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Carrie Fisher slams William Shatner's claims Star Trek is better than Star Wars
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 17 Nov 2011 | Mike Larkin

Posted on 11/18/2011 9:55:32 PM PST by smokingfrog

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81 posted on 11/18/2011 10:54:30 PM PST by delacoert
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Yeah, Star Wars has Jar Jar Binks — top that Star Trek! < /s

The closest the Star Trek franchise has is... Harry Mudd? (Equally annoying, to be sure, but an annoying alien tops an annoying human, as annoying humans are so common.)

the infowarrior

82 posted on 11/18/2011 10:55:06 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: buccaneer81
Yes, but they couldn't get Phase II off the ground because they couldn't get the proposed Paramount station off the ground. Then Star Wars came along, and that was the impetus to make the movie.

"Work on the series came to an end when the proposed Paramount Television Service folded. However, following the success of the science fiction movies Star Wars and Close Encounters of the Third Kind, the planned pilot episode entitled "In Thy Image"[3] was adapted into a theatrical production, Star Trek: The Motion Picture."--wikipedia

83 posted on 11/18/2011 10:55:19 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Darkwolf377
The music (which was made by creating circuits and recording what happened when electricity was sent through them—what you hear is the sound of the circuits “dying” as they burn out)

Hard to believe so much of it was used in the first season of Lost In Space, and that John Williams scored the show for all three years.

84 posted on 11/18/2011 10:55:23 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Fiji Hill
Star Wars II (1980) was a disappointment,

Usually regarded as the very best of all the Star Wars movies.

85 posted on 11/18/2011 10:57:04 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: goldstategop

Definitely. The first season was a bit too formulaic for me, but by season 3, the show really hit its stride.


86 posted on 11/18/2011 10:57:04 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: RobbyS

And yet, no one has yet mentioned “BABYLON 5”.

Couldn’t be beat for story and continuity, with some great actors, several of whom have now passed on.


87 posted on 11/18/2011 10:57:27 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: infowarrior

“but an annoying alien tops an annoying human, as annoying humans are so common ....”

LOL. You calling me common?


88 posted on 11/18/2011 10:57:36 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: buccaneer81

Actually that’s not Forbidden Planet music, that’s The Day the Earth Stood Still music by Bernard Herrmann. Also, back then they usually scored several episodes and then just reused the cues over and over, so Williams wasn’t composing new music every week (the way, for example, Mark Snow did for every week of The X-Files).


89 posted on 11/18/2011 10:59:30 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: tcrlaf

I agree.


90 posted on 11/18/2011 11:01:35 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: Darkwolf377
They would have been waaay behind though if they hadn't had much of the pre-production work for Phase II already waiting to use for the movie. Probably saved them a year.

If you want to see a rush job on a "cashing-in" attempt at sci-fi, look no further than "Moonraker."

91 posted on 11/18/2011 11:01:44 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Also, Alexander Courage, Leigh Harline, Cyril Mockridge, Gerald Fried, Herman Stein,Fred Steiner, and Leith Stevens all scored Lost in Space eps, too (or their library music was used, not sure which).


92 posted on 11/18/2011 11:01:57 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Yeah, Star Wars has Jar Jar Binks — top that Star Trek! < /s


93 posted on 11/18/2011 11:02:43 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Darkwolf377
Actually that’s not Forbidden Planet music, that’s The Day the Earth Stood Still music by Bernard Herrmann

You're right. I mixed them up.

94 posted on 11/18/2011 11:02:56 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: BillyBoy; RingerSIX; fieldmarshaldj
Landau be all up in dat...
95 posted on 11/18/2011 11:03:18 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Darkwolf377

True... a very original plot.. carried out beautifully..
with an excellent cast.. you have acting talent..

But producing talent is also needed.. rare these days..
Never hear of talent to be a producer...

So many strong SF plots are not made..


96 posted on 11/18/2011 11:04:23 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Darkwolf377

Williams usually got the sole screen credit, perhaps because of the two themes (talk about night and day.)


97 posted on 11/18/2011 11:05:26 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Darkwolf377

Love seeing the original “The Day the Earth Stood Still,” because of its understatement.Two excellent actors in the lead roles, and very dependable character actors in the minor roles. Plus it gave a glimpse of a Dcv that has long since disappeared. Only odd thing is that so few blacks are seen in what was after all still a Southern city. BA/C.


98 posted on 11/18/2011 11:06:20 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
LOL. You calling me common?

If so, I must certainly include myself, since the last time I looked in a mirror, I was definitely human, and have it on good authority in certain quarters that I'm truly annoying ;P

the infowarrior

99 posted on 11/18/2011 11:07:12 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: buccaneer81

They didn’t use any of the work for the TV show in the movie—look at the photos you posted, those were old costumes, and if you see the pre-production art the sets were completely different from what they used (I think they used the engineering design). Ralph McQuarrie even designed a new Enterprise, but when they went to the movie they went with, I think, Andy Probert as a designer (I know he worked on it, not sure if he was the only designer). When Robert Wise came aboard they basically started from scratch. The script they adapted was being rewritten up until the last days of shooting. Plus they lost tons of time when Robert Abel couldn’t deliver the FX and they had to hire Dykstra and Trumbull (who used Paramount’s time problem to get out of a contract he had with them).

The TV series was dead. When Star Wars was first a hit, they even thought they were lucky to have dropped the idea, since now the SF was over. But when Star Wars was still selling tickets even after Close Encounters came and went in the theaters, they decided it was time.

Some of the rejected scripts—well, the one they used was awful, but I’m not sure how good the others might have been. A couple of the TV scripts were used on Next Generation episodes.


100 posted on 11/18/2011 11:07:56 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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