Skip to comments.Maybe I should just join them.
Posted on 07/03/2011 6:40:43 PM PDT by cableguymn
Here I sit. I just lost my day job, down almost 800 dollars of income a week. They "forgot" to pay me Friday (the day they let me go) even though it was payday. It's been a rough week at my personal business. A trade deal went south between a sign maker and my landlord. I'm caught in the middle with the rent bill. Wife had a mini-stroke but thankfully is doing well and is back to work.
So I was looking forward to a halfway decent weekend enjoying the 4th.
Then the wife comes home. (no. it's not a joke about her)
She tells me the story about my MIL, SIL, her Boyfriend and their kid. All 4 of them live in a 1 br apartment (Knew this) paid for by section 8 (knew this to), with cable tv, cable internet and each one has a cell phone.
she took them shopping.
SIL/boyfriend buy 200 bucks worth of video games and other worthless electronics. Stock up on high end baby crap and other things my kids never had. Push 2 carts around filling them with brand name foods and spendy meat.
Come to find out between the 4 of them they get 3000 dollars in SSI/AFDC payments And close to 1000 in food stamps while basically living rent free. (even part of the electric bill is paid) They get all this stuff even while state government is shut done.
Here I sit, sweating my butt off because I can't afford to run the a/c, no cable tv (I do have a low cost internet connection, won't support online gaming or streaming) with a wife that just recovered from a mini stroke, has type 1 and fybro, 2 autistic kids with learning disabilities and I was working 90+ hours a week trying to support all this along with paying for medical.
I am so damn close to just joining them on the dole.
I was reminded. Wic pays for the kids formula and other food stuffs for them to. But they gave my wife the fruits and veggies they have to get because they won’t eat them.
Do it. You've been paying into the system you whole working life. Do you want to end up in the gutter, along with your sick wife?
Taking advantage of TEMPORARY safety net programs you spent YEARS of taxes to create and sustain is NOT “going on the Dole.” It was for people like you who hit a bad spot.
It is the massive number of people who make these a lifestyle, who have paid little or nothing into the system that are the problem.
Do what you gotta do to take care of your family, take a few days to catch your breath, then make a plan and get started righting your ship.
And do it with your head held high.
Just remember that this life is only temporary.
Your wife will be in my prayers. It may not amount to much, but I quit my job because I was pissed in 2009, drove around for 2 weeks looking for a new job, found one, had to sell my damn house where my family was (didnt see them for 4 months), and then ended up in an apartment that I’m finally getting out of. It took 2 years for us to get on our feet, but I worked 80 hrs (40 full + 40 part) and it’s what a man’s got to do.
It’s your ability to do so that is our downfall...not whether or not you choose to avail yourself of it. That is up to you.
Yup... it’s enough to make anybody say, WTF??
But, here’s the deal... the gravy train is running out of fuel. Before long, anyone dependent on a governmeng check is going to be roaming the streets looking to steal food.
Hang in there. Do the right thing. Take care of your own.
The government built a system which is predestined to blow up in their face. People will take only so much injustice.
I am almost tempted to do the same. The business here in Minnesota is not good, with clients asking for proposals on projects, yet projects seeming to be on infinite hold. The nanny staters are giving me the line about “having more realistic expectations in life”, and the business climate in Texas is very good, with some real inquiries. Good thing I have maintained my business contacts there.
Your story rips my heart out. I am very sorry. I was without work for a few months and now have a month to month contract job. The economy stinks and the left is draining all credit of the country by supplying those suckers like you mentioned.
The little solace is that it won’t last much longer and you will know how to live decently on little while they will have to learn.
We are headed for a massive correction that will harden us all.
Please hang in there.
***Taking advantage of TEMPORARY safety net programs you spent YEARS of taxes to create and sustain is NOT going on the Dole. It was for people like you who hit a bad spot.***
Absolutely! And with your head held high!
We will for somethings. With the state shut down, we can’t do anything on the state level. My job was contract work so no unemployment there.
To get the kind of goodies they have I would have to quit working completely and sell off my business. While it does not make enough to support us (yet) it does pay it’s bills and puts some money in to the household budget every month.
Last time we looked at SSI for the kids (and the wife, she should qualifiy for disability) we where told it’d take years and a lawyer to get it all done.
Still, Tuesday we’ll look in to it again.
We own the house, the land it’s on is rented but cheap enough (mobile home. we’re trying to live with in our means). we won’t be out on our butts but it might be roman noodles for me for a while.
From time to time, almost everyone is tempted by the easy path. Just remember, the price you pay isn’t in gold, it is in self respect and dignity.
The devil comes in many forms, and personally, I wouldn’t trade him my own value of self worth, my own dignity, and my own ability to be my own man for any of the trinkets he offers.
That’s just me, and I’m pretty sure, if you are on this site, and if you are posting this, you are having a moment of weakness, of self doubt, nothing more. The greatest men in the world have moments of self doubt, but when all is said and done, they don’t sell out for a few pieces of gold, and I doubt you will either.
All those cart-loads of video games and nonsense just aren’t worth the price your in-laws will pay in the long term. Just think how their kids are going to grow up viewing their parents, I guarantee it won’t be through the lens of respect or admiration, and because of that, those kids will probably never half self respect either, and we all know where young people without self respect end up.
Keep your course and take the high road my friend. You’ll be glad you did.
Judging by your vanity, go for it. It’s not about you anymore but your wife too. Just remember to get off it once you land back on your feet, but it’s easier said than done.
If there is an issue with feeding your kids you should not hesitate to sign up for food stamps, with the sick wife and disabled kids and sudden loss of income.
You’re not looking at dependency and entitlement as a lifestyle choice, you’re getting over an acute hump until work picks up.
If we all join them.... who’s going to pay for all that stuff??
I’m in Minnesota too.. The company I was contracting with pulled out of Minnesota with out explanation. I am trying to find out who replaced them (the companies they service are all still in operation in MN) so I can try to contract with them.
Houston! Mr FRiend. Jobs galore.
There’s NOTHING wrong with a helping hand up when one is needed!
It’s those that require a hand out that really rubs folks the wrong way!
And my God will supply all your needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus. Phillipians 4:19...
It seems like you need to articulate what is ethical and what is not. Forget about the deadbeat relative.
What would be ethical for you to do right now? Do you really qualify for any of these welfare-type programs? If you do, would your conscience be bothered by utilizing them for a short term?
I can’t answer that question for you. Myself, I’ll take unemployment if I legitimately qualify, because I have unwillingly paid my PREMIUMS for this INSURANCE all my life.
I won’t take food stamps, though. Probably if I were starving, but I’m not. I may qualify but I won’t take them.
I did not take health insurance for myself, although I qualified. But I did take catastrophic care for a young child of mine in a particular, birth defect need. I figured we qualified and it was a real need.
That’s where I have landed. Don’t compromise your personal ethics to get “help.” Decide reasonably what your ethics are. I encourage you to get involved with a good church who can help support you in tangible as well as spiritual ways; where you can also support those who are in need when appropriate. Also, to accept help from family without shame. That is what family is for.
I hear ya, but as others have mentioned the ‘dole’ is a career choice. Everyone needs help at times but that isn’t the dole.
The difference between folks like you and them, is that you know how to work. When they lose their gravy train they will be in deep doo doo. My prayers for you and family.
beats me, china more than likely. they are funding 40% of it now ;)
No advice here. I wish you well.
Enslavement to the state, aka communism.
Why exactly is the reason that none of these people are working? There ought to be some way to report them for fraud.
Mr. cableguymn, you’re no different from the rest of the men on our side, those who are honest that is. Batrachian is absolutely right—you do what you have to do and remember you have done the same for others many times over!
Sure the system is being abused, but that doesn’t apply to you. You do need some time to clear your head and eat some chocolate.
Then, git yer tail down to Texas and enjoy the sun and the wind in your hair. :)
1- Desperate people do desperate things ... and as long as it’s not illegal, unlawful, or immoral ... consider it a temporary option.
2- You have already ‘paid it forward’ and if you need help, temporarily, that’s what it’s there for.
3- The people who take advantage of the system for long periods of time are who have bankrupted this Country. NOT the people like yourself who need temporary assistance until they can get back on their feet.
4- You’re not throwing in the towel ... you’re picking up the pieces you need to rebuild your life.
5- Do it and take notes and tell us about the experience.
6- Take advantage of what’s available while you can ... it’s not going to be available for long, I’m afraid. At least YOU will be able to cope when the support is gone ... many people will not know what to do.
Sounds to me like you’ve been paying your way. I see no reason you shouldn’t take help that’s available to you.
You sound like the type who will do what you can to get back on your feet.
Vent away, just remember, they won’t be on the dole forever and you have the ethic and strength to succeed, it is doubtful they do. Their lifestyle is fleeting.
I don’t qualify for unemployment because I was a contractor. Otherwise I would be all over it as you are right. I paid in to that.
Kids will have health insurance until the end of the year. We’ve never had company provided insurance, however my wife can get it if shes able to keep working 36 hours a week. If not, the kids and her for sure will end up on some sort of medicaid. Type 1 will kill her in no time if we can’t get the supplies she needs.
I’ve been blessed with good health the last 20 years. I just hope that luck continues.
My “family” aside from the already mentioned ones are a bunch of libs. They don’t have any money either.
I’ll get by, like I always do. it’ll be a good 2 months before we are screwed money wise. I’ll look in to the programs needed to keep everyone alive and eating. I’ll also talk to the church we attend this week when I am there for my other job (they are also a client of mine).
I’ll get by, and likely won’t take any assistance until it’s the last resort. Like I said, my head was about to explode. To hear the bitching from our local dem rats about how grandma and what not being thrown out because of the budget.
Not just Houston. Western North Dakota - oil boom. (Winters suck, last from October through March, however.
Thanks for the links. however it says unavailable in my area.
a lot of people simply have no idea what its like. they seem to think the world owes them something.
Hang in there pal. Just let the emotions of today die down a bit and a better outlook for tomorrow. Prayers up for you. Sometimes these little upheavals turn out to be blessings in disguise. Don’t envy the losers—they have their rewards. You’ve got the winners spirit inside of you and keep trusting and speaking Gods word over your life mixed with faith . The tides gonna turn so dont give up or despair!
MIL is disabled. she walks with a cain and has advanced fybro.
SIL is a mental case. shes had jobs, but gets fired. I can’t remember the list of things the dr says she has
Boyfriend is crippled (not not enough to not hold a game controler all day) I think it’s MS that he has.
Nephew is a perfect little boy who I am sure will be corrupted in no time.
One thing this little outing has done is proven to the wife they no longer need our help doing ANYTHING. we’d always get the phone calls at the end of the month about running out of diapers and wipes. I’ve been telling her it’s not our problem.
The Boyfriend even has a PCA that drives him around. Told the wife that PCA can take them shopping next time too.
I know I don’t get stressed out over having to go without.
Cableguymn you are in our prayers, hang in there.
You’ve paid into the system. It’s not the dole if you get temporary support and get back on your own again.
The tenants across the hall from me were being evicted for misbehavior, noise and running a brothel/drug den (they had burned down another unit several buildings down a few months back) and were bragging to me. They’re moving to a 3 bedroom, 2 bath apartment in a nicer complex and it’ll only cost them $143/month. We pay about $750/mo., plus utilities for our crappy, roach-infested 2/1. How can you not be mad?
Most of the Texas inquiries I have been getting have been from plants on the Ship Channel. After 10 years in the Twin Cities putting up with whiney do nothing liberals, I find Deer Park and Pasedena more to my liking. I could never get used to the Minneapolis “culture” of far left liberalism. Ready to go back to the “rednecks”.
I so not believe you.
I hear you. I’m making about 30/year working 6 days a week. Then I read about the moocher collecting 42 G’s a year, child subsidy, for her 8 kids. I think,”What the hell am I working for?” Maybe we should overwhelm them with applications for OUR fair share.
October through May this year.
Then the rains started.
But, man, you are right, they are making oil, fer sure. And money too.
Some just know how to work the system. It seems like every couple of days the U.S. loses one of its treasured entrepreneurs, This one died at 25 from gunshot wounds.
It took me a couple of minutes to get it, but imagine, He’s 25 and has 3 sons and 6 daughters. Nine welfare recipients collecting $ 1500 each. That equals $13,500 a month! Now add food stamps, free medical, free school lunches, on and on and on. Now they will collect social security until they are 18! Do the math, that’s over $156,000.00 a year. And people wonder what is wrong with our country!
Its Obozo fault, and every member of Congress who allows this to happen million of times and in a thousand places. It has to stop!!!
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