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Blackbeard's anchor recovered off NC coast
AP ^ | May 27, 2011 | MARTHA WAGGONER

Posted on 05/29/2011 7:35:53 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

MOREHEAD CITY, N.C. – An anchor from what's believed to be the wreck of the pirate Blackbeard's flagship has been raised from the ocean floor off the North Carolina coast.

Archaeologists believe the anchor recovered Friday is from the Queen Anne's Revenge, which sank in 1718. That was five months before Blackbeard was killed in a battle.

The artifact is the third-largest item at the shipwreck, outsized only by two other anchors.

Researchers retrieved the anchor from the shipwreck about 20 feet under water...

The anchor is about 11 feet long.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: anchor; blackbeard; edwardteach; edwardthatch; godsgravesglyphs; northcarolina; queenannesrevenge

1 posted on 05/29/2011 7:35:58 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Arrrr.


2 posted on 05/29/2011 7:39:35 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: MAexile

The dreaded EDWARD TEACH (A.K.A BLACKBEARD)
3 posted on 05/29/2011 7:40:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Blackbeard, Hollywood writers could not come up with a better story than his Real life!


4 posted on 05/29/2011 7:41:20 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: MAexile
Fifteen men on a dead man's chest,
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
5 posted on 05/29/2011 7:41:58 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Cheetahcat

True!


6 posted on 05/29/2011 7:42:29 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Yarr Cat
7 posted on 05/29/2011 7:43:37 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

arrrrrsome.


8 posted on 05/29/2011 7:45:12 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: television is just wrong

9 posted on 05/29/2011 7:49:59 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Blackbeard (from a 1736 engraving)



Teach's flag depicted a skeleton spearing a heart,
while toasting the devil.
It was designed to intimidate enemies.

10 posted on 05/29/2011 7:54:48 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Overcompensating, he was. Yarr.


11 posted on 05/29/2011 8:03:19 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

OK, I got that. It was funny.


12 posted on 05/29/2011 8:23:03 PM PDT by bajabaja (Too ugly to be scanned at the airports.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Do you think he plans it all out ahead of time, or just makes it up as he goes along?

13 posted on 05/29/2011 8:24:41 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Will probably take it over to Coastal Carolina U where they have restored many of the canons.


14 posted on 05/29/2011 8:32:36 PM PDT by AGreatPer (May 21 end of world canceled until further notice.)
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To: Cheetahcat

Blackbeard, Edward Teach, left descendants down there. If it could be said he actually resided anywhere, that would be Bath, but he had a longterm dalliance up the Tar River at a plantation near modern day Grimesland, where his sister is also reputed to have lived. He often climbed a large cypress tree on the banks of the Tar by Grimesland to survey the Pamlico Sound for ships to plunder.

Local lore on Ocracoke Island on the Outer Banks says that going out to Teaches’ Hole, where he was beheaded and killed, on a night with a full moon and slappig the water three times with an oar will lead to the headless ghost of Blackbeard swimming around your boat, lol.


15 posted on 05/29/2011 8:48:19 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Just curious how they verfied this is Blackbeard’s ship, and not just some other rumrunner?


16 posted on 05/29/2011 9:00:57 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: RegulatorCountry

Who was the pirate that was buried up to his neck in sand and left to drown when the tide came in, and what was the movie (”Har, Minyerd”) that depicted this story and pirate?


17 posted on 05/29/2011 9:04:24 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: SeekAndFind
Did some reading on Ned Teach a couple of years back, and what I learned was rather suprising. A researcher had studied up on Blackbeard's shipping attacks, and found that total casualties inflicted by this scourge of the seas was 0. With the exception, of course of his final battle with the RN, Teach never killed anyone who wasn't actively trying to kill him. He simply understood that good PR was worth an entire broadside. Merchant crews were indeed scared spitless of him, but it was clearly understood that a quick surrender was quite survivable, whilst fighting him was not to be thought of. Given the right circumstances an owner operator might even keep his ship, (albeit riding a bit higher). A remarkable individual indeed.
18 posted on 05/29/2011 9:04:43 PM PDT by 75thOVI ("The crews of all submarines captured should be treated as pirates and hanged". Sir Arthur Wilson)
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To: SeekAndFind
Did some reading on Ned Teach a couple of years back, and what I learned was rather suprising. A researcher had studied up on Blackbeard's shipping attacks, and found that total casualties inflicted by this scourge of the seas was 0. With the exception, of course of his final battle with the RN, Teach never killed anyone who wasn't actively trying to kill him. He simply understood that good PR was worth an entire broadside. Merchant crews were indeed scared spitless of him, but it was clearly understood that a quick surrender was quite survivable, whilst fighting him was not to be thought of. Given the right circumstances an owner operator might even keep his ship, (albeit riding a bit higher). A remarkable individual indeed.
19 posted on 05/29/2011 9:04:59 PM PDT by 75thOVI ("The crews of all submarines captured should be treated as pirates and hanged". Sir Arthur Wilson)
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To: 75thOVI
Amazing, isn't it, how we all seem to be fascinated by the mythic "Pirate" character? What is it about this figure, who in reality was no more than a sea-going thug?
20 posted on 05/29/2011 10:07:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

21 posted on 05/30/2011 5:51:23 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

” What is it about this figure, who in reality was no more than a sea-going thug?”

Could be that we are fascinated by men who go out and take responsability. This covers good and evil. Doesn’t matter if it is G Washington or pretty boy Floyd. They go, they Do, and they “back their own judgement” themselves. They of course are not comprable beyond that point.


22 posted on 05/30/2011 5:56:11 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Something I've given considerable thought to myself. For the most part I agree with you. There were some pirate such as L’Olonnais, and Roc Brasiliano who were naught but murdering psychopaths. Stede Bonnet, and Calico Jack Rackham were actually a couple of bumbling incompetents. Mary Read, and Anne Bonney passed quite sucessfully as men for a period of time, so they may not have been the sea-going sirens Hollywood portrays them as. Of course, James Hook had an unhealthy obsession with little boys. But, there were a few who did what they did with a certain “Style”. They managed to rise to the top at a time when common people just simply didn't. Keep in mind that at this time the difference between a war hero, a privateer, and a pirate, could be very thin indeed.
23 posted on 05/30/2011 6:31:52 AM PDT by 75thOVI ("The crews of all submarines captured should be treated as pirates and hanged". Sir Arthur Wilson)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

“Teach’s flag depicted a skeleton spearing a heart,
while toasting the devil.
It was designed to intimidate enemies.”

Ri-i-ight. And Jack Sparrow actually existed, too.

Note the date on the illustration in your post. It is dated 1736. Teach died almost 20 years earlier (1718). And that image, along with all of the various pirate “flags” were created in London by engravers trying to please publishers with books to sell.

They could come up with any flag they could think of, and who was going to say boo about the accuracy? And frankly, they did. I have seen what you claimed to be Teach’s flag as Bartholomew Robert’s flag and Charles Vane’s flag depending on the book — and often varying from edition to edition of the book. (I am talking about 18th century books, or modern facsimile reproductions of those books.)

A few years back I decide to do some research on pirate flags to determine what designs were authentic. The fancy pirate flags you see in 19th-, 20th-, and 21st-century books on piracy were all taken from 18th century books written 10 to 50 years after the end of the Golden Age of Piracy (which ended in 1721 or 22, although some pirates lingered on until 1730).

I could not find description in contemporaneous newspaper accounts (1700-1722), although that does not signify since not many are available. So I actually dug up Admiralty court records from that era (back in the early 1800s someone collected court proceedings from piracy trials into some books, and I obtained copies). After plowing through these source, I found no reference to skeletons, skulls-and-crossed bones, or any of the other devices frequently put forward as pirate flags. When flags were referred to the pirates were claimed to have been flying “a black banner” or “a red banner,” which I inferred to be a flag of solid black or solid red. After all, today when someone flies a white flag, it is a solid white flag. This makes a sense to me as having a skull-and-crossbones flag (or similarly-marked flag that could be associated with a pirate flag) aboard your ship would be evidence that your ship was a pirate ship and that you were a pirate. Back in the early 1700s it could not easily be explained away as a joke if you were caught with one in a law-abiding port (and even pirates went to law-abiding ports). On the other hand, every ship had bolts of red, black, white, blue, yellow, etc cloth aboard, and your solid black or red banner could be fairly easily explained away. For that matter, pirates today don’t bother with flags, and I suspect most pirates throughout history did not.

I am not saying it could not have happened, but until I see a contemporaneous official report from a naval captain of an encounter or capture of a pirate than describes one of the so-called pirate flags (other than as a “black banner”) or a Admiralty Court proceedings of a piracy trial from the period 1700-1725 describing such flags, I will believe that all of these fancy pirate flags were the product of Fleet Street circa 1730-60, with subsequent appearances on the high seas being borrowings from these books.


24 posted on 05/30/2011 7:08:55 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: No Truce With Kings

IIRC the Jolly Roger was actually the “jolie rouge” or pretty red flag. Also IIRC that flag being raised meant if the defending ship fought it could expect no quarter.


25 posted on 05/30/2011 7:26:24 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Yesterday I meditated, today I seek balance. That was Zen, this is Tao.)
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To: Rudder

Nice painting...


26 posted on 05/30/2011 8:33:54 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

“Blackbeard, Edward Teach, left descendants down there. If it could be said he actually resided anywhere, that would be Bath, but he had a longterm dalliance up the Tar River at a plantation near modern day Grimesland, where his sister is also reputed to have lived. He often climbed a large cypress tree on the banks of the Tar by Grimesland to survey the Pamlico Sound for ships to plunder.

Local lore on Ocracoke Island on the Outer Banks says that going out to Teaches’ Hole, where he was beheaded and killed, on a night with a full moon and slappig the water three times with an oar will lead to the headless ghost of Blackbeard swimming around your boat, lol.”

Thanks for that post.


27 posted on 05/30/2011 9:26:24 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

You know, I can add a chuckle and an inexplicable gleam in my eye now when I say, “I Teach kids....”


28 posted on 05/31/2011 5:22:55 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Lol


29 posted on 05/31/2011 6:53:11 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; Bean Counter

BC, I believe your image is needed on this thread. ;)


30 posted on 05/31/2011 6:56:34 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: SeekAndFind

A nice bath and he’s not bad looking.


31 posted on 05/31/2011 6:59:45 AM PDT by angcat (DEAR GOD PLEASE SAVE US!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

other “news” on this Black Beard search dive...

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/9655559/#/vid9655559


32 posted on 05/31/2011 7:41:03 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

33 posted on 05/31/2011 7:43:54 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Your what hurts??)
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To: AGreatPer
The anchor is at ECU per this story...

http://www.wwaytv3.com/2011/05/27/blackbeards-anchor-returns-from-the-depths

"The anchor is at the Queen Anne's Revenge Conservation Lab at East Carolina University, where restoration could take four years. Captain Beuth thinks the final resting place should be in front of Cape Fear Community College."

34 posted on 05/31/2011 7:46:43 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras

Thanks for sharing! :-)


35 posted on 05/31/2011 7:50:58 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Hatteras
"The anchor is at ECU"

Thank you for the info.

36 posted on 05/31/2011 5:20:52 PM PDT by AGreatPer (May 21 end of world canceled until further notice.)
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37 posted on 06/05/2011 7:27:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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38 posted on 06/05/2011 7:28:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Back in that day the Pirates were free men while everyone else was a subject.


39 posted on 06/05/2011 7:39:35 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: No Truce With Kings

I read a historical account of Captian Kidd - backed up with a lot of facts that he wasn’t really a pirate at all. They talked about the misconception of the shull and bones as well. I recall a solid red flag was most common.

And why pirates are so fascinating? The romance and adventure. As long as we don’t get into the bloody details. Also - pirate ships were very democratic with the crew taking votes on what to do, etc. Rare in those times.


40 posted on 06/05/2011 7:55:49 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: 21twelve
"pirate ships were very democratic with the crew taking votes on what to do.." "A shrewd and calculating leader, Teach avoided the use of force, relying instead on his fearsome image to elicit the response he desired from those he robbed. Contrary to the modern-day picture of the traditional tyrannical pirate, he commanded his vessels with the permission of their crews and there are no known accounts of his ever having harmed or murdered those he held captive. He was romanticised after his death, and became the inspiration for a number of pirate-themed works of fiction across a range of genres." http://www.answers.com/topic/blackbeard
41 posted on 06/06/2011 10:01:43 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: No Truce With Kings; SunkenCiv; Beowulf9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSLDz8PSSkc

I meant to post this awhile ago on the subject of Pirates. The epic song “Pirates” by Emerson Lake and Palmer. I always thought it would have made a great song for a movie. A buddy of mine that is into sailing heard it once and said “These guy’s must sail - they got it all right!” (Not sure if that is true or not - but a great song to close your eyes and imagine to.)


42 posted on 06/06/2011 10:52:44 PM PDT by 21twelve
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