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The 'Titanic' and 'Avatar': A Curious Obsession with Nazi Sympathizer Leni Riefenstahl
The American Thinker ^ | 4/22/2011 | Mark Musser

Posted on 04/22/2011 8:03:14 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman

Robert von Dassanowsky, the director of Film Studies at the University of Colorado, acutely noticed back in 2001 that James Cameron's epic movie Titanic is based on the German mountain films that Riefenstahl starred in. Although largely ignoring Riefenstahl's compromised relationship with the Nazis, von Dassanowsky makes a compelling case that Cameron's Titanic is a German mountain film set upon the sea ice of the North Atlantic.

Von Dassanowsky even went so far to strongly suggest that the heroine in the Titanic, Rose, is actually based on Riefenstahl's personal character. He then intimates that Cameron may have indeed directed the Titanic to show how Riefenstahl's untamed feminism eventually overcame her compromised relationship with the chauvinism of the Nazis, represented by her dictatorial fiancé on the ship, whom she never married. In the end, Riefenstahl, like Rose, redeemed herself from the dictatorial Nazi regime.

Even more startling, Cameron also borrowed from Nazi Germany's own version of the Titanic made in 1943. In the Nazi version, the hero of the story is a German officer who ...

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; History; Outdoors; Society
KEYWORDS: enemypropaganda; hollywood; leniriefenstahl; riefenstahl; titanic
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1 posted on 04/22/2011 8:03:18 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
This is so far fetched it's ridiculous.
2 posted on 04/22/2011 8:07:04 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Cameron is a wacky Leftist. I don't like him.

But my God, the man knows how to make movies. I didn't even realize it until I saw a list of his movies. I had no idea he had been involved in so many of my favorite movies, going back several decades. The man is just good at his job.

One way to master your craft is to look at predecessors and to learn from them. Everyone agrees that Riefenstahl was a great film maker. So Cameron studied and learned from her. What's the big deal?

3 posted on 04/22/2011 8:07:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
This is too much of a stretch for me. There is no cinematic similarity whatsoever between Titanic and Triumph of the Will. Zero. I wouldn't waste my money on Avatar so I can't comment, but stylistically, thematically, and artistically, Cameron is not Riefenstahl.
4 posted on 04/22/2011 8:08:43 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

I thought undersea UFOs destroyed the Titanic...


5 posted on 04/22/2011 8:11:07 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Reads like an undergrad film paper. Draws some pretty wild comparisons; if the subject matter were green-friendly, would probably get a B+ (I know this because I certainly pandered to my professor and TA's when writing up film themes).

But the thesis ultimately fails due to one simple problem. The hero in Titanic was named "Jack", not "Jake". When faced with such elementary carelessness, I must give a failing grade.

6 posted on 04/22/2011 8:12:06 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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7 posted on 04/22/2011 8:12:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Cameron stole his movie ideas from the nazis? What’s his next movie, TRIUMPH OF THE WILL, PART II starring Sean Penn?


8 posted on 04/22/2011 8:12:33 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Why should Leni Riefenstahl be excluded from all the directors that Cameron ripped off making Avatar?


9 posted on 04/22/2011 8:12:46 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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The 'Titanic' and 'Avatar': A Curious Obsession with Nazi Sympathizer Leni Riefenstahl

...OR, perhaps a certain 'film studies' professor is bored and craves attention

10 posted on 04/22/2011 8:13:48 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: BenLurkin

Those films were referenced by Tarantino in Inglourious Basterds.


11 posted on 04/22/2011 8:15:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dead

He took the idea for Terminator from an episode of The Outer Limits so...


12 posted on 04/22/2011 8:15:27 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

So, Ms. Rienfenstahl one made a cartoon movie about a racially ambiguous little dude with an arrow on his head who wears robes like a buddhist monk and ‘bends’ air... or something?

;-)


13 posted on 04/22/2011 8:18:00 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: WayneS

Either that, or Godzilla — http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2704867/posts


14 posted on 04/22/2011 8:19:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: IronJack

Avatar without 3-D is a really so-so average movie with a Disney-like simplistic plot.


15 posted on 04/22/2011 8:20:34 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Artemis Webb

It does not appear that you have even bothered to read the article.


16 posted on 04/22/2011 8:21:37 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Everybody is influenced by everything. Well almost. Probably not a stretch to think that there is some influence. What’s a stretch it to take that idea and say it’s a conscious remake. That’s where things get ridiculous.

Take George Harrison and My Sweet Lord and the Chiffons’ He’s So Fine. I doubt George set out to consciously rewrite or steal He’s So Fine. But doubtless he had heard the song and somewhere along the line it stuck in his brain. I think that’s how most of these things work.


17 posted on 04/22/2011 8:21:56 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Welcome to the USA - where every day is Backwards Day!)
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To: Mr. Bird

Yes, you are right about Jack.


18 posted on 04/22/2011 8:22:57 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: IronJack
"Avatar"

They'eve been showing the film endlessly on HBO. Every time I'm flipping through the channels and Avatar appears on the screen, I think I'm looking at overgrown Smurfs. Really, the movie is too absurd to be taken seriously.

19 posted on 04/22/2011 8:25:54 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Knowing James Cameron’s green streak, this is not a stretch - far from it - it is the heart of the matter.


20 posted on 04/22/2011 8:26:05 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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