Skip to comments.No-contact order over a student's rosary
Posted on 09/26/2011 2:15:27 PM PDT by Morgana
A high school student from Eastern Washington got a restraining order against his principal, after claiming the school leader threatened to use a pocketknife and to cut off a rosary the teen wears around his neck.
18-year-old Roel Corral, a student at Kiona-Benton City High School, is Catholic and wears a rosary to school. He says principal Wayne Barrett told him to remove it and threatened him, according to the Tri-City Herald newspaper which has been following this story.
Corral won a court hearing that ordered Barrett to stay at least 100 feet away from Corral, but earlier this week the judge's decision was modified to 25 feet on school property or at school events. The principal said the original order would have made it impossible for him to do his job.
If the principal threatened the student, which he denies, that's one issue. The question I have for you - is the principal right or wrong to ask Corral to remove a rosary from his neck? Here's the school's dress code:
(Excerpt) Read more at mynorthwest.com ...
I agree. Yutes these days are more likely to think they are. They should be carried in a pocket and used in prayer.
It does seem to fit the “Dangling chains of any kind” category.
This is ten miles from me; I have concluded that at some level the Rosary-necklace was intended as a gang symbol. However, the principal’s alleged threatening of actual physical violence (with the knife), if it occurred, seems to surpass the boy’s act in notoriety. I am a Catholic and pray the Rosary daily but would never think to hang it as a necklace.
A Rosary is not jewelry and should not be worn about the neck as a necklace. It should be carried in the pocket and be brought out for prayers and then returned to the pocket.
Beam me up, Scottie.
When was atheism declared the Official State Non-religion in the politburo or the supreme soviet?
I mean, if we are now the USSA, let’s at least cross the t’s and dot the i’s, and do it by the book.
Correct, this is not Catholic practice to wear the rosary outside, as jewelry.
But in a more general 1st Amd, sense, it is protected religious “speech.” Criminy, we now have Sikhs in the Army wearing bloody turbans.
So no way can the Official State Atheism Board rule out wearing a rosary. Unless the hijabs and turbans etc go as well.
>>>The principal said the original order would have made it impossible for him to do his job. <<<
I would think the fact that he is a moronic bully already makes it impossible for him to do his job.
I wonder what would happen if he threatened to cut off a muslim student’s head scarf?
Establishment of a religion--I don't think so.
Now for those spacey systems that make the students dress the part and become, say, Muslims for a day to "understand" that religion, yeah!--that is Waaaaay beyond the pale.
According to whom?
Maybe not by English Catholics, yes, but different cultures have different norms wrt rosary.
There is NO religiously, politically, culturally, or First Amendment neutral solution!
1) Removing the rosary has NON-neutral political, cultural, religious, and First Amendment and freedom of conscience consequences!
2) Allowing the rosary has non-neutral political, cultural, religious, and First Amendment and freedom of conscience consequences.
3) Both wearing and not wearing is not an option! Either choice #1 or #2 must be made.
So?....When will conservatives “get it”? A RELIGIOUSLY, POLITICALLY, and CULTURALLY NEUTRAL EDUCATION IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!
ALL GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS ARE FIRST AMENDMENT AND FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE ABOMINATION!
Solution: Begin the process of privatizing all education. Move toward complete separation of school and state.
( And Yeah! I am shouting. I am exasperated that so few conservatives “get it” or see the threat that government K-12 schooling is to our very existence as a free nation.)
If the kid were a practicing Catholic, he would have said “Yes, sir” and put the rosary inconspicuously in his pants pocket or backpack. It is to be prayed, not warn as a personal fashion statement.
“Criminy, we now have Sikhs in the Army wearing bloody turbans”
So. I wore a kippah if I was not otherwise covered.
Ki-Be is near Tri-Cities, not Spokane.
Plenty of gangs though.
This seems more an anti-religious beef than anti-gang.
Wrong crowds complaining.
(or usual suspects not)
As a Catholic, I find it insulting to wear a rosary around the neck. I am on the Principal’s side. I hope the kid gets zero out of this.
Could be a crucifix, not a rosary.
Reporters can’t get a single gun detail correct, it’s possible they don’t know how to to handle articles of Christianity either.
It is impossible to know from the article the religious beliefs of this youth. His religion may be very syncretic ( a combination of pagan Mexican, South or Central American Indian beliefs and Catholicism.)
My husband and I speak Spanish and were asked by our church leaders to join the Spanish speaking congregation in our county. You would be **amazed** at what people believe.
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