the ‘who’s your daddy’ has been covered, it’s time to ask:
WHO’S YOUR MOTHER?!
Indeed. Who is 0bamma's mamma?
Thanks, Fred Nerks.
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SP is posting lies again. (I don't know why he isn't banned.) - Quoting Nully, "Don't step in the troll."
Posted on 03/15/2011 6:49:19 AM PDT by chatter4
The question was, how many useless picks does he have to do before it reflects badly on him.
The problem is, nobody reports on just how useless his picks ARE.
Ken Salazar the basement goblin keeps us fom developing domestic energy at all.
Press response: NONE.
Napolitano, refuses to enforce laws regarding the border, instead puts up a few signs telling citizens of THIS country to stay away.
Press response: Only on Fox News has there been any meaningful reporting.
the ‘who’s your daddy’ has been covered, it’s time to ask:
WHO’S YOUR MOTHER?!
Indeed. Who is 0bamma's mamma?
Thanks, Fred Nerks.
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SP is posting lies again. (I don't know why he isn't banned.) - Quoting Nully, "Don't step in the troll."
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If Obama's mother was married to Obama senior and became pregnant by him, I would think that she visited a private baby doctor or a doctor at a clinic several times during her pregnancy for checkups.
I don't see her never visiting a doctor during her pregnancy, that is, I find it difficult to believe that the first time she saw a doctor was the day that she arrived at the hospital for Obama's birth.
So I'm just wondering why no one from the doctor's office or the clinic has come forward recently and said that yes, Obama's mother visited our Hawaii office several times during her pregnancy.
A reading of your various posts suggests you have an objective view of most of the known facts and issues. Let me ask about the logic in your statement above.
Under what theory is it possible for a non-U.S. birth to detract from NBC?
I submit location of birth is a fundamental element of NBC, and the answer could lead to fast tracked impeachment and removal (and election fraud). Non-U.S. birth represents game over. On the other hand, foreign citizen parentage depends entirely on a USSC opinion that it may or may not apply retroactively to O.
Of the two issues, which issue is it that O has never avoided and which does he continue to avoid?
Whose agenda is it that calls for ignoring the birth issue?
If foreign citizen parentage is the only way to disprove eligibility, by what means can it be established sooner than establishing non-U.S. birth?
From what we've heard from Lia and some other boy from Jakarta about his behavior, my money is on Lolo got fed up with him and packed his rear back to Hawaii. I doubt there was any concern with Lolo wanting to reclaim him.
She didn’t visit a doctor in Hawaii because she wasn’t there. None of her acquaintances saw her in Hawaii after March/April 1961.
LOL!
Fred, behave yourself! Of course, I know who my mother is. What appropriate question!
Papa Alinsky, mother is 0xana 0bam0va
Correction:
What appropriate question! -————>
What an inappropriate question!
Only Neil Abercrombie ever said he saw the son of a kenyan-goat-herder with a young woman...and Neil called her ANN!
ANN OR ANNE? Is this the young woman to whom Neil Abercrombie was referring?:
Barak Obama and his friends at a party hosted by Arnie and Suzie Nachmanoff, in the early 1960's, in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
Lower Photo; Taken in Hawaii in 1961 at Arnie and Suzie Nachmanoff's house (Pearl Harbor): from left to right: Kiri Tith (then Cambodia), Kitaichi (Japan), Marda (USA), Ichiro (Japan), Suzie Nachmanoff (Host, USA), Dave (USA), Kunio (Japan), Bob (USA), Rajapakse (Sri Lanka), Barak Obama senior (Kenya), Anne (USA)
MAYBE BY NOW ABERCROMBIE HAS WOKEN UP ANNE/USA WASN'T STANLEY ANN DUNHAM?
You assume (as many of us do) that the missing page from the divorce file is Barry0’s birth certificate.
But it might not be. If not, the divorce decree is not proof of legal parentage.
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No assumption. In fact I had to do a refresh on the document. See #45 for link.
Actually, I was wrong and apologize for saying the documents did not specifically name Obama II. The divorce decree DOES EXPLICITLY name Barack Obama II as the child the two parents. See section IV of the divorce decree. Full name and date.
So he is fully named in the document.
Again, these documents show the LEGAL fact. And as I have indicated real facts (actual biological parentage) and legal facts (those documented by government entities) do not always match.
So please do not take my comments as ‘proving’ what actually happened - who knows. But the divorce proceeding established Obama II as Obama Seniors child and established the birth date of August 4, 1961 in the legal world.
I would bet that the missing page is the original BC or record of birth from August of 1961. But it would be fully legally redacted if there were an adoption.
And remember:
“Born a Brit (and he still is) ain’t legit.”
“I don’t know where Barack Obama was born or who his parents were”
That is the problem!!! no one knows where obama was born. There were a couple fake Kenyan birth certificates, but there is currently one that has not been proven to be fake . it was mailed to all members of congress by certified mail. It appears to be real. The person who obtained it has stated that he is willing to speak under oath to a congressional committee. When you add this to the fact that the governor of Hawaii was unable to find a copy of obama’s records in Hawaii. “the facts are leaning towards obama being born in Kenya. Where ever he was born it was not in Hawaii.
I meant the hyper focus on the physical long-form birth certificate. Not the general concept of foreign birth. But I am not a fan of the Kenya-birth scenario. Logistically it does not fit and it would presume a strong relationship between Obama and SAD. And that was not the case. If I had to bet I would go 40-40 between Hawaii and Washington state and 20 on BC, Canada. This is because SAD shows up in Washington state in late August or early September 1961.
It is strongly argued that both jus sanguinis and jus soli are required to meet the the requirement of Article II. I do not want to directly challenge that as it is what has been specifically cited at different times in SCOTUS cases and even in the sham SR 511.
However, if you had to say which one is 'fundamental' I would argue and I believe it is clearly shown that 'jus sanguinis' is the more powerful of the two and the one 'most' relied on by the founding fathers.
The first naturalization act of our country (Naturalization act of 1790) was specific on this and specific that it is the FATHER whose citizenship counts. From the 1790 act: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States"
The citizenship of the father is part of 'natural law' (vs. positive law). Even the word patriot has its root in Greek language referring to your fathers land. Patriot and paternity have the same root. Pat = father!
I just noticed tonight that the 1790 act does not automatically declare that overseas children "ARE natural born Citizens" but indicated they are "CONSIDERED AS natural born Citizens". Meaning that the writers here probably recognized jus soli but basically 'waived' it as part of this law!!!! in 1795 this entire provision is dropped. Maybe because some felt this confused the jus soli issue.
He’s a progressive troll, what else should we expect? From day one he’s never been anything but a far left snot nosed basement dwelling obongo lover. FROM DAY ONE since he joined FR. He’s fun to play with though because he predictably says the same thing over and over.. Mr. broken record should have been his FR name.
HOLY COW!!! and the mods can’t tell that he’s an Obot, somebody is sleeping on the job.
You’re right.
And I, too, think the missing page was his original birth document, which was likely intentionally scrubbed.
From what we’ve heard from Lia and some other boy from Jakarta about his behavior, my money is on Lolo got fed up with him and packed his rear back to Hawaii. I doubt there was any concern with Lolo wanting to reclaim him.
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That I would not doubt.
But actually I was referring to Obama Senior reclaiming (temporarily) Obama II in 1971.
Stanley Ann was still an Indonesian citizen in 1971. And Obama II was being left with his grandparents in Hawaii in January of 1972. After a month with mom and...daddy who just supposedly happens to be hanging out with his old buddies (Abercrombie) in Hawaii.
So a crippled (he was in a bad car wreck) and almost broke Obama senior just happens to hang around Hawaii for a month while mom and baby are in from Indonesia??? Hmmmm...
How about this. Mom is not a US Citizen...and as you say Lolo is sick of the kid. But grandma and granddad only will take him if the citizenship paperwork is clean. No dual this and dual that. They will be his guardian only if he has clean paperwork. So....
So he needs to give up his Indonesian citizenship that he assumed when he was adopted by Lolo. To do that - you need Obama Senior. Obama Senior can calm Obama II as his and thus terminate Indonesian Citizenship. This is in Indonesian citizenship law - 17.x something....Alien father can reclaim child under 18. So now he is no longer Indonesian...but what is he...he is now Kenyan (the minor son of a Kenyan citizen), oh and he is still British, since he got that at birth and nothing changed that. But at this point he is NOT American. So then Obama senior turns over guardianship to Grandma and Granddad and maybe there is a formal naturalization process (uh oh!) as part of that. Then Indonesian citizen mom can run back to Lolo. And Obama Senior can go back to Kenya without paternal responsibilities.
If you were the Dunhams would you take guardianship of a child with questionable citizenship and whose parents are a flake mom and drunken dad who are both half a world away????
This scenario explains why Obama senior is in Hawaii (possibly on the Dunhams nickle) in December of 1971. He is the conduit to terminate Obama II’s Indonesian citizenship and get him over to the grandparents with clean citizenship status.
This is mostly theory. But it fits the data points.
Didn’t Abercrombie make some comment to the effect that Ann was shy and retiring - she didn’t say much? That couldn’t be the Stanley Ann Dunham we’ve all come to know and not love, could it?
You're right. His legal parents are Sr. and Dunham and the courts (IF it ever gets there) could use the divorce instead of the BC. He already agreed and signed his name to the definition of NBC in SR 511 and there once was part of the discussion about it online that "common" knowledge was that NBC meant TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS. How he continues to stay in office is beyond me.
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