Skip to comments.What are your impressions of Japanese and their society after seeing all the TV reports ? (Vanity )
Posted on 03/14/2011 2:01:54 AM PDT by sushiman
I've been here ( Japan ) a long time , so what I have seen does not surprise me : the people's resilience ; the community spirit ; the never give up attitude ; the discipline ; etc...I would love to hear what your impressions have been , watching from halfway around the world .
I haven’t watched TV in years.
But after reading all of these threads, I want to go to Japan for vacation to help their economy.
Don’t have the $$$ for it, though.
Very patient people. Maybe someone has seen looting and rioting, but I haven’t.
I have heard no reports of looting, and that alone speaks volumes.
An incredibly organized, disciplined, and honorable societal structure in stark contrast to what you see in other places (such as New Orleans)during similar tragic events. I had the pleasure of spending some time in Japan in the 90’s and look forward to returning some day. I wish the Japanese all the best as they recover from the devastation, which they will do through sheer will and determination.
I thought real disasters had people whining for government from their rooftops.
I worked with a guy who spent six years in Japan. As he described it....you just don’t see crime or looting in the rural areas of Japan at all. These are a very proud people who don’t allow punks to get out of control typically.
If this happened in the United States, millions of mind-numbed Obamatrons would be clamoring for a trillion-dollar stimulus.
Last I heard , Japan does not have a branch of NAMBLA .
We were right to drop the atom bomb on them in WW2. They would have fought to the last man otherwise. What a contrast to the “victims” of Hurricane Katrina who just sat on their bums waiting for the government to do something.
I agree about the bomb , and also with your comments re : contrast to Katrina .
I’ve been here 25 years , so what I’ve seen does not surprise me at all , obviously .
1. How are the people in Japan reacting to the catastrophe?
2. What would the reaction be if a similar event occurred here?
The general consensus I am hearing to question one is this:
1. The Japanese are remarkably self controlled and law abiding.
2. Their actions are governed by strong moral convictions and a sense of community.
3. These traits are probably the result of upbringing and culture.
The reaction to a similar event here in the states would vary greatly by region. In some areas the people would be remain law abiding and self controlled. They would try to help one another. In other areas of the country there would be massive looting, other criminal activities, and demands for government handouts. The difference in these two reactions are the difference in the upbringing and morality of the local inhabitants.
Hope all goes well for you and your family in Japan.
Everyone I am talking to is frustrated that there is not much we can do to help the people in serious trouble. But as for the resilience, the community spirit, discipline etc., I’ve been here so long I just can’t imagine Japanese people acting any other way.
I dont know about that
You've obviously never been there.
Japanese stoicism may be a valid impression, I don’t know. However, let me remind everyone that the whole Gulf Coast was hit by Katrina, and not all the reaction was like that of New Orleans. In many areas the people just put their shoulders to the grindstone and started to rebuild.
Searching for survivors despite knowing they’ll get dosed with radiation in the area of the reactors, the reactor crews staying at their posts with the knowledge they may not live long afterwards.
Both acting on the glimmer of hope that their actions will give someone else a fighting chance even at personal cost to them.
I don’t know, I haven’t been able to keep up with it.
But that is the impression I get on that aspect of things.
No. That term is Mandarin Chinese in origin.
Gung = work
ho = (when used in this application) signifies co-operation
Gung ho = work together.
OK, I just have top point out.
Yakuza = NOT honorable!
Same with the illicit “Soap Works”, kiddy porn, drug culture, etc.
Japan has many if not most of the same issues we do.
They also have access to criminal “persuasion” techniques that would be unconstitutional here.
Beating to gain a confession is legal and not unusual, FEAR can be a factor in most remaining demure in the face of disaster.
I visited Japan several times in the 80’s, I personally installed their very first “Voicemail” system.
The Japanese are generous host, they can be great business partners.
But in reality their morals are just not the same as ours.
A mistress is a sign of success, intellectual theft is not so much a crime but being caught at it is.
Evening drunkenness is a national pastime.
I also quickly learned they are often incredibly arrogant, to the point of risking their careers over trivial assumptions.
I enjoyed my trips there, it’s unlikely I will ever go back only due to expense and having no legitimate reason to return as I no longer work in electronics.
I hope my old working partner Kenji Sagusa, his wife, and mistress are all OK.
I also hope the Yakuza mobsters do not take too much advantage of the situation, skimming from the rebuilding, etc.
The Japanese have experience with this type of disaster, they will clean it up and rebuild.
Uh, I’ve decided that “diversity” of culture is not our strength.
There is something to be said for a harmonious culture, where everyone understands what sort of conduct is expected and condoned.
Much has been contrasted to the conduct of Americans during Katrina. It’s important to note that the behavior of poor black Americans in these circumstances is not race-based; it’s cultural and unique to blacks indoctrinated in liberal victimhood. When you speak to new arrivals directly from Africa, they sincerely cannot understand why black Americans are so mad.
They arrive here, and like immigrants before them, learn the language if they don’t already know it (although many speak the Queen’s English to begin with) and they get a cab license, open a shop, or get a job (so they can raise the cash to open a shop later). They are industrious. Most, if not all, will tell you that they don’t feel any discrimination at all. It is for this very reason that immigrants from Africa DO NOT ALLOW their American-born children to associate with black African-Americans. They have nothing in common with these children and moreover, they don’t want them to “contaminate” their kids. (Contamination is their word, not mine.)
Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and their ilk can be the ones you send the Thank You notes to.....
I lived in Japan for two years as a kid, and I like and respect the Japanese.
I have always admired their incredible stoicism in the face of hardship. This is no exception.
It makes me a little embarrassed, but I have to keep in mind that Americans have shown their mettle too in some situations, though not all.
I pray for the Japanese.
I will admit I have a slight bias in favor of the Japanese. One of my best friends when I was little was Japanese, an older girl who took time to play with one much younger. I always thought she was beautiful, had gorgeous long, black hair and I loved to hear her speak. She was born in the US and was bilingual.
From the first news announcement I felt that Japan would put us to shame when dealing with tragedy on such a wide scale. Behavior during Katrina was disgusting and I live too near and used to work in Detroit, a man-made continuing disaster. I know it’s early yet, but I have no doubts Japan will rebuild and heal quickly. Unlike Katrina and Haiti, I have no reservations about donating to help speed things up.
The ability for the government and industry to lie effortlessly is pretty impressive
Honestly? Japan is reacting exactly as I expected they would from the first moment I heard about it; politely and efficiently.
Bataan Death March pretty much says it all. They are great until they have a bayonet in your back. They will bounce back because they are Japanese. But don’t trust them with your life(i.e. radiation).
I had a Japanese boss at one time. Definitely very cool under pressure.
A friend sent me photos of modern day Hiroshima and Detroit. When you compare these cities now and 60 years ago you realize how different our societies are.
I am very impressed with their resilience and calm. It’s too bad our media people headed out there. You know they are going to turn it into a circus of misinformation and finger pointing.
“...often incredibly arrogant, to the point of risking their careers over trivial assumptions.”
An example, please?
Jackson showed the crowd how to make Molotov cocktails, beat up whites and Asians, and urged them to pick out now that new 60" 3-D LCD/LED set they want at Best Buy so that when they start looting, burning and killing they'll know exactly where to go and what to steal!
I was in Hurricane Katrina on the Mississippi Gulf Coast..was driving a two year old Mercedes..paid cash for it.
My total assistance was a grilled cheeseburger..from a retired Air Force Colonel who came from Florida with his two daughters. He set up on Hwy 49 in the Sams parking lot. I came from Montgomery to see the damage..after I evacuated.
There was no gas..no food available..The grilled cheeseburgers were tempting and it was what I needed.
Had to over night in a gas station parking lot in Mobile.
I am amazed at how organized the Japanese people are, but after looking at all the photos, there is one question that puzzles me.
Do Japanese people ever buy cars that aren’t white?
Because Japan is such a very disciplined society by world standards, they are handling this tremendous tragedy amazingly well. Otherwise, they couldn’t have easily handled something like the 1923 Great Kanto Earthquake (which pretty much destroyed most of Tokyo and Yokohama areas) or even the effects of World War II.
Admittedly, this doesn't extend to the kind of group shame over their military's behavior during WWII which the Germans so overtly express (one can blame this as much on MacArthur and his need to get them back on their feet and in line against the Soviets as anyone - Japanese civilians weren't hustled out of the rubble through the POW and concentration camps and their children were never taught the truth about the war) but you don't find any tolerance for sloth and squalor, nor any tendency to blame others for one's own bad choices and fate.
They are a unique and remarkably disciplined people. You may not have the many years experience in dealing with them some of us have and only see the negatives. Their perverse media is what it is, but before casting too many stones, have you heard about the 11 year old gang rape victim in Texas and the pedo ring they just broke up in that small British town? The Japanese people today, not the adults of 65 plus years ago, are very deserving of respect and our help right now.
THey are disciplined but highly dependent. Watch that help disappear and things will be different. My bet is that these people do not give a crap and would eat each other as canibal cook books have come out of Japan.
Our cities are corrupt. Katrina and Wisconsin riot with cops stealing and cross dressing point to the public unions obsessing hold for power. Yakusa is no different.
I think that what you’re describing is a word in short supply in this country, from a long time ago.
Honor is no longer rewarded in this country. Sloth, laziness, and irresponsibility IS rewarded.
You get more of what you reward. There are no rewards for being law-abiding, patient, or selfless.
The only thing that is rewarded is what you can get away with, all the while hoisting the cultural flag of victimhood as your excuse.
Trust me, we’re screwed without the steak dinner.
I’m very impressed. They have responded much like the unentitled, non-welfare areas of our country do in disasters.
People truly do share a bond.
I feel for them and wish that geography did not prevent my taking in a Japanese family.
Handouts turn people into expectant, unappreciative, disrespectful oafs.
That picture of the pile of white cars were most likely 2nd hand for export to 2nd/3rd world countries . White is popular finish , though , as it is the least expensive paint option . It is also said that white cars fetch more on a trade-in. Also lot of companies prefer using white cars for company use.
No looting of TV’s, beer and athletic shoes! No trashing of, violence and rapes in the shelter they are given. No pushing, shoving, violence in lines. No demanding somebody else do something/give them something. No debit cards with people buying Gucci purses with them. And I’m sure there will be no people demanding and getting free housing and money for 5 years afterward. They will pull together, rebuild and help each other. The comparisons are astonishing.
Could not agree more. Mention the word “honor” to a “Liberal” and they will laugh or point to the perversion of the word so common in certain “cultures”. A capacity to feel shame is what enforces personal honor and it must be taught by tough and loving parents who inculcate the child. Not easy but without it the results can be really ugly.
No shopping carts filled with beer or looted televisions, just lines of people who had lost everything. Two little kids, one who had saved her cat and another who had her pet rabbit with her..........
It sure wasn't the embarrassing Katrina crowd.......I'd be more than happy to offer my home to any of those familes for as long as it took to get back on their feet.
Don’t see any “Amish” behavior that is evident in our cities during disasters.