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If Gloria Allred appears today with accuser, will Cain be afforded the presumption of innocence?
11/7/2011 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 11/07/2011 8:50:19 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Gloria Allred is supposed to appear today with the third Cain accuser, and at Google News, (among a few more news stories), it reads: CBS News: "Gloria Allred To Offer Up New Cain Accuser." The Daily Caller: "Gloria Allred To Represent New Cain Accuser."

Question in its totality, since space in thread title does not permit: ...will Cain be afforded the presumption of innocence by the MSM?

Secondly, (rhetorical question): is the onus of proof upon him to disprove or upon others to prove?

No matter how badly the MSM says that he has supposedly handled this, the onus of proof is not upon him. And he is to be afforded the presumption of innocence, right?

From what I have seen, nothing has been proven, yet this isn't going away and yet it can't be avoided.


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KEYWORDS: allred; cain; chat; elections; gloriaallred; hermancain; mediabias; msm; politico; thepolitico
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To: Verginius Rufus

Don’t think that Gloria and her illegal Neekee were all that finished off Meg Whitman. Meg had lied on the campaign trail, and was wholly unlikable. Conservatives had to really hold our noses to cast a vote for her.


41 posted on 11/07/2011 9:21:50 AM PST by Yaelle (Donate to Cain's Iowa Fund! https://supporthermancain.com/iowafund/src/1103. Needs 300k in 3 days!)
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To: ScottinVA

Thus the election of Barack Obama, Mr. Hope-n-Change with a big stash of OPM.


42 posted on 11/07/2011 9:24:44 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I wish some large law firm would offer to Cain to take on these money/fame hungry sluts...pro bono. Bet that would dam things up!


43 posted on 11/07/2011 9:25:11 AM PST by Hotdog
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To: BuckeyeTexan

But, but... press reports about Clarence Thomas were leaked to the media after Thomas was nominated, before the hearings, and before he was confirmed by the Senate.


44 posted on 11/07/2011 9:25:33 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: TheCornerOffice

Spot on. It’s all about building a narrative to further a political agenda, not reporting the truth.


45 posted on 11/07/2011 9:25:33 AM PST by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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To: TheCornerOffice

Rofl! Post of the day!!

I said yesterday here that they will keep hitting Cain with sexcapades, and when they run out, they will drum up financial improprieties, and when they finally get to “he can’t serve because he had cancer,” they’ll be at the end of their attacks.


46 posted on 11/07/2011 9:25:53 AM PST by Yaelle (Donate to Cain's Iowa Fund! https://supporthermancain.com/iowafund/src/1103. Needs 300k in 3 days!)
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To: ScottinVA
"the American electorate as a whole is not a particularly bright bunch."

That isn't no lie. Most of them couldn't tell you who the Vice President is, nor could they find the U.S. on a map.

Why do you think after Obama has damn near wrecked this nation that he still has a 40%+ approval. If we were a "bright bunch" is would be <5%.

47 posted on 11/07/2011 9:27:02 AM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"There is probably no limit to the number of bimbos willing to make up stories to get in the spotlight for a moment."


48 posted on 11/07/2011 9:27:11 AM PST by Dem Guard (Obama's 57 States = The Organization of The Islamic Conference (OIC).)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

... proving that there is no obligation by the MSM to presume anyone’s innocence. They need only use the word “alleged” to avoid defamation.


49 posted on 11/07/2011 9:29:31 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

>>> Presumption of innocence also applies in the courtroom of public opinion, too

Presumption of innocence is a legal term.

You cannot apply it to human nature.

What the left is doing goes far beyond determining guilt or innocence. The affects of these high-tech lynchings go beyond vetting the candidate for office. The media has effectively derailed Cain’s message by associating his name with sexual harassment, regardless of the truth.

We have no laws to prevent the media from doing this.

There is no way to defend against such claims in the public’s eye.

Cain’s only defense is to go on offense.
The enemy’s tactic WILL WORK given time.
It’s allready working at levels that are undetectable by current polls and contributions.

The only plus side to this is that it is bringing him name recognition that he would not otherwise be getting.

If you repeat a lie often enough, it eventually will become the truth in the public court of opinion.

Just heard a brief news report where Gloria Allred was referred to as a “High Profile Attorney”.... while dogging Cain as unable to shake the “controversy”... lol.

The “controversy” has been unable to to shake Cain is more like it. Unfortunately, the lies keep coming like a swarm of fire ants attacking an armadillo. Eventually, the armadillo loses.


51 posted on 11/07/2011 9:30:08 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

P.S.

Gloria Allred is a mongo tree lawyer as is Greg Craig.


52 posted on 11/07/2011 9:30:29 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) (")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Anyone who bases their opinion on Alreds statements has the brains of a retarded clam.


53 posted on 11/07/2011 9:31:11 AM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: 9YearLurker
Cain knew there were plenty more out there. That’s why he’s been projecting from the beginning that more women will “lie” and come forward.

What a troll. Instead of denouncing a liberal hatchet job, you join right in. And in blithe, deliberate ignorance of the politics of personal destruction as practiced by the left.

54 posted on 11/07/2011 9:34:24 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Probably as much as any other person in the public eye...just depends on who likes the person and what side they are on.


55 posted on 11/07/2011 9:35:34 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Vigilanteman

Like Obamas’ birther certificate?


56 posted on 11/07/2011 9:36:51 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Verginius Rufus
"It worked in the last gubernatorial election in California—Gloria destroyed Jerry Brown’s opponent using a similar tactic."

It certainly did. Despite her clear connections to Jerry Brown, which should have caused any accusations from Allred to be taken with the highest level of skepticism.

57 posted on 11/07/2011 9:38:59 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Herman Cain I think I can remember him $$$$$$$.


58 posted on 11/07/2011 9:40:14 AM PST by Dem Guard (Obama's 57 States = The Organization of The Islamic Conference (OIC).)
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To: 9YearLurker

Wow, that sounded like something right out of DU.


59 posted on 11/07/2011 9:42:28 AM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: 9YearLurker
Cain knew there were plenty more out there. That’s why he’s been projecting from the beginning that more women will “lie” and come forward.

What a troll. Instead of denouncing a liberal hatchet job, you join right in. And in blithe, deliberate ignorance of the politics of personal destruction as practiced by the left.

60 posted on 11/07/2011 9:45:00 AM PST by dirtboy
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