Posted on 06/28/2011 6:07:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Its carved using Word.
There is actually significant evidence to support the theory that ‘The Lost Tribe of Israel’ were native Indians in the Americas. A rather intriguing and thought provoking theory it is.
It was first recorded in 1880.
There’s a short but very good discussion at the Wikipedia link.
Wikipedia isn’t a Mormon site, and I’m not sure wth svcw was getting at with that nasty remark.
The stone can’t be dated by patination, because it’s been cleaned a number of times since 1880. The text must have been traced in white sometime after the 1960s, because the photo of the stone I remember from back then didn’t show this.
Thanks.
Not so. The only “evidence” comes from lds sources. There have been dozens of DNA studies to determine immigration patterns and there is no evidence to support your statement.
Oh, so sorry. At least you could have said you were lds, most all the links you proved are links to lds articles. When you do a search for additional information on what you posted today you find two major lines of thought one from lds sources that have a vested interest in it being true and one from archaeologist that say this is a bogus find. Just saying.
Las Lunas is ON the Santa Fe Trail. Last reference I made to that was in the context of Arrow Rock Missouri where we find the intersection of what appears to be a surveyed Spanish baseline extending from Washington DC to Arrow Rock (prior to the subdivision of the continent among several contending European states ~ UK, France, Spain ~ circa 1604) and a Meridian that extends all the way into Canada up to about 54 degrees north (the boundary agreed to in the West between Russia and Spain) (At Kensington Stone it changes from geographic North to Magnetic North neatly avoiding overlapping Spanish and French claims).
The Santa Fe Trail begins right there at Daniel Boone's land grant.
The American history along that trail begins in 1821 and by about 1900 folks were commemorating it by placing marker stones of some kind along its course. The Trail mostly followed the courses of the few rivers in the region due to the absence of water anywhere else.
Given that Santa Fe had been thought of as a Spanish/Mexican border town prior to the Mexican Cession, there's really no reason for the Santa Fe Trail to have not existed until that time. It's probably a lot older than we imagine. I suspect it could have been the route followed by the Spanish Surveyors in the 1600s as they sought to get a grasp of where the land north of Mexico really lie.
There's no way they could have done straight line surveying in that region ~ just too many mountains and too desolate ~ but the rivers are permanent features and probably showed up on Spanish maps in the 1600s. They could have laid down markers of some kind ~ I'd look for the letters AVM somewhere on that stone to see if it was authentic (circa 1600s) or later (circa 1900s).
Thanks. Do you know the circumstances?
Still, my suspicion is that it was done during a flurry of stone marking about 1900 (well documented BTW) or earlier by a Spanish surveyor.
So, why would the Spanish surveyor write in Hebrew? Well, maybe he was a Hebrew. He wasn't in Spain. By 1600s open persecution of the Jews in Spain had slacked off, and there were tens of thousands of Moranos whose families kept up the knowledge of Hebrew IN SECRET.
Out there in the middle of nowhere in a small group there were NO SECRETS.
if you look through the pictures of American Indian pictoglyphs and shamen's symbols found in that same region you'll notice the same lack of wear.
BTW, we know of a fellow who was a chuck wagon cook back in the good old days (early 1900s) who wandered all over the Southwest with his uncle and brother ~ chasing cows, etc.
He wrote Japanese characters all over the place ~ kind of like 'Hiro Was Here" ~ in 1942 or thereabouts these characters were discovered, gathered up, and shipped to Army intelligence for evaluation since the finders feared Japanese invasion from Mexico. They ended up at Fort Snelling where his new son inlaw recognized the work!
Archaeologists have also discovered Japanese characters carved into rocks in the Southwest near Zuni territory. They are much older!
BTW, this is also in the vicinity of CLOVIS NM. There are always qualified archaeologists wandering about the territory. It’s one of their favorites ~
The mormon FARMS institute rejects this as evidence as well.
The mormon FARMS institute rejects this as evidence as well.
The mormon FARMS institute rejects this as evidence as well.
The mormon FARMS institute rejects this as evidence as well.
I agree - not even a trace of desert patina. My 12 year old could spot this as a fake. Also the lettering is very straight, which is not indicative of ancient markings, unrelated to a tomb.
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