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Terraformer alert: Habitable planets orbit 1/3 of Sun-like stars
Blastr ^ | 09/28/11 | Matthew Jackson

Posted on 09/28/2011 4:05:11 PM PDT by KevinDavis

The Kepler orbiting observatory research team found more than 1,200 exoplanets in its first 136 days of operation. Using their data, other researchers are now calculating that there may be many, many more—so many, in fact, that we might find habitable worlds around one-third of all Sun-like stars.

The Kepler research team's findings, released earlier this year, revealed evidence of 1,235 exoplanets found after viewing some 150,000 target stars. That's a big haul for just a fraction of a year's work, but it's only a tiny portion of the universe.

(Excerpt) Read more at blastr.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: earth; science; space

1 posted on 09/28/2011 4:05:17 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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To: Jack Hydrazine; ELS; ToxicMich; TheOldLady; Oiao; nepppen; Vaquero; originalbuckeye; Kevmo; ...



2 posted on 09/28/2011 4:06:30 PM PDT by KevinDavis (What has Ron Paul done in Congress??)
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3 posted on 09/28/2011 4:08:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: KevinDavis

Yeah, but how many are already ‘occuped’, and don’t want newbies?


4 posted on 09/28/2011 4:09:56 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: KevinDavis

But ya kant git thar frum heah.


5 posted on 09/28/2011 4:11:55 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Perry is STILL a DemonRAT of the worst kind--one who is from Texass!)
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To: KevinDavis
Job 9:

9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.

10 Which doeth great things past finding out; yea, and wonders without number.

6 posted on 09/28/2011 4:12:44 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: SatinDoll

They can keep the planet.

We’ll just take everything of value off the planet.


7 posted on 09/28/2011 4:14:53 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: KevinDavis

Can we send the wicked and the progressives there, to start their own thing?


8 posted on 09/28/2011 4:15:24 PM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk; All

Naw, I would like to go.. They can stay..


9 posted on 09/28/2011 4:19:37 PM PDT by KevinDavis (What has Ron Paul done in Congress??)
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To: KevinDavis

Personally I think red dwarfs may be good places for life. A planet would need to be in a fairly tight orbit but red dwarfs are long lived stars.


10 posted on 09/28/2011 4:24:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: KevinDavis

Seems like quite a few Class M planets.


11 posted on 09/28/2011 4:26:25 PM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will have more quality executive experience than Barack Obama.)
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To: KevinDavis

But if it is 5,000 light years away, what difference does it make?


12 posted on 09/28/2011 4:27:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: KevinDavis

But if it is 5,000 light years away, what difference does it make?


13 posted on 09/28/2011 4:27:40 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All

Well there is the Stargate, Warp Speed, and Hyperspace technology..


14 posted on 09/28/2011 4:32:27 PM PDT by KevinDavis (What has Ron Paul done in Congress??)
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To: KevinDavis
Well there is the Stargate, Warp Speed, and Hyperspace technology..

And "Ludicrous Speed."

15 posted on 09/28/2011 4:34:13 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: KevinDavis

aaannnnd? NASA is shut down. And folks round here dont want it started back up. To quote some memorable slams from this forum.... “Its a Waste of money”..... “It produces nothing of value”.... “Space doesn’t need to be explored we need to fix earth first” and so on and so forth.... The problem is that he who holds the high ground or orbital position WINS!!!!
Now there are planets out there.... getting to them is a problem but people wont support what needs to happen because of shortsightedness or just plain old ignorance. I don’t like NASA... I never have but its what we got and private industry isn’t making a whole lot of progress nor is there a whole lot of incentive.


16 posted on 09/28/2011 4:35:39 PM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Someone thinks they might have broken the speed of light barrier the other day. If they did, Einstein might have been wrong. That puts other planets we can pillage somewhat closer.

On top of which, we could send the dims to a planet of their very own, and they can run it according to the latest Liberal theory. We can go back in fifty years and find out who won the pool for when they started cannibalism...

17 posted on 09/28/2011 4:36:43 PM PDT by jonascord (Politicians should be pelted with human manure, weekly, to remind them of their worth to society.)
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To: jimfree

“Seems like quite a few Class M planets.”

Humans have spent millions of years living in this biosphere; where we share similarities with every fungus, bacteria and virus. Every 150 pound human is carrying 5 pounds of bacteria, fungus and viruses. Actually, that 150 pound human has more non-human cells than human cells because that 5 pounds of cells are so much smaller than human cells. Our highly evolved immune systems keep the alien growths in check and balanced.

Now, imagine we go to another world that has evolved totally different analogs of bacteria, fungus and viruses. Those aliens will be right at home in our wet, nutrient filled bodies. Our immune systems won’t recognize them and we’d shortly be sprouting growths like forest fungi inside our eyelids. We wouldn’t make it a month on this new world.

Mankind will NEVER walk freely and unprotected on a life containing alien world. Science fiction whips up wonderful worlds and aliens. But if we ever meet them for real, no matter how “nice” they are; their bacteria will kill us; and vice versa.


18 posted on 09/28/2011 4:36:43 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather; All

YAWN!!!!!! The human race can adapt to any environment..


19 posted on 09/28/2011 4:41:18 PM PDT by KevinDavis (What has Ron Paul done in Congress??)
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To: Gen.Blather
Humans have spent millions of years living in this biosphere; where we share similarities with every fungus, bacteria and virus. Every 150 pound human is carrying 5 pounds of bacteria, fungus and viruses. Actually, that 150 pound human has more non-human cells than human cells because that 5 pounds of cells are so much smaller than human cells. Our highly evolved immune systems keep the alien growths in check and balanced.

Now, imagine we go to another world that has evolved totally different analogs of bacteria, fungus and viruses. Those aliens will be right at home in our wet, nutrient filled bodies. Our immune systems won’t recognize them and we’d shortly be sprouting growths like forest fungi inside our eyelids. We wouldn’t make it a month on this new world.

Mankind will NEVER walk freely and unprotected on a life containing alien world. Science fiction whips up wonderful worlds and aliens. But if we ever meet them for real, no matter how “nice” they are; their bacteria will kill us; and vice versa.

You're making major assumptions. First of all, you might ponder what "terraformer alert" refers to in the title of this post.

Secondly, you should consider that some fluke of our biology might be poisonous to every organism on said planet. Problem solved in that case.

Third, the biology there might not be based on DNA or any significant portion of our makeup (silicon based life?). Then we'd be of no particular interest.

A exoplanet "Garden of Eden" would most likely be massively terraformed and then an ecology of Earth organisms would be introduced, I'll grant you that much.

20 posted on 09/28/2011 4:44:29 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Palin '12 - Take Back America!!!)
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To: KevinDavis
The Luddites frown upon your dangerous unearthly thoughts and demand that you cease and desist this foolishness.

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21 posted on 09/28/2011 4:47:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: KevinDavis
"YAWN!!!!!! The human race can adapt to any environment.."

Yeah, just give it a few hundred, or thousands of years years.

22 posted on 09/28/2011 4:49:10 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KevinDavis
The human race can adapt to any environment..

Yeah. The folks at Auschwitz did just fine.

ML/NJ

23 posted on 09/28/2011 4:53:47 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: KoRn

Well if we ever get over this socialist hump and get back to real science, we will probably see some major advances in genetic alterations over the next couple of hundred years. (obviously there are moral issues but that is a long way off anyway)

Obviously we won’t ever alter a man enough to live on venus but we might see men more able to withstand higher radiation exposure or lower oxygen intake. Travel outside our solar system is pretty far away at this point anyway and it certainly doesn’t hurt to ponder it.

The fact is that humans are among the most adaptable of creatures. In a couple of generations we’ve produced bigger and stronger asians through diet alone.


24 posted on 09/28/2011 5:05:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth
NASA is not shut down. They're doing some fantastic science right now, and it's paying off. GRAIL? New Dawn? Kepler? LRO?

There will be manned flights by private companies starting around 2014. Dragon, the SpaceX ship, is being produced on assembly lines now. Boeing is hiring crew to pilot its CTS-100. Lockheed's Orion is undergoing testing.

Russia has had problems getting rockets into orbit recently. China's Shenzhou program has teething pains.

25 posted on 09/28/2011 5:21:40 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: jonascord
Someone thinks they might have broken the speed of light barrier the other day.

Must have been a Rat politician running for a microphone.

26 posted on 09/28/2011 5:25:54 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: GAB-1955
NASA is not shut down. They're doing some fantastic science right now, and it's paying off. GRAIL? New Dawn? Kepler? LRO?

Agreed. Their best stuff is unmanned.

The government sponsored manned spaceflight era is over, or should be; unless there's a military use.

27 posted on 09/28/2011 5:38:25 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: cripplecreek; All
Hell the fact there are some places on Earth that is pretty nasty and we can still survive..

I agree about modifying the human race to adapt to the planet we find. The moral issue will be great but I for see humans living on a planet with thin air (three lungs), or humans that can breathe underwater on a planet that is 90% water with very little land..
28 posted on 09/28/2011 5:39:47 PM PDT by KevinDavis (What has Ron Paul done in Congress??)
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To: KevinDavis
I for see humans living on a planet with thin air

Look at the barrel chested indians of the high Andes.
29 posted on 09/28/2011 5:47:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: SatinDoll

Until those lazy, layabouts in the physics labs get off their duffs and build us an FTL starship, it won’t matter much.


30 posted on 09/28/2011 5:51:59 PM PDT by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: KevinDavis

I am around 90% close to figuring out how to directionaly fold space to allow us to literally step off of our own planet and step on to a new one, Class M I Hope. lol
I’m getting close.
When i am at 100% i shall announce my findings right here on FR.
Freepers will have first access to what ever planet they choose, Not only that, Get this, The planet of their choice can be in whatever GALAXY they choose!

The Details of this incredible discovery will be presented forthright.

Get ready........


31 posted on 09/28/2011 5:54:53 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: KevinDavis

Don’t forget

The Infinite Improbability Drive is a faster-than-light drive. It is based on a particular perception of quantum theory: a subatomic particle is most likely to be in a particular place, such as near the nucleus of an atom, but there is also a small probability of it being found very far from its point of origin (for example close to a distant star). Thus, a body could travel from place to place without passing through the intervening space (or hyperspace, for that matter), if you had sufficient control of probability.[1] According to the Guide, in this way the drive “passes through every conceivable point in every conceivable universe almost simultaneously,” meaning the traveller is “never sure where they’ll end up or even what species they’ll be when they get there,” therefore it’s important to dress accordingly.

The Guide’s entry on the drive states it was invented “following research into finite improbability, which was often used to break the ice at parties by making all the molecules in the hostess’ undergarments leap one foot simultaneously to the left, in accordance with the theory of indeterminacy”. It further explains that many respectful physicists wouldn’t go to stand for that scenario, “partly because it was a debasement of science, but mostly because they didn’t get invited to those sort of parties.”


32 posted on 09/28/2011 5:59:14 PM PDT by Hotmetal (Courage is being scared to death..............and saddling up anyway.)
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To: SatinDoll

Yea, i’m wondering that if i intentionaly crash landed on one of these planets would i be instantly offered section 8 housing, Medicaid, EBT cards, Welfare CASH, in some cases a free car with free insurance, free gas ,and free repairs?
Free cell phone, free internet, free cable tv, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,etc?


33 posted on 09/28/2011 6:08:09 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: KevinDavis
Habitable, perhaps, but none at least 100 years into radio or TV broadcasting.

Stargate is real... they are all Renaissance Fair worlds.

34 posted on 09/28/2011 6:18:27 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: hattend; All

Also they look like Western Canada..


35 posted on 09/28/2011 6:26:39 PM PDT by KevinDavis (What has Ron Paul done in Congress??)
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To: KevinDavis

You know...You’re right!


36 posted on 09/28/2011 6:35:02 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: KevinDavis

I like to think outside the norm on this stuff. Its how I deal with insomnia.

Imagine a planet tidally locked in a close orbit to a red dwarf which in turn orbits a much larger main sequence star. One side of the planet would always face the red dwarf while the side away from the star would have a long day/night cycle as the planet orbited the dwarf.

I recently threw a twist into it by making the orbit around the large star, long and elliptical which would force a migration toward the red dwarf side of the planet every 5 or 10 years.


37 posted on 09/28/2011 6:54:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek

That’s purty. Can we send the Perrybots into that swirly thing ?


38 posted on 09/28/2011 6:55:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: KevinDavis
I'm curious. Assume:

1. The detection and confirmation by the IAU of a planet with a surface environment congenial to terrestrial life, including humans;

2. This planet is uninhabited by reasoning creatures;

3. Some means of getting to the planet within a reasonable period (e.g., wormhole or starship);

4. A call for volunteer colonists, unrestricted by age, ethnicity, etc.;

5. The catch: a 51% chance of dying en route or on the new world within the first year.

How many of you would go? And would you take your family with you if families were accepted by the colonization program?

For an example of the scenario to which I here refer, please see this book.

39 posted on 09/28/2011 7:34:14 PM PDT by Shalmaneser
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To: Gen.Blather; jimfree; KevinDavis

>>> Now, imagine we go to another world that has evolved totally different analogs of bacteria, fungus and viruses. Those aliens will be right at home in our wet, nutrient filled bodies. Our immune systems won’t recognize them and we’d shortly be sprouting growths like forest fungi inside our eyelids. We wouldn’t make it a month on this new world.

I agree that is probable, but it’s not definite. You can just as easily hypothesize the organic contaminants will be too alien to affect terrestrial body chemistry. That there would be no compatibility with any biology brewed up hundreds of light years away.

>>> Habitable planets orbit 1/3 of Sun-like stars

Very misleading and sensationalized headline. I don’t think they’ve found even one habitable world. They merely have found rocky planets larger then Earth in the relatively temperate zone where water “might” exist. It also doesn’t take account of the difference of conditions between the galaxy core where most of the stars are, and the spiral arms where we are.


40 posted on 09/29/2011 3:00:49 AM PDT by tlb
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To: KevinDavis

we have on beauty of a terraformable planet right here in the good ole solar system....

Mars is ripe for it....

and future humans might be able to de-gas venus so that the atmosphere wouldnt crush and/or cook us...


41 posted on 09/29/2011 4:44:39 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Shalmaneser

At my age (57) if I wasn’t married and I didn’t have to forrage hard to survive (We brought along enough food to last through all the seasons), I would probably go.

Why not?


42 posted on 09/29/2011 2:09:15 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: Shalmaneser

Oops, missed that 50/50 chance of survival.

I’d have to think about it but would probably arm up and go for it.


43 posted on 09/29/2011 2:10:36 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: Gen.Blather

[ Humans have spent millions of years living in this biosphere; where we share similarities with every fungus, bacteria and virus. Every 150 pound human is carrying 5 pounds of bacteria, fungus and viruses. Actually, that 150 pound human has more non-human cells than human cells because that 5 pounds of cells are so much smaller than human cells. Our highly evolved immune systems keep the alien growths in check and balanced.

Now, imagine we go to another world that has evolved totally different analogs of bacteria, fungus and viruses. Those aliens will be right at home in our wet, nutrient filled bodies. Our immune systems won’t recognize them and we’d shortly be sprouting growths like forest fungi inside our eyelids. We wouldn’t make it a month on this new world. ]

This is why aliens probe humans up the poop chute, not because they are kinky, but to collect the bacteria that live in our guts to study them so they can adapt themselves to our bacterial flora and fauna.


44 posted on 09/30/2011 10:11:52 AM PDT by GraceG
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