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How to tell real whiskey from fake -- faster
http://www.physorg.com ^ | July 25, 2011 | Provided by University of Strathclyde

Posted on 07/25/2011 10:38:33 AM PDT by Red Badger

Methods for distinguishing between authentic and counterfeit Scotch whisky brands have been devised by scientists at the University of Strathclyde in Glasgow.

Researchers from the Department of Pure and Applied Chemistry have found new ways to compare the content of whisky samples to determine if they are the whisky on the label or an imitation brand.

A series of blind tests successfully put the real whisky brand and the fakes in the right categories. The system could enhance the technology industry uses to tackle the trade in illicit whisky, which costs huge sums in lost revenue and threatens brand reputation.

Professor David Littlejohn, who led the research, said: "The whisky industry has tools at its disposal for telling authentic and counterfeit whisky brands apart but many of them involve lab-based analysis, which isn't always the most convenient system if a sample needs to be identified quickly.

"There's a growing need for methods that can provide simpler and faster identification and we have developed a system which could be adapted for devices to use on site, without the need to return samples to a lab. It could be of great benefit to an industry which is hugely important to the economy."

The researchers analysed 17 samples of blended whisky, looking at the concentration of ethanol in the samples without diluting them and the residue of dried whisky. They did so with mid-infrared spectrometry, used with immersion probes that incorporate novel optical fibres developed by Scottish based company Fibre Photonics Ltd, who co-sponsored the research. The procedures developed can provide prompt, accurate analysis without the complexity and cost of some other systems.

The levels of ethanol and colourant led them to identify correctly the eight authentic and nine counterfeit samples.

The project research paper has been published in Analytica Chimica Acta.


TOPICS: Food; Science
KEYWORDS: alcohol; beverage; scotch; whiskey
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Quikker likker picker?..................
1 posted on 07/25/2011 10:38:42 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Just stick with the “Dewar’s White Label” if you’re looking for a quality blended whiskey....you’ll be fine.


2 posted on 07/25/2011 10:40:18 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: Logic n' Reason

Black Velvet, if you please......................


3 posted on 07/25/2011 10:41:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Red Badger

“blended whisky”

There’s your problem right there.


4 posted on 07/25/2011 10:41:22 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

I like ‘blended’.................


5 posted on 07/25/2011 10:42:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Logic n' Reason

How do you know the brown liquid in that “Dewar’s White Label” bottle is really “Dewar’s White Label” whisky?


6 posted on 07/25/2011 10:42:50 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Red Badger

If you can’t tell simply by tasting it then what’s the point?


7 posted on 07/25/2011 10:42:53 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Red Badger

Glen Fiddich and that’s that


8 posted on 07/25/2011 10:43:12 AM PDT by albie
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To: DManA

Counterfeiters.
Black market.
Da Mob.......................


9 posted on 07/25/2011 10:45:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Red Badger

I would think the spectrometry could easily distinguish between geniune peat smoke and gym sock residue.


10 posted on 07/25/2011 10:45:31 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Red Badger
Funny you should mention Black Velvet, almost indistinguishable from Crown Royal.
11 posted on 07/25/2011 10:47:51 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: caver

Agreed


12 posted on 07/25/2011 10:49:17 AM PDT by StarfireIV ((Atlas Punted))
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To: eastforker

I like both....................


13 posted on 07/25/2011 10:49:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Red Badger

The Chinese and Japanese are not going to like this one bit!


14 posted on 07/25/2011 10:50:10 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red Badger

Oh yea, lots of people do.


15 posted on 07/25/2011 10:50:50 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Talisker

ping


16 posted on 07/25/2011 10:51:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: USMCPOP

I would think the spectrometry could easily distinguish between geniune peat smoke and gym sock residue.

We use only the cleanest of gym socks, for your information!.............

17 posted on 07/25/2011 10:52:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Red Badger

My guests don’t realize that my MD 20/20 bottles actually contain the cheaper Wild Irish Rose, I have been getting away with it for years.


18 posted on 07/25/2011 10:52:55 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: Red Badger
"Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker."

- Ogden Nash

19 posted on 07/25/2011 10:53:44 AM PDT by JPG (Palin '12)
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To: Red Badger

20 posted on 07/25/2011 10:53:44 AM PDT by no gnu taxes
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To: ansel12
My guests don’t realize that my MD 20/20 bottles actually contain the cheaper Wild Irish Rose, I have been getting away with it for years.

Have you heard? What's the Word? It's Thunderbird!

21 posted on 07/25/2011 10:54:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: no gnu taxes

They still make that stuff?................


22 posted on 07/25/2011 10:55:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Red Badger

You’d be surprised what they still make.


23 posted on 07/25/2011 10:56:58 AM PDT by no gnu taxes
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To: ansel12

That’s not kosher................


24 posted on 07/25/2011 10:57:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: no gnu taxes

I suppose Burma Shave and the Fuller brush are still around somewhere............


25 posted on 07/25/2011 10:59:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Red Badger
A whiskery kiss
For the one
You adore
May not make her mad
But her face will be sore!!!

Burma-Shave

26 posted on 07/25/2011 11:04:31 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: Red Badger

27 posted on 07/25/2011 11:06:05 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Red Badger

What’s the matter with Convenient Supermarket’s top shelf whiskey?


28 posted on 07/25/2011 11:10:28 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Logic n' Reason

Ditto on the Dewars and Bomar for a good single malt.


29 posted on 07/25/2011 11:11:04 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ansel12; dfwgator

http://www.bumwine.com/


30 posted on 07/25/2011 11:12:22 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: dfwgator

whats the price? Forty twice!


31 posted on 07/25/2011 11:15:38 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: albie

Once you try ‘Laphroaigh’ you will say Glen Who?


32 posted on 07/25/2011 11:17:16 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: laweeks

I don’t know what you’re referring to, since I live in Florida and supermarkets don’t sell liquor here..........................


33 posted on 07/25/2011 11:17:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Red Badger
I don’t know what you’re referring to, since I live in Florida and supermarkets don’t sell liquor here..

I live up here in Ohio, and you used to be able to buy hard liquor . . . kinda' generic and watered down . . . at some of our convenience stores. I doubt if they sell it anymore.

35 posted on 07/25/2011 11:30:45 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Red Badger; alarm rider; stump56; bcsco; PJ-Comix; kimmie7; MissDairyGoodnessVT; Paul Heinzman; ...

Bourbon List Ping!


36 posted on 07/25/2011 11:33:08 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: laweeks

Ours sell beer and wine only. Liquor is sold in a stand-alone store. It may be adjacent, but must be separate. When I was in Europe, 10 years back, I was surprised to see liquor sold in grocery stores...............


37 posted on 07/25/2011 11:33:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
If it's not Scottish ...

Careful there, you might get someone's Irish up, let alone Tennessee or Kentucky!

38 posted on 07/25/2011 11:35:47 AM PDT by SES1066 (1776 to 2011, 235 years and counting in the GRAND EXPERIMENT!)
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To: Logic n' Reason

In my experience, the term “quality blended whisk[e]y” is an oxymoron. White Label is better than most, certainly, but the whole point of drinking whisky in the first place is to be drinking something that is unique, and not homogenized for mass consumption.

Now, that’s personal opinion and taste on my part.

The reason why I grew up not wanting to touch any product of Dewar’s, however good the quality might be, is that I was taught from an age well before I could drink that Joe P. Kennedy Sr. had been the sole agent for Dewar’s in the US and that all those among the Scots diaspora who were drinking any Dewar’s product, thinking they were getting a taste of the homeland, were in fact enriching the contemptible Kennedy clan of Catholic Irish.


39 posted on 07/25/2011 11:50:31 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: ansel12
My guests don’t realize that my MD 20/20 bottles actually contain the cheaper Wild Irish Rose, I have been getting away with it for years.

I was working a job that required me to visit a spirits bottling plant. They had a 10,000 gallon container of vodka. The same vodka was then bottled under at least ten different labels (as well as bottle sizes/shapes and makes - glass or plastic), all with a different price point and destined for different markets around the area.

40 posted on 07/25/2011 11:52:13 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Red Badger
Ours sell beer and wine only. Liquor is sold in a stand-alone store. It may be adjacent, but must be separate. When I was in Europe, 10 years back, I was surprised to see liquor sold in grocery stores...............

Come visit New Mexico. Beer, wine and spirits, with smokes, or smokeless, or even roll your own, all at Walgreens (and other places, of course, but selection may vary).

41 posted on 07/25/2011 11:55:13 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Come visit New Mexico. Beer, wine and spirits, with smokes, or smokeless, or even roll your own, all at Walgreens (and other places, of course, but selection may vary).

Some of the Walmarts sell all this, and they have rifles, shotguns and ammo, too. Bet they don't get visits from the BATFEIEIO, though.

42 posted on 07/25/2011 11:58:50 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Our liquor stores used to be able to sell mixed drinks at the DRIVE IN WINDOW!..........long ago.................


43 posted on 07/25/2011 12:02:59 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: IYAS9YAS
I was working a job that required me to visit a spirits bottling plant. They had a 10,000 gallon container of vodka. The same vodka was then bottled under at least ten different labels (as well as bottle sizes/shapes and makes - glass or plastic), all with a different price point and destined for different markets around the area.

A Smirnoff Vice president said something similar in the 1960s or early 70s.

44 posted on 07/25/2011 12:05:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

There is a grain processing plant in Muscatine, Iowa that bottled at least a dozen different brands of vodka, all from the same vat.


45 posted on 07/25/2011 12:08:10 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Red Badger
Well from the Cajun's younger days (Much younger), he has found that establishments selling liquor and also featuring scantly clad dancing girls, seldom sell the best whiskey..........Just an observation from yesteryear.
46 posted on 07/25/2011 12:08:54 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Red Badger
Real whiskey comes in one of these......

47 posted on 07/25/2011 12:09:13 PM PDT by fredhead (I'm not sleeping, I'm checking my eyelids for cracks.)
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To: Logic n' Reason
"...Just stick with the “Dewar’s White Label” if you’re looking for a quality blended whiskey....you’ll be fine....."

While traveling internationally I once picked up a bottle of Dewar's Special Reserve, 43%. I found it in a duty free shop; I haven't seen it here in the States, at least not where I live.

One of the best scotches I've ever tasted. Magnificent stuff...

48 posted on 07/25/2011 12:16:23 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Red Badger

Ahhh...

The days of getting a “gimlet-to-go” at the drive-up in Casper, WY are a long-cherished memory.


49 posted on 07/25/2011 12:26:07 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: The Cajun

I’m sure you didn’t go there for the liquor..................


50 posted on 07/25/2011 12:31:23 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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