market in 4Q2010— PING!

Please, No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!

Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
 PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

 


Steve Jobs Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

3 posted on 03/07/2011 6:12:58 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: ModelBreaker
It doesn’t matter. It’s apple. It’s edgy, hip and cool.

And it just works... ;^)>

4 posted on 03/07/2011 6:15:07 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: ModelBreaker
It doesn’t matter. It’s apple. It’s edgy, hip and cool.

And it just works... ;^)>

5 posted on 03/07/2011 6:15:18 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: ModelBreaker
doesn’t matter. It’s apple. It’s edgy, hip and cool.

I Know people who have it but dont know why or what to do with it hehe. I do like the i phone though

6 posted on 03/07/2011 6:20:03 PM PST by X-FID
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To: Swordmaker

Right now, it might be 95 percent of the tablet market.

But it won’t be in a couple of years, once the Android market ramps up.


7 posted on 03/07/2011 6:27:15 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: ModelBreaker

>It doesn’t matter. It’s apple. It’s edgy, hip and cool.<

the Ipod Nano sucks.


8 posted on 03/07/2011 6:36:29 PM PST by max americana
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To: Jonty30

I have an Android phone and I’m reading FR on my iPad. How’s that for versatility?! :)


9 posted on 03/07/2011 6:40:52 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Don't retreat...reload!.....and no, I'm not changing my tagline! Pray for Sarah and her family)
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To: Swordmaker
And Leo Laporte says he was lying.
10 posted on 03/07/2011 6:43:56 PM PST by TomServo
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To: Jonty30
But it won’t be in a couple of years, once the Android market ramps up.

Probably not. But they kept saying that about the iPods... and how the next MP3 player from XYZ company was the next iPod killer... never happened. Even Microsoft's Zune couldn't unseat it. Finally what brought down the sales of the iPod was the iPhone and other smartphones unifying cell phones and music players in one device.

The thing is that it's not just a DEVICE that has to compete, it's a device plus the ecoSYSTEM that goes with it... the stuff that ties in with it. Apps, accessories, devices that transparently work with the tablet without jumping through hoops to get them to work. That is what make the iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad ecoSYSTEM harder to compete with another phone/player/tablet. So many things are already iOS compatible and not compatible with the competition.

11 posted on 03/07/2011 6:46:00 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: CAluvdubya

Multi-talented. :)

I want an Android tablet because Sony is releasing its entire Playstation library.

However, if, as rumour has it, that Apple convinces Nintendo to release its library unto the Ipad, I’d be so hopelessly indecisive.


12 posted on 03/07/2011 6:49:19 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: Swordmaker

That is where Android is going as well.

I would love it if the tablets could eventually replace textbooks and paper.


13 posted on 03/07/2011 6:53:15 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: BobSimons

Isn’t this about the time you show up and make some dumb ass comment?


14 posted on 03/07/2011 6:54:32 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Swordmaker

Did you double post from your iPad?

Or did you use your MacBook?

Just curious which tool you screwed up with.


15 posted on 03/07/2011 6:55:26 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Swordmaker
That's because there was effectively NO competitors to the iPad until the Samsung Galaxy Tab arrived late in 2010.

But this year will be different. The Motorola Xoom is only the very first among many tablet computers running Google Android 3.0 ("Honeycomb"), and within the next few months we'll see the Blackberry Playbook running a QNX variant and HP TouchPad running WebOS. As such, I felt that the incremental improvements on the iPad 2 may not be enough to keep these new tablets at bay.

16 posted on 03/07/2011 6:56:57 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: TomServo
And Leo Laporte says he was lying.

So you agree that the VP of Samsung really did say that the "The sell in of the Galaxy Tab was quite large, but the sell through was smooth. . .", as the spin was added after the Samsung marketing flacks had a panic attack and told her to fix it a week after the fact, and not what was originally heard, and quoted, by everyone at the press conference "sell through of the Galaxy Tab saw small..."?

Hmmmm... "sell through was smooth..." What a strange turn of phrase... especially with that "but" in there... To me, and a lot of others, "smooth" just doesn't seem to follow "large" no does it? Especially when independent reports show that "small" is a much more accurate word to use for the retail sales of the Galaxy Tab...

17 posted on 03/07/2011 6:58:05 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: CAluvdubya

“I have an Android phone and I’m reading FR on my iPad. How’s that for versatility?! :)”

The tech version of reaching across the aisle!


18 posted on 03/07/2011 7:00:44 PM PST by aquila48
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To: hole_n_one
in re Bob: "Isn’t this about the time you show up and make some dumb ass comment?"

He hasn't got his orders from his handlers yet. Give it time.

19 posted on 03/07/2011 7:03:47 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Did you double post from your iPad?

Nope, came from an iMac. But earlier today I got a double post from a Dell at a client's office. Something is going on at FR. Seen a lot of double posts. I think there's a Proxy Server sitting between us and FR doing something. I've seen double posts with zero seconds between them.

That being said, I've had double posts occur several hours apart from my iPhone and iPad when I've gone through cell tower breaks a couple times... Lost the signal as I was uploading the post while I was riding in a car before I received the acknowledgement from FR... then gained the signal back several hours later and the browser resends the same reply. ;^)>

20 posted on 03/07/2011 7:04:02 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker
> the iPad did take better than 90% of the tablet market in 4Q2010

Of course, "taking" 90% of a market is a different achievement from "expanding" a market to 1000% of its prior size, which is more what Apple did here.

That is, if the prior-to-iPad market was 100 units, and the iPad sold 900 units, then Apple has 90% of the resulting market -- yet they haven't taken a single unit away from the prior number.

I'm only quibbling about the word "take". What Apple did was expand the market by about a factor of 10.

IMO, sales market percentages are among some of the most awful, misleading, and pointless statistics in existence. They have to be treated with suspicion. :)

21 posted on 03/07/2011 7:05:30 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Swordmaker

It seems like yesterday that the Apple naysayers were laughing at the name iPad, saying it sounds like a sanitary napkin. They said there was no market for a product that is between a smartphone and a laptop but is neither. As usual Apple proved them wrong by reawakening a dead concept by improving it and making it attractive, fun, and full of unrealized uses.

They aren’t through, either.


22 posted on 03/07/2011 7:07:41 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government!)
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To: Jonty30

RE: But it won’t be in a couple of years, once the Android market ramps up.

And besides quality, that is why Apple continues to win. When the non-Apples produce their Zunes, android phones (which suck compared to the iPhone...I’ve had both) and stink pads Apple will already be creating another market with something else.

You can’t win when you are on continually on the defense.


23 posted on 03/07/2011 7:13:59 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: Swordmaker

I’m just saying thet Apple is a cult and Jobs is the high priest who, like his fanatics will do and say anything to protect their “religious artifacts”...


24 posted on 03/07/2011 7:16:01 PM PST by TomServo
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To: Swordmaker

Depends on how you define the specific market, no?


25 posted on 03/07/2011 7:17:38 PM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Swordmaker
P.S...but they make great toys...:-)
26 posted on 03/07/2011 7:18:10 PM PST by TomServo
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To: TomServo
I’m just saying thet Apple is a cult and Jobs is the high priest who, like his fanatics will do and say anything to protect their “religious artifacts”...

Thank you for your opinion. It, as usual, is of the stink bomb variety.

27 posted on 03/07/2011 7:20:00 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker
“Many have said (iPad) is the most successful consumer product ever launched"

These numbers are for "consumer products" Most if not all the major competitors have both a consumer and business lines of products. I ate at a restaurant that used HP iPAQ Pocket PC a few years back to take orders. It was not a "consumer market" device. Before the iPad there wasn't much of a "consumer market" for the product.

28 posted on 03/07/2011 7:20:42 PM PST by ThomasThomas (it said the speeling was OK)
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To: Swordmaker
“Many have said (iPad) is the most successful consumer product ever launched"

These numbers are for "consumer products" Most if not all the major competitors have both a consumer and business lines of products. I ate at a restaurant that used HP iPAQ Pocket PC a few years back to take orders. It was not a "consumer market" device. Before the iPad there wasn't much of a "consumer market" for the product.

29 posted on 03/07/2011 7:20:56 PM PST by ThomasThomas (it said the speeling was OK)
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To: TomServo
P.S...but they make great toys...:-)

Better...

30 posted on 03/07/2011 7:20:56 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Jonty30

I think Ipad has the market for the time being. They’ve got the best product, best software and best word of mouth. And now the Ipad 2 looks to have fixed the flaws of the first model.

The schools are starting to adopt it as the standard as are a number of businesses.

The problem with Macs not catching on was because the price was higher and the businesses wouldn’t adopt. Here the Ipad price seems right on the money for this type of device and the large users are adopting it quickly. I do see this more like the MP3 situation from 8-10 years ago where the Ipod took over the category versus the Mac/PC competition of the last 25-years.


31 posted on 03/07/2011 7:21:59 PM PST by SteveAustin
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To: ThomasThomas
These numbers are for "consumer products" Most if not all the major competitors have both a consumer and business lines of products. I ate at a restaurant that used HP iPAQ Pocket PC a few years back to take orders. It was not a "consumer market" device. Before the iPad there wasn't much of a "consumer market" for the product.

Uh, an article I just read said that a large percentage of the iPads sold were sold to government and Enterprise ... that makes them not consumer products... the iPad is a business tool now, as well as a consumer device. Better than 80% of the fortune 500 are either deploying them or piloting programs to deploy them. Some are buying them by the thousands.

32 posted on 03/07/2011 7:23:51 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker

Hey - don’t get me wrong...I love my iPod...really. But Apple is not to be taken seriously with the possible exception of music and graphics...


33 posted on 03/07/2011 7:30:18 PM PST by TomServo
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To: X-FID
I do like the i phone though

I just unloaded my iPhone and got a Blackberry Torch. The Torch is awesome (and I'll never have make a bleeping appointment to visit the bleeping apple store again).

34 posted on 03/07/2011 7:38:08 PM PST by Entrepreneur (In hoc signo vinces)
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To: TomServo
I’m just saying thet Apple is a cult and Jobs is the high priest who, like his fanatics will do and say anything to protect their “religious artifacts”...


35 posted on 03/07/2011 7:47:39 PM PST by Entrepreneur (In hoc signo vinces)
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To: Entrepreneur
"(and I'll never have make a bleeping appointment to visit the bleeping apple store again)."

Yep. You really fixed that one.

(Is there even a store for you to "visit" now?)

36 posted on 03/07/2011 7:52:24 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: ModelBreaker
It doesn’t matter. It’s apple. It’s edgy, hip and cool.

No. It just works.
37 posted on 03/07/2011 7:54:01 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: Swordmaker
And it just works... ;^)>

Oops. You beat me.
38 posted on 03/07/2011 7:58:25 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

The advantage Apple has in its more closed architecture is more control over what goes on the Ipad, so things do run more smoothly.

However, with the more open architacture of Android, you can have more options in the end as to what you can put on it.

It’s all in your preference.


39 posted on 03/07/2011 8:11:59 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
My daughter works in a book store in a medium size Cal university and she says the drop in text books sales is astonishing. The lost revenue is being partially replaced by Apple product sales including iPads...

I would love it if the tablets could eventually replace textbooks and paper.

40 posted on 03/07/2011 8:17:26 PM PST by tubebender (Now hiring Tag Line writers. Full time low pay)
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To: tubebender

It just needs a really good handwriting software.


41 posted on 03/07/2011 8:23:17 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

“They said there was no market for a product that is between a smartphone and a laptop but is neither.”

I am probably the millionth person to ask this, but what is this market?

I’m not trying to be a wiseguy, but am curious about the reasons for having an iPad, considering the existence of laptops and iPhones.


42 posted on 03/07/2011 8:24:04 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: TomServo
But Apple is not to be taken seriously with the possible exception of music and graphics...

For over 25 years Macintoshes have run LabView. Think about what you just said.
43 posted on 03/07/2011 8:29:13 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: WPaCon

Complete, go anywhere connectivity in a larger but very handy form factor. Very simple, almost brain-dead intuitive to use for the marginally computer literate, but extended via a large universe of apps, miniature applications, for a wide variety of surprising uses that have genuine utility, in both consumer and business realms. GPS built in, music player, laptop replacement ... the only thing it’s not is a cell phone, and there are those who use them for even that. It’s the ultimate portable platform with a screen large enough to be truly useful.


44 posted on 03/07/2011 8:33:14 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: WPaCon
I’m not trying to be a wiseguy, but am curious about the reasons for having an iPad, considering the existence of laptops and iPhones.

Just a quick example. My Wife (Neurologist) was ordering new lab coats. Many of them now come with iPad pockets.
45 posted on 03/07/2011 8:36:51 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

So, would you be ok with having an iPad without a laptop?


46 posted on 03/07/2011 8:46:02 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: PA Engineer

I see.

It seems that much of the iPad’s value comes from commercial uses. Is that correct?


47 posted on 03/07/2011 8:46:51 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: hole_n_one

You shouldn’t feed the N00bs. Let them fend for themselves.


48 posted on 03/07/2011 8:54:05 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: SteveAustin

And Mac numbers are up as well. Why? People like me for example, liked what we saw in the iPhone, and bought a Mac. I like em now. Didn’t used to. But that was way back in the day. Now I can get a command line, and it comes with development tools, and it just works.

I’ve spent too many years putting out Windows fires. I just want something that works. I still have my Linux machines to keep my hand in things, but for some things, I just want it to work.


49 posted on 03/07/2011 9:02:52 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: WPaCon
It seems that much of the iPad’s value comes from commercial uses. Is that correct?

My Wife is seeing a rapid adoption in the medical field and and also amongst drug reps.
50 posted on 03/07/2011 9:17:46 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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