Posted on 07/28/2011 1:21:22 PM PDT by Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys
It would appear that a Perry/Rubio Ticket is Obama's worst nightmare.{Agreed?}If not,even a Perry/Romney ticket would also cause a 55/45 Landslide in 2012. The best advantage with Perry is that he represents the deep red south! Obama can kiss North Carolina,Colorado & Florida good-bye.Nevada? well,Obama can kiss Nevada good-bye as well so long as Harry Reid doesn't try to pull a fast one again with his union buddies "Upgrading The Voting Machines". A Perry/Bachmann ticket will work well too,but we need Rubio more.Marco Rubio=65% Of Hispanice Votes.
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“we need Rubio more. Marco Rubio=65% Of Hispanice Votes.”
You’re dreaming, my FRiend.
I’ll make a fearless Grumplestiltskin prediction right here and now:
In 2012, Republicans will be lucky to get 25-30% of “the Hispanic vote”, even with Rubio on the ticket.
His “Hispanic-ness” will make about as much difference as Herman Cain’s “blackness” would make if _he_ were to be the Republican candidate - which is very little indeed.
And one other thing that you can be SURE of — If Rubio is nominated as VP, watch for a barrage from the left and [even moreso] from the media, challenging his qualifications as “a natural born citizen”. It WILL happen. There is considerable disagreement as to whether he meets the Constitutional qualifications for the presidency, even amongst those right here on FR. I’m not going to take sides either way. But to deny that this won’t happen is a-whistlin’ past the political graveyard...
Just sayin’...
Which, should it come to fruition, gives Obama the win in a walk. I don't like Romney either, but that's the reality we face.
For the dems, yes.
It may be that by Nov 2012, neither party wants to win, and the positions and platforms may look surrealistic, even more than the surrealistic show going on right now with debt ceilings and borrowing and spending, and ....lying.
I’m all for a Perry run. I think he would knock the socks off Obama, and while Perry has his flaws, he is dependable for states rights, anti federal government, and conservative financial measures. He is also pro life which for me used to be the first level of decision making although now with Obama, it seems we have all sorts of things we need to be concerned about at the same time.
I would hate to see Perry and Mitt Romney together. First of all, too much “hair upon the head” there. Secondly, as much as I like Perry as a candidate against Obama, picking Romney as a running mate would tell me Perry doesn’t have any sense... or taste for that matter. I don’t think Perry would pick Romney anyway. While Perry fits the bill for most of the Tea Party values, he has flown the coup a couple of times with some of his stands (understandable in context for the most part but surely still a little odd), and he will be fighting to prove his worth to the Tea Partiers. If he got in bed with Romeny, he would lose all ground with them, I think.
I like the Perry / Rubio combo. Is it true Rubio isn’t a natural born citizen and would therefore be ineligible? Sad if so. That would be a great combination.
Palin and Perry would go nicely together too, quite nicely, and their hair styles actually compliment one another. (JK)
Personally, I would love to get Ohio governor John Kasich as a VP candidate with Rick Perry or even visa versa — Perry from Texas and Kasich from Ohio... two big states, and you never know with Ohio how they’ll go on the national level. I don’t think anyone is talking about John Kasich, and maybe he is too busy with Ohio right now, but I sure just like that man both politically and personally.
His parents were not US citizens at the time of his birth.
New Mexico is over 50% Hispanic, and the Tea Party candidate for Governor won last year by a fairly healthy 4% margin. LOTS of Hispanics are conservative. Where are you from, California? 'Cause that WOULD explain your pessimism.
At the time of his birth, however, he would be considered a citizen because the Constitution had not been changed to say that he wouldn’t be.
Yes, in Miami in 1971.
That makes him NATIVE born but not NATURAL Born.
http://www.birthers.org/USC/Vattel.html
That site covers NBC as it was understood to the founders. The concept of birth within the country to two citizen parents was so widely understood by people with knowledge of international law in 1787 that the text of the Constitution was very brief on the subject. Vattel was the acknowledged authority.
SCOTUS has dealt with citizenship and native born citizenship but it has never dealt with NBC. The old sources remain the best.
I would think he would be eligible.
And I would think NOT. Moreover, I believe that Marco KNOWS he is not eligible, which is why I believe he so adamantly refuses to consider being on the GOP ticket.
If HE is eligible, so is Obama. Meaning that for some folks, ANYTHING GOES.
BTW, Marco is smart enough not to deal with this. He realizes that it is not his fault. If his parents had gotten naturalized in the ‘60’s, that would have been enough. But they delayed doing it. We Tea Partiers here in Florida have had to undertake a great deal of research to get the facts about his folks. The evidence is that the dad became a citizen in ‘74 and the mom after that.
Rubio has become a good senator already. I was a very early supporter of his against Crist and I’m delighted in how he has turned out. Replacing McConnell is a reasonable goal for him and I think he’ll be great as GOP Leader in the Senate.
I don’t care how talented or how popular Marco is, the Constitution is more important than political expediency.
And we need to take a STRICT view of its precepts and not just grab any joker whom we think will attract votes, a la Obama.
“the Constitution is more important than political expediency”
Change it so that people born here to non-citizen parents aren’t citizens then. Until you do that ... Rubio is eligible.
As an Ohioan, I like him, voted for him and think he's doing a great job here. That said, he is not VP material simply because of his big mouth. He doesn't think before he speaks and I don't mean in a funny or silly way like Biden. I agree with the message in this video, but he could have chosen a better way of wording it in public.
Here it is:
Wrong.
Going by polls at this point is close to useless. People are responding mostly on name recognition, a little bit on basic resume.
But that’s not how they vote. They vote on the likability of the candidate, how closely they’re aligned with them on issues, how the handle the rigors of the campaign, whether they want to see them in their living rooms for the next four years, etc..
It already says that they are not natural born. They are however native born.
Rubio is eligible to everyone except birthers. And nobody is listening to birthers much these days.
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