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Taxing the Miles You Drive. GPS to Track and Record All Vehicles?
yahoo/ac ^ | 2-2-09 | Sherry Tomfeld

Posted on 03/25/2011 4:18:33 PM PDT by stillafreemind

Remember when smokers begged for people to be a little understanding? Remember when smokers warned that there would be a tax that ALL people would have to pay on something they held dear? Well, I think the GPS tax for tracking and taxing every mile you drive just may fit that bill.

This tax, like the cigarette smokers tax, will have devastating consequences on the poor and middle income people. With a tax on every mile we drive, not to mention tracking information on every mile we drive, are we seeing the "hope" and "change" that Obama and the democrats were talking about?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Travel
KEYWORDS: economy; gas; gastax; mileage; oil; oregon; taxes
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To: stillafreemind

This isn’t anything like the cigarette tax. If it were, you wouldn’t be allowed to drive, while in your vehicle.


21 posted on 03/25/2011 5:40:35 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Michigan Bowhunter
if something like this was forced upon the masses of america, i would be in full support of all out removal of every elected political official and every appointed official. Time to scrap the whole mess and start over from scratch. If this is what Soros wants, he would not survive it. Dont ask for the things you desire in life, sometimes you do not like how they taste

Agreed. I think we need to do this to restore the Constitution.
22 posted on 03/25/2011 5:43:12 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: stillafreemind
You gotta' hand it to the Demos/liberals/nanny-staters: they are creative at coming up with new taxes. I propose a tax on being a registered Democrat or every time you vote for one.
23 posted on 03/25/2011 5:47:03 PM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: Sybeck1
I guess speeding tickets will start showing up in your mailbox, or worse yet the fines will be drafted out of your bank account.

Yes, and as you might recall, part of Obamacare is direct government access into your bank account. The pieces of the puzzle fit together perfectly.

24 posted on 03/25/2011 5:47:07 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: stillafreemind
"With a tax on every mile we drive, not to mention tracking information on every mile we drive, are we seeing the "hope" and "change" that Obama and the democrats were talking about?"

A gas tax is a tax on every mile you drive. If you use more gas (via driving more or bad gas mileage) you pay more tax and are presumably paying in accordance with your use of the highways and damage to the ecology (I didn't say I believe this BTW). But you see, much like the cigarette tax, the more you tax something the less revenue you get as people will conserve in various ways.

So the spendaholics have got to figure out a way for you to pay taxes not connected to what you drive, these people just don't stop.

25 posted on 03/25/2011 5:47:59 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: MeganC

Now let’s be environmentally sensitive here. The EPA has a serious concern about lead. We should consider FMJ instead.


26 posted on 03/25/2011 5:58:04 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: BobL
If money is just needed for highway repair and expansion, an increase of the gas tax of, maybe, 25 to 50 cents per gallon will easily cover it.

And there lies the rub. Once this idea is beat back then the "obvious" solution is to do just that...increase the gas tax. The idea is to frighten then relieve, even if the relief will piss many off. Yard Sale politics at its basic, pure level.

27 posted on 03/25/2011 6:08:49 PM PDT by torchthemummy (The Audacity Of Truth Trumps All)
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To: goodnesswins
we ALREADY pay taxes on GAS for this VERY reason

As motor vehicles become more efficient, the revenue from gasoline taxes decreases. Let's say you buy a gallon of gasoline for $4.00 of which $2.00 is tax. That's $0.05 per mile in a Prius as opposed to $0.20 per mile in a Suburban.

28 posted on 03/25/2011 6:10:42 PM PDT by reg45
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To: stillafreemind

Feareth not.

GPS jammer stock will go through the roof. And everyone will have one.


29 posted on 03/25/2011 6:17:14 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: reg45

YES, I know....same goes for cigarettes....as States have programs for smoking cessation....and then complain that their tax revenues drop...and btw, my “efficiency” in gas hasn’t dropped in 10+ years....that’s how long we’ve had our Ford F100 P/U


30 posted on 03/25/2011 6:25:17 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Unlike the West, the Islamic world is serious.)
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To: stillafreemind
It's feasible that, literally, every breath you take can be taxed according to your calculated impact on all infrastructure. For example, you enter a public building, and you increase the load on the heating and cooling system. You flush the toilet, you consume resources. Your account can be debited accordingly.

Ridiculous? Of course it is. That's why it's really gonna suck when crap like this starts kicking in.

31 posted on 03/25/2011 6:35:34 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (You is what you am.)
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To: stillafreemind

The last time I heard, we already had a “fuel” tax. Seems to me that is sufficient without all this added BS. Double Taxation.

Fry any POL who advocates such dribble.

Bye Bye Bye Dummies.


32 posted on 03/25/2011 6:48:15 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Da Coyote

What if they outlaw ‘em? They outlawed radar jammers. ...just saying that layers of contingency plans might be good.


33 posted on 03/25/2011 7:01:10 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
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To: stillafreemind
Read up on Agenda 21 folks, this is part of the plan. It will drive people from rural areas into the festering urban enclaves where they can be controlled.

Now, who makes a faraday cage which will block the GPS transciever in a vehicle?

34 posted on 03/25/2011 7:18:40 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: stillafreemind

A per-mile gas tax would adversely effect southern state, but most particularly western states where you have to have a car to get around because everything is so spread out. Most of NYC wouldn’t have to pay this tax because they don’t have any cars!! It’s simply not fair.


35 posted on 03/25/2011 10:13:09 PM PDT by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: stillafreemind

A per-mile gas tax would adversely effect southern state, but most particularly western states where you have to have a car to get around because everything is so spread out. Most of NYC wouldn’t have to pay this tax because they don’t have any cars!! It’s simply not fair.


36 posted on 03/25/2011 10:13:14 PM PDT by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

>> Read up on Agenda 21 folks, this is part of the plan. It will drive people from rural areas into the festering urban enclaves where they can be controlled.

Won’t happen. The roots of Liberty are deeper than most realize, and I’m willing to bank my life on it — and I mean that sincerely.


37 posted on 03/25/2011 10:22:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: stillafreemind

The right to travel is a part of the “liberty” of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment. So much is conceded by the Solicitor General. In Anglo-Saxon law, that right was emerging at least as early as the Magna Carta. [n12] Chafee, [p126] Three Human Rights in the Constitution of 1787 (1956), 171-181, 187 et seq., shows how deeply engrained in our history this freedom of movement is. Freedom of movement across frontiers in either direction, and inside frontiers as well, was a part of our heritage. Travel abroad, like travel within the country, may be necessary for a livelihood. It may be as close to the heart of the individual as the choice of what he eats, or wears, or reads. Freedom of movement is basic in our scheme of values. See Crandall v. Nevada, 6 Wall. 35, 44; Williams v. Fears, 179 U.S. 270, 274; Edwards v. California, 314 U.S. 160. “Our nation,” wrote Chafee,

has thrived on the principle that, outside areas of plainly harmful conduct, every American is left to shape his own life as he thinks best, do what he pleases, go where he pleases.

Kent v Dulles, 357 US 116, 125 decided June, 1958


38 posted on 03/25/2011 10:38:49 PM PDT by djf (Dems and liberals: Let's redefine "marriage". We already redefined "natural born citizen".)
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To: Retain Mike; All

It is the surveillance aspect of the installation of MONITORING DEVICES in all vehicles that really concerns me.. THIS HAS TO BE STOPPED.

Incredibly ND Democrat KENT CONRAD IS PROMOTING THIS. It is amazing that someone from ND would be endorsing this kind of tax and government tracking of every individual.

IS THIS EVEN CONSTITUTIONAL???


39 posted on 03/25/2011 10:42:59 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: stillafreemind

I would bet there would be many waivers given to override transmission of the data by gadget fix or even crooked government employees. Government insiders and poor people on food stamps and other handouts woould be on waivers if for no other purposes than to keep the votes coming in.


40 posted on 03/25/2011 10:58:33 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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