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Asked "How many people have we burned at the stake in this country...?"
The O'Reilly Factor ^ | December 7, 2011 | vanity

Posted on 12/07/2011 8:57:32 PM PST by eccentric

I would like to know the answer to that question. Keep in mind, that most witchhunts occured BEFORE 1776, and the victims were hung not burned.

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Does anyone have an accueate count?
1 posted on 12/07/2011 8:57:37 PM PST by eccentric
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To: eccentric

Not enough, judging by the cast of The View.


2 posted on 12/07/2011 8:59:31 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (I also think that Obama should be defeated.)
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To: eccentric

LOL Funny you mention this stupid remark. I was just watching that (repeat). Typical hippie.

I’m sure somewhere in this (actual) country of many, many people, someone may’ve been burned - at the stake - at the hands of someone else over apostasy or some such. But it’s irrelevent.

It’s never happened as a movement in this country that I’m aware of. The Salem stuff was as a colony, long before there was a new country.


3 posted on 12/07/2011 9:02:57 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: eccentric

0?


4 posted on 12/07/2011 9:03:18 PM PST by dangus
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To: eccentric

From wiki so take it with a grain of salt but it looks to be about 40 total...

In Massachusetts, there are two cases of burning at the stake. First, in 1681, a slave named Maria tried to kill her owner by setting his house on fire. She was convicted of arson and burned at the stake at Roxbury, Massachusetts.[10] Concurrently, a slave named Jack, convicted in a separate arson case, was hanged at a nearby gallows, and after death his body was thrown into the fire with that of Maria. Second, in 1755, a group of slaves had conspired and killed their owner, with servants Mark and Phillis executed for his murder. Mark was hanged and his body gibbeted, and Phillis burned at the stake, at Cambridge, Massachusetts.[11]

In New York several burnings at the stake are recorded, particularly following suspected slave revolt plots. In 1708 one woman was burnt and one man hanged. In the aftermath of the New York Slave Revolt of 1712 20 people were burnt, and during the alleged slave conspiracy of 1741 no less than 13 slaves were burnt at the stake.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_burning#Historical_usage


5 posted on 12/07/2011 9:05:33 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: eccentric

Check “What’s So Great About Christianity” - it was very few, just cannot remember exactly.


6 posted on 12/07/2011 9:06:33 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Apostasy from which groups here in the US? I don’t recall any that burned apostates at the stake, slit their throat? Yes, but not burned at the stake.


7 posted on 12/07/2011 9:07:17 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: eccentric

11.


8 posted on 12/07/2011 9:07:30 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: reaganaut

what was cut from the actual quote was “based on religious ideals”. Adjust these numbers to JUST religious reasons and only after 1776 and the answer is?


9 posted on 12/07/2011 9:09:53 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: eccentric

Ummm, I’m not aware of a single “witch hunt” since Salem, Mass, in the 1690s. The Puritan leadership of the colony was so embarrassed about what happened there, I’m fairly sure we didn’t have any more actual executions for witchcraft after that...not totally sure though, may have been a couple more isolated cases, but certainly not after 1776 and the new USA.

Fairly certain there were NO official executions ever by “burning at the stake” in America, as that’s an old religious form of execution (for heresy...) and too many early Protestants died that way back in the old country....and the Protestants here didn’t want to repeat that here. The Puritans did hang Quakers in Boston...but again, you have to go back into the 1600s to find that.


10 posted on 12/07/2011 9:11:31 PM PST by AnalogReigns (because REALITY is never digital...)
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To: eccentric

In that case the answer is ZERO.


11 posted on 12/07/2011 9:18:13 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: eccentric
Question is far too vague to answer.

By who?

Europeans only or all ethnicity?

By the state after a trial or by angry mobs?

Are we talking for religious or civic crimes?

Do prisoners of war being burned as revenge count?

Are we talking the entire area of what is now the USA or are we talking about only territory that was the US at that time?

Should I include the areas which are now territories?

Pre or Post Revolution?

Pre or Post Constitution?

Should the CSA be included or excluded from 1860-1865?

For example if the Navajo burned a skinwalker in 1813 in the area which is now the southwest US should I include or exclude them?

If you are referring to English Colonists in the thirteen states area and the crime being witchcraft after a court trial I believe the answer is zero.

12 posted on 12/07/2011 9:19:44 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: eccentric

13


13 posted on 12/07/2011 9:21:42 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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About burning at the stake... whoops....count me wrong. A few were executed in America that way...

It doesn’t appear though, these executions were religiously motivated however—which in Europe, was virtually always what burning at the stake was (supposed to be) about.

In Europe, heresy was punished (by the secular rulers) after the Church authorities had a trial (an inquisition) examining a person for heresy. If convicted, then the victim would be turned over to the state authorities for execution (so the Church wouldn’t technically kill anyone...).

In the 1550s,something like 400 Protestant leaders died this way under “Bloody” Queen Mary of England—a fanatical Roman Catholic. When moderate Queen Elizabeth I (whom they named Virginia after) took over there was great rejoicing in England by the Protestants.

Part of the reason for using fire for heresy was to warn others of the terrors of hell (awaiting heretics), to “purge” the community by fire...and, interestingly, so the Church could not be accused of “shedding blood.”


14 posted on 12/07/2011 9:23:53 PM PST by AnalogReigns (because REALITY is never digital...)
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To: AnalogReigns

Which is why it is zero. The number is about 40, but if you add in ‘for religious reasons’ and after 1776 in the US, it comes to zero.

I am VERY VERY familiar with the practice in Europe (both for political and religious reasons) since I am a Medieval historian specializing in death and religion and have interests in heretical movements and the inquisition.


15 posted on 12/07/2011 9:27:42 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: AnalogReigns

Thanks for the information. I think it’s also important to note that Christ said or did nothing whatsoever that would justify the killing of heretics. Wasn’t the Protestant movement largely created because the Roman Catholic church of that time was clearly NOT Christian?


16 posted on 12/07/2011 9:34:06 PM PST by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Aspire to be good!)
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To: AnalogReigns

Clarification, the number is about 40 here in the US total. The numbers in Europe, especially stretching back into the Middle Ages goes much higher.


17 posted on 12/07/2011 9:34:45 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

Wait just a minute, if you count Native Americans, the number is far higher.

Probably no documentation, but the tribal root doctor often blamed disease, famine etc. on an absent aged chief. Then he would be set upon and killed. No doubt they burned a few. Practice was highly discouraged by U.S. in the 1870s.


18 posted on 12/07/2011 9:35:10 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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reaganaut: “I am VERY VERY familiar with the practice in Europe (both for political and religious reasons) since I am a Medieval historian specializing in death and religion and have interests in heretical movements and the inquisition.”

Please note my reply to AnalogReigns. Based on your studies, don't you agree the real heretics of that age were the ones practicing the Inquisition?

19 posted on 12/07/2011 9:37:14 PM PST by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Aspire to be good!)
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To: eccentric
... and the victims were hung not burned.

Umm, been watching porn snuff films lately?

20 posted on 12/07/2011 9:37:59 PM PST by TotusTuus ("Hanged", the proper term is "hanged".)
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