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Newt’s war on the courts
Hot Air ^ | December 18, 2011 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 12/20/2011 9:40:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Given Newt Gingrich’s rather curious comments on the judicial branch of the federal government during last week’s GOP debate in Iowa, and the fact that he has doubled – if not tripled – down on them since then, two serious questions remain. While they draw raucous applause from conservative debate crowds, are these even remotely viable proposals and, perhaps more to the point, is he even serious?

As to the first matter, there’s more than ample evidence that these latest products rolling off the production line at the idea factory that is Newt Gingrich may have skipped over the Quality Control station checkpoint. Should federal judges not serve for life? Should they be subpoenaed to explain their less than satisfactory decisions to Congress? Can the president simply ignore their decisions if he/she finds them unacceptable? To get the full history of these suggestions – which are actually far from new – attorney Doug Mataconis provides an extensive tutorial. As usual, it’s fairly long with a lot of material to go over, but you’ll find the history of court cases and historical vignettes which provide the backdrop to where we stand today. But for a shorter summary, Gerald Shargel dots the i’s and crosses the t’s.

What Gingrich ignored last night, and what was only noted briefly by Ron Paul, is that under Article III of the Constitution, federal judges are appointed for life. Only personal misconduct can result in impeachment and removal. A judge may not be removed because of decisions with which Republicans disagree. Gingrich should be smart enough to know that subpoenaing judges is neither legal nor workable. But this historian also knows that the Army-McCarthy hearings made for good television.

Doug himself concludes with some of the weightier consequences.

In his position paper, Gingrich engages in a wholesale attack on the structure of American government as established in the Constitution, and as it has existed for the past two centuries, proposing to replace it with a system where majorities are given even more control over the levers of state while minorities are increasingly denied access to the one branch of government most likely to protect them from a rapacious and oppressive majority. It is an attack on the Constitution, on the Rule Of Law, and on individual liberty. The fact that it received so many cheers last night is very disturbing.

There’s more to it than that, though. One of the classic episodes from American history where this question arose early on was the 1832 SCOTUS decision in Worcester v. Georgia, where the high court held that individual states didn’t have the right to seize Native American lands. Andrew Jackson, already engaged in a process of effectively purging the indigenous tribes from Georgia and Florida was incensed beyond consolation. Jackson is recorded as responding by saying, “Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it.”

It’s easy to write this off as a dusty trivia question from the early 19th century without pausing to consider just how terrifying that moment truly was. It wound up passing, but that period of executive revolt raised a question which has come up many times in our nation’s history during times of constitutional crisis. The Executive branch controls not only the military, but the civilian department responsible for law enforcement. What becomes of the courts if they can find no agent to enforce their decrees? Are they to pack up their black robes in hobo bindles and flee to Canada? At that point you may as well take down the tents, dim the lights and pack it in because the Great American Experiment has ended.

But none of this may wind up mattering very much in the case of Newt Gingrich, which brings us to the second question posed above. Is he really serious about this? To answer that one, I find myself reminded not of some historical figure from the early days of the nation, but the modern day master of bombast, Rush Limbaugh.

Some years ago, Ed Morrissey was discussing Rush with me and he provided a fairly lucid explanation for the man’s behavior. The vast majority of the time, he told me, Rush is pretty much just this guy who covers and comments on current events, politics and government news from a very conservative perspective. Sure, there’s the occasional story which enrages him and gets him shouting, but it’s nothing really out of line. But every once in a while he lets slip with something that gets the liberal blogosphere and the MSM setting their hair on fire. Depending on the comment, his critics will accuse him of being a racist, a sexist, a homophobe, or whatever the flavor of the week may be. But Rush always manages to somehow tiptoe the line so that it’s more of a dog whistle than an actual bark.

So does this mean that, deep down, Limbaugh is a racist or whatever? The answer is probably no, because what Rush is – first and foremost – is a showman and a businessman who knows that controversy is good, attracts more listeners and gets people talking about him. The same can be said for politicians trying to attract the high “ratings” of the voting public. As Shargel notes above, the Army-McCarthy hearings made for good television.

Still, as we find in a more recent update, Newt was back out on the trail today doing the Sunday morning shows and pitching the same ideas. And he manages to do it with a straight face.

Newt is hardly a stupid man, and he’s probably forgotten more American History than most of us will ever learn. He doubtless has not lost track of Article III. The more likely explanation is that this is something which was a designed play to create precisely this type of outraged conversation and earned media which keeps his name in the headlines without spending a dime of campaign money. And it doesn’t hurt that his most conservative primary voters and Tea Party enthusiasts, long frustrated with various decisions by the Supreme Court, eat it up with a spoon.

If Newt wins the nomination – and eventually the presidency – I expect this particular issue will be one that fades away down the memory hole as he becomes more busy with real world affairs. So maybe it was a crazy idea… crazy like a fox.

UPDATE: Karl adds his own thoughts on this subject in the Green Room.


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1 posted on 12/20/2011 9:40:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Twice, this guy mentions McCarthy.

Is that the new meme?


2 posted on 12/20/2011 9:46:11 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Old Sarge

Of course. Alinksy in action...


3 posted on 12/20/2011 9:50:07 PM PST by TheWriterTX (All in now for Newt Gingrich)
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To: NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; Marine_Uncle; GeronL; SunkenCiv; blam; ...

Gets me excited....


4 posted on 12/20/2011 9:52:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rush Limbaugh; TitansAFC

LOL. This guy wants Rush’s attention before he leaves for Christmas vacation.....!

GO GINGRICH.


5 posted on 12/20/2011 9:54:36 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If I remember my schooling concerning the Constitution (Long long ago) Federal judges (even SC judges) can be impeached.
Also, the Supreme Court is NOT the final say on what the law says. There are three branches and if the President and Congress disagree with the Supreme Court, the court loses!!


6 posted on 12/20/2011 10:04:27 PM PST by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama (the squatter in the White House) is Not a Natural Born Citizen!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well...geee...some of the “Courts” have had a WAR on the Constitution and America. ‘bout time we fought back.


7 posted on 12/20/2011 10:05:20 PM PST by goodnesswins (Banning Christmas (and Christmas decorations) is something that commies do.)
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To: goodnesswins

Exactly!


8 posted on 12/20/2011 10:11:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Leave it to a lawyer to get the Constitution Wrong. The Judicial Branch has been in over reach for over a century. The Congress and The President can exert their authority over the Judicial Branch BECAUSE they are the direct representatives of the people and the collective states. They are the weakest branch of the three and where supposed to be the least influential to the public, BECAUSE they serve for life.

Due to the massive over reach a good Constitutional Schooling is due the Judiciary and that means a smack down from the Legislature and the Executive branches taking back their respective authority to make law and eliminate and remove judges who act contrary to the Constitution that they swear to uphold. They have every authority to remove and eliminate judges both individualy and collectively by changing the courts and or adding or eliminating entire districts. The Courts where set up by the Legislature and signed into law by the Execiutive. They are not suposed to be an oligarchy but they believe that they are.

9 posted on 12/20/2011 10:13:09 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Well, the executive and legislative branches nominate and approve everyone on the supreme court, so I don’t know how they suddenly become some rogue agent.


10 posted on 12/20/2011 10:15:52 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

While I may not agree 100% with ALL of Newt’s ideas, it is past time that someone took on our corrupted, perverted, nonfunctioning court system.

The left has used the courts for decades to pervert the law AND the will of the people.

There needs to be some accounting for the poor decisions that have come out of too many of our courts. Perhaps Newt is really on the right track, here.


11 posted on 12/20/2011 10:16:13 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; JesusBmyGod; buffyt; Whenifhow; rom; persistence48; Hanna548; DvdMom; ...
I am heavily offended by this tripe!

I have listened to rush every single day, for every hour is show has been broadcast. Ever since he was still broadcasting in Sacramento I have listened to him, minus a vacation now and then, or when I was too sick to stay awake to hear anything. So when I read this quote from the article,
..............what Rush is – first and foremost – is a showman and a businessman who knows that controversy is good, attracts more listeners and gets people talking about him.

I could only come up with one conclusion, neither Mr Shaw nor Ed Morrissey, have ever listened to Rush for more than a few episodes after the MSM has brought his name up. That being said I just lost a TON of respect for these two writers at HotAir. From hence forth I will never ever read another article written by them, because they are not conservatives, they are RINOS at best like George Will.

No true conservative would consider Rush just another showman who is looking to just get ratings, and awareness by being controversial. True conservatives will always get attention by just being truthful. Something Liberals and Rinos, like Mr Shaw and Morrisey would never understand, because they always put their fingers in the air to see which way the wind is blowing before commenting on a subject.
12 posted on 12/20/2011 10:19:43 PM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
subpoenaing judges is neither legal nor workable.

Says who. Congress subpoenas executive branch officials all the time. Why should the judiciary be any different?

13 posted on 12/20/2011 10:27:55 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: DustyMoment
Perhaps Newt is really on the right track, here.

Or perhaps Newt is really on the campaign trail. Who knows. Right now, I'm not in the mood to believe anything any of them are saying.

14 posted on 12/20/2011 10:29:01 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So does this mean that, deep down, Limbaugh is a racist or whatever? The answer is probably no . . . .

Deep down, is the author an idiot? The answer is probably yes.

15 posted on 12/20/2011 10:31:22 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: OneVike; All

Nite


16 posted on 12/20/2011 10:44:40 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: OneVike
So does this mean that, deep down, Limbaugh is a racist or whatever? The answer is probably no, because what Rush is – first and foremost – is a showman and a businessman who knows that controversy is good, attracts more listeners and gets people talking about him.

I agree with you that this line about Rush is absolutely BS. I do think the problem here is in the interpretation of Ed Morrissey's quite true remarks on Rush's well known "Media Tweaks of the Day" by this absolutely stupid idiot Jazz Shaw. He even says Rush is "Probably not a racist". Is this guy for real? I hope this dim bulb writer retracts and apologizes or better yet see Levin and Rush hammer this guy into oblivion on air for having no better understanding of Rush than your average Lamestream reporter. From reading this twice, I get the impression he is really a Leftist hack.

17 posted on 12/20/2011 10:51:28 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Newton has my vote if it comes down to him being the final candidate to run against the communist fraud.


18 posted on 12/20/2011 11:10:43 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: OneVike

You are very generous in your judgment of the author’s character. I could even get to the part about Rush Limbaugh before I was retching over the lib-bias and lies. I gave it the best benefit of the doubt that I could and came up with the firm conclusion that the author is a Marxist hack propagandist who at heart despises our Constitution.


19 posted on 12/20/2011 11:24:39 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: dr_lew
The Legislature allowed them to act out because for most of the last century it was in the best interest of the party in power (Democrats) for the Judiciary to push and approve leftist extra and unconstitutional agendas. They became used to being the super legislature.
20 posted on 12/20/2011 11:42:21 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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