Posted on 03/15/2011 6:49:19 AM PDT by chatter4
And you know that "absolute and relevant FACT," how?
“the unsubstantiated claim that he was born in Hawaii”
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.”
“Do you question his faith and citizenship?” Palin was asked during an onstage interview hosted by the Long Island Association.
“I don’t, and those are distractions. What we’re concerned about is the economy. And we’re concerned about the policies coming out of his administration and what he believes in terms of big government or private sector. So, no, the faith, the birth certificate, others can engage in that kind of conversation. It’s distracting. It gets annoying and let’s just stick with what really matters.”—Governor Sarah Palin
For the sake of legitimacy, it doesn’t matter if he was born in Hawaii or not. The fact that Obama Sr. and Anne Dunham were married is hard to dispute. Otherwise there’d be no divorce.
Now, Napolitano is uselss as well.
How many useless appointees does Radar Ears have to do before they start reflecting badly on him?
And you know that “absolute and relevant FACT,” how?
Now, Napolitano is uselss as well.
How many useless appointees does Radar Ears have to do before they start reflecting badly on him?
Inside the Beltway, as long as the Republicans in his administration keep working for him: Ben Bernanke at the Fed, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Secretary of the Treasury Ray LaHood, Obama can present the appearance of being moderate and bipartisan. That appearance also includes Admiral Mike Mullen as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and General John Petraeus commanding in Afghanistan.
Ken Slazar is useless.
Elana Kagan, Sotomayer, all of his appointees and czars are useless.
That’s far more than fifteen.
Ken Slazar is useless.
Elana Kagan, Sotomayer, all of his appointees and czars are useless.
That’s far more than fifteen.
Appointees was the word used, that applies to everyone he appointed to a position.
That includes his czars, his supreme court picks, and his cabinet clowns.
ALL of his picks are useless.
Now, how many of them have to be useless before it reflects badly on him?
You know there was no such news release and that .this is a lie. Please stop posting lies to FreeRepublic.com
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What evidence? Obviously faked birth certificates? Random people who weren't present at the time saying that he was born in Kenya?
It's not even clear that his step-grandmother actually said he was born there as so many people believe. Ron McRae who started this thing claiming that Obama's grandmother (actually one of his presumed grandfather's other wives) said he was born in the village, went on to ask her if he was born in Mombasa on the other side of the country. How believable is he if he can't even get his own story right?
I don't know where Barack Obama was born or who his parents were, but the idea that they were flying off to the other side of the world to meet Barack Sr.'s parents and other wife doesn't work for me. It doesn't fit the realities of 1961. A trip to Kenya was a much bigger and more dangerous undertaking in those days.
You know there was no such news release and that .this is a lie. Please stop posting lies to FreeRepublic.com
Are you really so naive that you don’t know that there are intentional lies and unintentional misstatements in hundreds of articles posted on FreeRepublic?
The point is that Governor Lingle’s statement has influenced her political party in their dealings with the Obama birth certificate issue and since none of us has seen Obama’s long form, none of us has a clue as to whether Governor Lingle was “lying” or merely adding to the information that she was releasing.
Appointees was the word used, that applies to everyone he appointed to a position.
That includes his czars, his supreme court picks, and his cabinet clowns.
ALL of his picks are useless.
Now, how many of them have to be useless before it reflects badly on him?
And you know that “absolute and relevant FACT,” how?
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Actually, James picked this in #45.
I should have said “absolute and relevant LEGAL FACT.”
“Real facts” and “legal facts” may not necessarily be the same.
And in this case, because of the divorce, the LEGAL FACT is that Obama Sr. is the birth father.
As such Obama was born a natural citizen of Britain. To this day he remains such as he has not renounced his British citizenship formally.
The Thai Prime Minister is dealing with the exact same problem in Thailand right now after keeping this dual citizenship secret from his people.
Ping for later viewing.
The question was, how many useless picks does he have to do before it reflects badly on him.
The problem is, nobody reports on just how useless his picks ARE.
Ken Salazar the basement goblin keeps us fom developing domestic energy at all.
Press response: NONE.
Napolitano, refuses to enforce laws regarding the border, instead puts up a few signs telling citizens of THIS country to stay away.
Press response: Only on Fox News has there been any meaningful reporting.
Legally, the fatherhood is established and in the formal Hawaii records.
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Your explanation above seems reasonable. So I would think that Obama would have no problem releasing his Hawaii long form birth certificate to verify once and for all that Obama senior was indeed his birth father, because his parents' divorce papers already tell us that Obama senior was Obama's birth father.
But why Obama won't release his long form birth certificate is beyond me.
However, because Obama refuses to release his Hawaii long form birth certificate if Obama senior was indeed his birth father, I can only conclude that there is something else on his Hawaii long form birth certificate---if it even exist---that he does not want us to see and that would do serious damage to his political career when the public found out about the damaging information.
So I wish there was some way that you could persuade Obama to release his Hawaii long form birth certificate so that his Hawaii long form birth certificate can easily back up what his parents' divorce seems to tell us: Obama senior was Obama junior's birth father.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKfpWUxXOcE
I think the ‘who’s your daddy’ has been covered, it’s time to ask:
WHO’S YOUR MOTHER?!
So I wish there was some way that you could persuade Obama to release his Hawaii long form birth certificate so that his Hawaii long form birth certificate can easily back up what his parents’ divorce seems to tell us: Obama senior was Obama junior’s birth father.
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He is not hiding his father. Using mathematics terms - that data point is well established.
Now, the implication of a foreign father who never was or intended to be a US Citizen IS being obscured. By focusing on the ‘born’ part of ‘natural born Citizen’ the focus is not on the ‘natural’ part. A ‘natural Citizen’ is one whose father was a Citizen. Obviously that is not the case here. Obama can not be a ‘natural Citizen’ of the United States with a foreign citizen father. At one time Congress made this clear in the first naturalization law. The first naturalization law of the US specifically indicated a ‘natural born Citizen’ was that whose parents were Citizens. Jus soli (where you were born) was not even part of that formalized man-made law at the time. Thus, it is well known and well understood that your parents (plural) and specifically your fathers (since in 1789 the status of your mother followed your father) citizenship was THE factor in determining ‘natural born’ status. The next revision and since then the naturalization law has not included this specific text.
Another issue with the British father is .... that Obama is still legally a British citizen. To this day, he still has rights to British citizenship. Simply google ‘Thai Prime Minister dual’ to see why. The current Thailand Prime Minister is in a political dogfight since he intentionally hid his dual citizenship. The situation is a parallel to that of Obama.
Also, the missing page from the divorce proceeding tell us he was likely adopted. This would explain a logical and legal redaction of birth records. A legal adoption likely occurred - to Lolo Soetoro, before the age of 5. As such his original records, regardless of their content, were likely sealed and the page removed from the divorce records. And we was at that point an Indonesian citizen. Then he may have been adopted by his grandparents in 1971 and may have even had to be re-united legally with Obama Sr. for short time in December of 1971 so that he could give up his Indonesian citizenship legally (Indonesian law allows foreign birth fathers to ‘reclaim’ their children).
And then there is what did he do as an adult. He had until he was 23 or until August of 1984 to reclaim Kenyan, Indonesia or formally assume British Citizenship. Did he? Was that done to allow for foreign student status in college? Impossible to say. But if people are busy looking for original sealed birth records it keeps the attention off the fact that Obama was an Indonesian citizen as a child and possibly a Kenyan, Indonesian or British Citizen as an adult. This then would nullify the ‘born’ part of ‘natural born Citizen’ since ‘born’ means ‘from birth’.
So, why won’t the real long form certificate come out. The logistical answer is - it is likely legally sealed due to adoption(s). But the focus on this services a useful purpose to the administration - it keeps the focus off of the other even more damning elements of his past.
For the record I am not a born-in-Kenya fan. I think that was adopted and embellished story until it became a liability. It gave a connection to a father who was, in reality, only a father in name only. The real birth place could very well be Hawaii. But Washington state and Canada would have to be in the running as well since his mother shows up in Washington in September of 1961.
So there it is. They ‘cloakers’ (using an old Star Trek term) like to keep the focus on the Hawaii BC. It serves a purpose. It is mis-direction away from other equally, if not more, problematic areas of Obama’s history.
You assume (as many of us do) that the missing page from the divorce file is Barry0’s birth certificate.
But it might not be. If not, the divorce decree is not proof of legal parentage.
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