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When the Cop Says Stop What do you do when you know your area's bike laws, but the police don't?
Bicycling.com ^ | Bob Mionske

Posted on 09/18/2011 7:32:42 AM PDT by Immerito

A few months ago, I received a phone call from a cyclist with an incredible story about an incident in Lawrence County, Ohio. Because the cyclist-a guy named Tony Patrick-was in need of an attorney, I hooked him up with Steve Magas, a contributing author to Bicycling & the Law, and a well-known bicycling attorney in Ohio. After hearing Tony's story, Steve took his case. More about that later; first, let me tell you about Tony.

Weekdays, Tony runs his small construction company in Huntington, West Virginia. Weeknights, and weekends, Tony, a Cat 2 racer, can often be found hanging out at Jeff's Bike Shop-that is, when he's not out on a training ride, or racing. And that's not unusual; Jeff's Bike Shop is the center of a vibrant racing scene in Huntington, the second-largest city in West Virginia, and the home of Marshall University.

That racing scene means regular training rides, all of which start out and end up at Jeff's. There's a ride every other day, each geared to a different set of riders, but the real hammerfest is the Tuesday night ride. That's the ride where the locals try, as Tony puts it, to hurt each other over the course of a 23-34 mile route that takes them across the Ohio River, into the back roads of southern Ohio, before looping back across the river into Huntington.

And that's how Tony found himself just outside of Chesapeake, Ohio, one Tuesday night in August of 2008, heading into town to take the bridge back across to Huntington. Tony was riding with "Ryan," a then-16 year old nationally-ranked racer with a 4.2 GPA. ["Ryan" is a pseudonym; I've concealed his identity because he's a minor.]

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1 posted on 09/18/2011 7:32:47 AM PDT by Immerito
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To: Immerito

Lesson here is to stay out of Ohio.


2 posted on 09/18/2011 7:40:35 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Immerito
If Tony runs a construction company, why doesn't he build tracks/training/riding paths for him and his buds?

He obviously doesn't have enough sense to stay off the roads where death is one splat away.

3 posted on 09/18/2011 7:44:29 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Immerito

Having lived in mountain communities and beach communities with riders, I find they are a pain in the ass. They do not obey traffic laws, they ride in clumps impeding traffic (when paths are provided) and generally obnoxious sots.
I have little sympathy for them when for years I have seen how they “obey the law” - they don’t.


4 posted on 09/18/2011 7:44:54 AM PDT by svcw ( http://www.internetlastpage.com)
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To: Immerito

The article writer took 9 pages to tell his story. Seems to be impressed with himself and love the cyclists.


5 posted on 09/18/2011 7:48:32 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Disgusted with the establishment GOP and their enablers.)
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To: svcw

“they ride in clumps impeding traffic (when paths are provided) and generally obnoxious sots.”

They scuff your paint job when you swat them with a fender as well....


6 posted on 09/18/2011 7:49:24 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: rawcatslyentist
He obviously doesn't have enough sense to stay off the roads where death is one splat away.

I guess all walkers, people walking their dogs, runners, kid on bikes, etc should stay off the roads, too. Right? Roads are for cars only. Right?

7 posted on 09/18/2011 7:50:58 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Rebelbase

Well he was writing for a cycling site, I supposed his love of cyclists could surprise some people.


8 posted on 09/18/2011 7:51:14 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Rebelbase
The article writer took 9 pages to tell his story.

When I got to the bottom of the first page and realized that, I bailed.

Naked blog-hit pimping.

9 posted on 09/18/2011 7:51:45 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: rawcatslyentist
why doesn't he build tracks/training/riding paths for him and his buds

I bike at least twice a week when the weather is good, and I agree with you 100%.

Bicyclists should have no right to be on a road, period. When you think about it, it doesn't even make sense. A bike going 5 mph sharing a road with cars going 35 mph?

As you said, if you want to bike, find a bike trail.

10 posted on 09/18/2011 7:51:57 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Immerito

Is this article actually 10+ pages long? According to the link, it is.


11 posted on 09/18/2011 7:55:49 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Immerito

After suffering through that article, I would have entitled it “When A-holes Collide”, the cop was one, and the bikers were not to far off the mark either.


12 posted on 09/18/2011 7:57:41 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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This cop certainly seems to have delusions of grandeur as well as anger management issues. This deputy needs to be fired and the prosecutors who defended this idiot’s action before a judge need to be sanctioned and disciplined by the court. This is totally outrageous and the taxpayers are going to get hammered in this case when it gets to court.


13 posted on 09/18/2011 7:58:37 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

HUH? I do not pass them on mountain roads, as much as I would love to knock them over I don’t.
Bike paths have plenty of room if they road single file like the are supposed to - they don’t. That’s why its called impeding traffic.
The worst offenders are the ones with the “special” racing colors and those helmets that make them look like their heads are deformed.......


14 posted on 09/18/2011 7:59:14 AM PDT by svcw ( http://www.internetlastpage.com)
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To: Immerito

When a cop says “Pull over”, you better pull over. Why argue with him? Not that cops are always right. But they are always cops. You get a lot further being nice than arguing with them over a traffice issue.


15 posted on 09/18/2011 7:59:30 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: svcw
The worst problem is that in my town bicyclist refuse to obey stop signs or stop lights. If there is one anyplace near you, best to not move until they are gone.

I speak from experience as I had one dart right in front of my car when I was going 5 miles an hour with the light and he was riding in the crosswalk, not on the road. Luckily he was not seriously injured, tried to flush marijuana and was not wearing a helmet. In addition, many observers in the area told the police that I was a total victim. Of course, he was a minor and I had to handle the repairs to my car with my insurance only.

I personally think that bicyclists need to learn to share the road, or get off the road. I could not live with myself if I seriously hurt a bicyclist, but they must learn to be responsible or they will die. It is as simple as that.

16 posted on 09/18/2011 8:00:24 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: Immerito
"I have got as much right to the road as anyone else," and continued riding towards town.

Yep, and many on two wheels will be willing to lose a fight with a 1 ton vehicle to prove it.....idiots!

17 posted on 09/18/2011 8:00:52 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Immerito

Simple common sense: when the cop says “stop” you stop. If the cop is wrong you’ll have your day in court to demonstrate that. To ignore the order to stop only needlessly escalates the situation.


18 posted on 09/18/2011 8:01:04 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Terrorism is nothing more than Kinetic Islam)
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To: Immerito

This cyclists license an tags an proof of liability an collision insurance gives him all the authority he needs to be on the road like the rest of the drivers on the roads........:o)

Physics an safety be dammed ....spandex vs steel phhhhtttt..;o)

This story is he said we said BS.


19 posted on 09/18/2011 8:01:26 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: MasterGunner01

The deputy doesn’t need to be fired, he needs to be criminally charged. Oh, and fired.


20 posted on 09/18/2011 8:01:56 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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