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Ind. vouchers prompt thousands to change schools
AP ^ | Aug. 28, 2011 | TOM COYNE

Posted on 08/28/2011 10:39:08 AM PDT by PROCON

SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) - Weeks after Indiana began the nation's broadest school voucher program, thousands of students have transferred from public to private schools, causing a spike in enrollment at some Catholic institutions that were only recently on the brink of closing for lack of pupils. It's a scenario public school advocates have long feared: Students fleeing local districts in large numbers, taking with them vital tax dollars that often end up at parochial schools. Opponents say the practice violates the separation of church and state.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education
KEYWORDS: homeschool; indiana; schoolchoice; schoolvouchers; vouchers
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To: max americana

Fantastic! I used to love saying the pledge (including under God) and then going to church before class. It gave a feeling of security.

That’s what a good education does. That’s why libs hate it so much. You get a great education, love of God and country, whereas public schools just don’t care for the most part.


21 posted on 08/28/2011 12:01:08 PM PDT by mardi59
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To: Forgotten Amendments

How is it wrong for parents to CHOOSE to send their kids to parochial schools. This is awesome news. :)


22 posted on 08/28/2011 12:07:43 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: mardi59

Actually, it was the Lord’s Prayer and the raising of the flag before entering class. You almost never see that anymore.

We even had a sister school, St Scholastica, where you see in the movies the boys school would visit the coed school? Yeah, that happened every semester. I would make sure to get 10 girls’ phone numbers LOL.


23 posted on 08/28/2011 12:17:36 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: PROCON
It's a scenario public school advocates have long feared:

Yes. Dictators fear a free Republic.
24 posted on 08/28/2011 12:20:35 PM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: max americana

That sounds about right... the phone numbers. The sisters at our school didn’t take any nonsense and could use a ruler like a Jedi Knight. Oh the memories. LOL


25 posted on 08/28/2011 12:27:18 PM PDT by mardi59
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To: Forgotten Amendments

And your ideal educational environment is...?


26 posted on 08/28/2011 12:35:18 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Most of the colleges in the United States that started over 300 years ago were Bible-proclaiming schools originally. Harvard and Yale (originally Puritan) and Princeton (originally Presbyterian) once had rich Christian histories.

Harvard was named after a Christian minister. Yale was started by clergymen, and Princeton’s first year of class was taught by Reverend Jonathan Dickinson. Princeton’s crest still says “Dei sub numine viget,” which is Latin for “Under God she flourishes.”

In the United Kingdom, the earliest university-type establishment was probably the College, established by the Celtic preacher St. Illtyd in about AD 500. Oxford University was established by various religious orders. Likewise, Cambridge University was established in 1209 by Christian leaders. Saint Andrews, Scotland’s oldest university, was founded principally for the teaching and study of theology. The commitment of these religious founders might be suspect, but many of the later colleges were founded by Bible-believing Christians. The University of Edinburgh had a thoroughly evangelical beginning, being founded under Presbyterian auspices.”

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n3/harvard-yale-princeton-oxford-once-christian


27 posted on 08/28/2011 12:40:50 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: BBell

“Imagine that, Indiana following the lead of a backward Southern state like Louisiana.”

You obviously have NOT read the MSM style book.

The phrase is NOT “a backward Southern state”. It must be written “Backward-Southern-State”. There are no other types of Southern states. Florida south of Ft Pierce does not count, as there are sufficient enlightened people from the North to serve as an antidote.

/sarc


28 posted on 08/28/2011 12:49:56 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: PROCON

Parents just ought to say I have a right to send my kid to the school I want. My tax dollars, my right. You don’t want to give me a voucher, stop forcing me to pay public school taxes that I don’t use.


29 posted on 08/28/2011 12:50:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: PROCON
Taking the money can be a Trojan horse.

They may demand the stings of controlling the curriculum.

30 posted on 08/28/2011 12:56:16 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: BwanaNdege
And your ideal educational environment is...?

HOME!!!

31 posted on 08/28/2011 1:37:32 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Days .... Weeks ..... Months .....)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks PROCON.


32 posted on 08/28/2011 4:37:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Safetgiver
"Students fleeing local districts in large numbers, taking with them vital tax dollars....How does that Happen?"

Schools get tax dollars based on number of students... 1 less student = "x" less tax dollars. 2 less Students = "2x" less tax dollars. Further if I read the Indiana Law right those Vouchers are funded with Tax Dollars. (Though much less than what the public school got for the student)

I wish when my daughter was going to Catholic School we could have gotten a voucher!

33 posted on 08/28/2011 4:48:31 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: PROCON
Students fleeing local districts in large numbers, taking with them vital tax dollars that often end up at parochial schools.
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Vital? Really? Vital to whom? Huh?

Answer: Vital to the Union and the Democrat slush fund.

34 posted on 08/28/2011 4:51:19 PM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: ThomasMore
It's the parents money. Let them spend it on a school of their choice.
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It's only partly from the parents. The rest comes from those who do not have children of K-12 age.

Ideally there should be complete separation of school and state. All education (**ALL** )should be completely and totally privatized. If vouchers, tax credits, and charters lead in that direction then I support them. If they lead to government control of private education then I don't.

35 posted on 08/28/2011 4:58:01 PM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: BwanaNdege; Forgotten Amendments
And your ideal educational environment is...?
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The most ideal and natural way to rear up healthy, emotionally confident, and well educated children is to homeschool.

Yes, some children will need to be institutionalized. It is a shame. Some parents are just too stupid, too materialistic, too selfish, too career minded, too mentally ill, too poor, too illiterate, too disorganized, etc., to homeschool. We need orphanages, too, but no one is claiming this is the best way to rear a child.

36 posted on 08/28/2011 5:05:10 PM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Sacajaweau

The first colleges in America weren’t “’Christian Run’ schools” ... they were seminaries where religious leaders were trained.


37 posted on 08/28/2011 5:10:57 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (Joined the Obama economy on 19 March, 2010. Found part-time work on 12 Feb, 2011.)
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To: mardi59

Okay, let me get this straight for the liberal rule book I’m trying to put together:

I’m qualified to choose whether or not to abort my baby but not qualified enough to decide where my non-aborted baby receives an education?


38 posted on 08/28/2011 5:17:58 PM PDT by nodumbblonde ("The ladder of success is best climbed by stepping on the rungs of opportunity." - Ayn Rand)
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To: nodumbblonde
I’m qualified to choose whether or not to abort my baby but not qualified enough to decide where my non-aborted baby receives an education?
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In Marxist-land, a 12 or 13 year old is mature enough to “elect” an abortion and find a capable baby butcher, but her parents are too uncaring and too stupid to choose a private school.

39 posted on 08/28/2011 5:27:56 PM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: nodumbblonde

Keeping the status quo is easier than
innovating. If vouchers are going to “siphon money from government schools” why isn’t the same true in higher education?

I don’t hear state college professors running around crying about Pell grant(”government dollars”)money “unfairly” being used to attend St.Thomas,Gustavus,St.Johns or other private religiously affiliated schools.

What happened to the magic wall between “church and state” there?


40 posted on 08/29/2011 5:53:39 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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