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The 'Titanic' and 'Avatar': A Curious Obsession with Nazi Sympathizer Leni Riefenstahl
The American Thinker ^ | 4/22/2011 | Mark Musser

Posted on 04/22/2011 8:03:14 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman

Robert von Dassanowsky, the director of Film Studies at the University of Colorado, acutely noticed back in 2001 that James Cameron's epic movie Titanic is based on the German mountain films that Riefenstahl starred in. Although largely ignoring Riefenstahl's compromised relationship with the Nazis, von Dassanowsky makes a compelling case that Cameron's Titanic is a German mountain film set upon the sea ice of the North Atlantic.

Von Dassanowsky even went so far to strongly suggest that the heroine in the Titanic, Rose, is actually based on Riefenstahl's personal character. He then intimates that Cameron may have indeed directed the Titanic to show how Riefenstahl's untamed feminism eventually overcame her compromised relationship with the chauvinism of the Nazis, represented by her dictatorial fiancé on the ship, whom she never married. In the end, Riefenstahl, like Rose, redeemed herself from the dictatorial Nazi regime.

Even more startling, Cameron also borrowed from Nazi Germany's own version of the Titanic made in 1943. In the Nazi version, the hero of the story is a German officer who ...

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; History; Outdoors; Society
KEYWORDS: enemypropaganda; hollywood; leniriefenstahl; riefenstahl; titanic
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To: Polybius

Now, if you had shown a picture of a 911, I would think about it. But a bug? “Dis vill be mein revenge on der American schwein, Ferdie. An ugly little car mit no engine.”


81 posted on 04/22/2011 1:50:46 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: dfwgator

You’re calling Neil Armstrong names? Them’s fightin words were I come from cowpoke. You’d better be able to back that up with lead. Put the pistol away, I meant a pencil...you know...writing something.


82 posted on 04/22/2011 1:55:00 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Dead Corpse

He did Aliens? Really? I thought Aliens was a remake of That Darn Cat. I’m all messsed up today.


83 posted on 04/22/2011 1:58:19 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Tublecane

I knew it! And The International Star confirms it, so that’s two sources and like every journalism professor will tell you, “Two sources makes it true.”


84 posted on 04/22/2011 2:01:47 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: dfwgator
We got to the moon because of a "Nazi."

Quite a number of them, in fact.

I recall reading a while back that when the biopic of Wernher von Braun's life debuted in England one of the major papers over there reviewed it under the heading "I Aim For The Stars (but I sometimes hit London)".
85 posted on 04/22/2011 2:19:20 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: blueunicorn6

Look up Werner Von Braun.


86 posted on 04/22/2011 2:51:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Volkisch means people when translated literally into English, but it really stands for indigenous racism.

Volk (in this sense) really means People, in the same way the term for themselves used by almost every native tribe in the world means People or The People.

The implication of course, by both the tribes and the Germans, was that other people weren't really people at all.

87 posted on 04/23/2011 8:13:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Tublecane
Eisenstein gets off scott free for doing the same for commies

It's not right, but communism just does not have the stigma it deserves, despite 100,000,000 murders.

I remember a few years ago, the NYTimes (of course) did a front page, fun, human interest story on an old age home in California (of course) for unrepentant communist geezers. It was disgraceful. Like a bunch of nazis sitting around crapping their pants wistfully longing for the return of the death camps.

The Battleship Potemkin is a hell of a movie. Very inventive for its time. I was rooting for the evil soldiers though.

88 posted on 04/23/2011 11:16:40 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

That doesn’t matter to me, because I’m telling the truth, not writing some verbose, pseudo-intellectual film article aimed at the author’s fellow pinheads.


89 posted on 04/23/2011 11:52:28 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Sherman Logan

The volkisch movement is rooted in the German Romanticism of Goethe, Arndt, Schopenhaeur and Riehl, which was later undergirded by Ernst Haeckel’s Social Darwinian ecological ‘science.’ Heidegger’s existentialism, borrowing from some of his own cadre of racist folks, emphasized the enemy otherness of the volkisch movement and placed it on a philosophical basis rather than upon biology or ecology. Yet Heidegger is still considered a who’s who of Nazi environmentalism. Heidegger’s racism, therefore was still rooted in the German soil, but was based on ontology and not upon the scientism of Nazi science. The entire crowd listed above loved nature and were anti-Semitic in varying degrees, and Nature was used as the justificaiton for their racism.


90 posted on 04/23/2011 2:08:50 PM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

I haven’t seen Titanic or Avatar. I have seen Triumph of the Will. Granted it was subtitled, it eerily sounded like it could have been produced by the DNC.


91 posted on 09/27/2011 8:20:57 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Polybius

“As far as Hitler is concerned, I pointed out that it is impossible for an imperfect human to be 100% evil, 100% of the time, even if he specifically tried to accomplish such a task. Eventually, the imperfect human makes a mistake, as all humans do, and produces something good. Godwin’s Law is funny but it has no bearing to the real world.”

I won’t comment on Hitler being 100% evil or not, or Godwin’s Law for that matter, but I will tell you that you’re a bit too optimistic if you think that a human can’t be 100% evil 100% of the time. In fact, I can name an actual real life example of such a human being who was exactly that. His name is the Marquis de Sade, who doesn’t even make it a secret that he’s proud of being an irredeemable monster. I don’t recall him producing ANYTHING good.

Anyways, it’s not just James Cameron who ripped off Leni Riefenstahl. I also heard that George Lucas’s ending for A New Hope actually was taken directly from Triumph of the Will, shot by shot. And get this, the HEROES were pretty much in the same position as Hitler and the Nazis. Bit ironic, really, considering the Empire often gets denounced as being Nazis (and here’s another tidbit you guys might not know: The Empire was actually meant by Lucas to be based on us Americans during the Vietnam War).


92 posted on 07/05/2018 7:34:45 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

93 posted on 07/05/2018 7:43:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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