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The Yeti, a severed finger spirited from Nepal, and a famous film star.
DailyMail ^ | 27th December 2011 | Matthew Hill

Posted on 12/27/2011 4:38:01 AM PST by Daffynition

The full edited title: The Yeti, a severed finger spirited from Nepal, and a famous film star. DNA tests will finally solve a truly bizarre mystery

Set high in a remote Himalayan mountain range stands the Pangboche Buddhist monastery.

During heavy snowstorms, it can be found only by travellers who listen for the monks’ ceremonial horns.

The walls are lined with traditional Nepalese paintings depicting the treacherous tracks to the monastery.

And among them are pictures of the legendary ape-like creature we refer to as the Yeti.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: cryptobiology; cryptozoology; dna; godsgravesglyphs; jimmystewart; yeti
The Yeti' finger, pictured that was displayed at London's Royal College of Surgeons


1 posted on 12/27/2011 4:38:05 AM PST by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Daffynition.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 12/27/2011 4:48:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: Daffynition
For the full result of the DNA analysis, listen to Yeti Finger on BBC Radio 4 today at 11am.

BBC Radio 4

3 posted on 12/27/2011 5:18:48 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because oit is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Daffynition
For the full result of the DNA analysis, listen to Yeti Finger on BBC Radio 4 today at 11am.

BBC Radio 4

4 posted on 12/27/2011 5:19:05 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because oit is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Daffynition

The Yeti’s Hand of Pangboche


5 posted on 12/27/2011 5:26:11 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: Daffynition

BTTT.


6 posted on 12/27/2011 5:26:11 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Pontiac
Thanks for the link.


7 posted on 12/27/2011 5:29:39 AM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: Daffynition

According to a commenter on Daily Mail, the radio show reported it was a human finger.


8 posted on 12/27/2011 5:33:33 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: JoeProBono
Add that to the preserved Yeti scalp. Testing showed it was from the hump of a cow. Tibetan monks have us goodwined.


9 posted on 12/27/2011 5:37:01 AM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: autumnraine

10 posted on 12/27/2011 5:39:10 AM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: Daffynition

“It doesn’t matter anyway, All is illusion.”


11 posted on 12/27/2011 5:41:23 AM PST by kenavi (1% of the 1% were born in the 1%.)
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To: Daffynition

12 posted on 12/27/2011 5:42:53 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: Daffynition

Now, there is a growing movement to have the finger returned to its rightful owners....He’s dead, Jim.


13 posted on 12/27/2011 5:46:17 AM PST by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: Daffynition

dammit! I clicked in hopes of a Michelle photo.
She is all the Yeti proof I need to believe.


14 posted on 12/27/2011 5:50:32 AM PST by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

15 posted on 12/27/2011 5:53:55 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: Daffynition
Naddafinga!!!!


16 posted on 12/27/2011 6:16:52 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Daffynition

17 posted on 12/27/2011 6:21:33 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: kenavi
Not Yeti


18 posted on 12/27/2011 6:32:26 AM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: ronniesgal; paulycy

19 posted on 12/27/2011 7:11:58 AM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: Daffynition

*groan*


20 posted on 12/27/2011 8:19:39 AM PST by null and void (Day 1070 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: King Moonracer; mikrofon; martin_fierro

"You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me."


21 posted on 12/27/2011 10:20:04 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Digital photograph.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The DNA analysis determined it is a human finger.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16316397


22 posted on 12/27/2011 10:29:11 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
Just came back from Wendy's. Yes, there was no finger.


23 posted on 12/27/2011 11:15:30 AM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: null and void
Mind your yetiquette.


24 posted on 12/27/2011 11:22:34 AM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: Daffynition

late in the day but thank you so much!!!!


25 posted on 12/27/2011 2:10:15 PM PST by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: ronniesgal
Yeti fashion. Timeless.


26 posted on 12/27/2011 3:58:05 PM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: paulycy
This one's for you kid!

Effectiveness of the RNC against the Hussein machine, _metaphorically of course. KA-POW.


27 posted on 12/27/2011 6:28:16 PM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: Rebelbase

Ah, the teeth marks on it are Yeti. ;’) Thanks Rebelbase.


28 posted on 12/27/2011 7:15:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: Daffynition

29 posted on 12/27/2011 7:20:15 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Pontiac; JoeProBono; autumnraine; Daffynition; Rebelbase

Naturally, there is more to the story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangboche_Hand

[snip] Oil businessman and adventurer Tom Slick first heard accounts of the possible existence of a “Yeti hand” held as a ritual artifact in the monastery at Pangboche during one of his first “Abominable Snowman” treks in 1957. The Slick expeditions were the first to bring photographs of the hand back to the West.

During later Tom Slick-sponsored expeditions in and around the Himalayas, his associates gathered more information on the “Pangboche hand,” and an effort to further examine it was planned. In 1959 Peter Byrne, a member of Slick’s expedition that year, reportedly stole pieces of the artifact after the monks who owned it refused to allow its removal for study.[1] Byrne claimed to have replaced the stolen bone fragments with human bones, rewrapping the hand to disguise his theft.[1]

Byrne smuggled the bones from Nepal into India, after which actor James Stewart allegedly smuggled the hand out of the country in his luggage.[1] Cryptozoologist Loren Coleman rediscovered this story while writing Tom Slick’s biography in the 1980s. Coleman confirmed details of the incidents with written materials in the Slick archives, interviews with Byrne, and correspondence with Stewart. Byrne later confirmed the Pangboche hand story via a letter from Stewart that Byrne published in a general book on Nepalese wildlife.... London University primatologist William Charles Osman Hill conducted a physical examination of the pieces that Byrne supplied. His first findings were that it was hominid, and later in 1960 he decided that the Pangboche fragments were a closer match with a Neanderthal.

In 1991, in conjunction with Coleman’s research, it was discovered that the Slick expedition consultant, an American anthropologist by the name of George Agogino, had retained samples of the alleged Yeti hand. The NBC program Unsolved Mysteries obtained samples and determined they were similar to human tissue, but were not human, and could only verify they were “near human.” After the broadcast of the program, the entire hand was stolen from the Pangboche monastery, and reportedly disappeared into a private collection via the illegal underground in the sale of antiquities. George Agogino, before his death on September 11, 2000, transferred his important files on the Pangboche Yeti hand to Loren Coleman. [/snip]


30 posted on 12/27/2011 7:22:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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31 posted on 12/28/2011 2:21:21 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: SunkenCiv; Daffynition; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; ...
Yeti Finger on BBC 4
32 posted on 12/28/2011 8:07:26 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: SunkenCiv

[Jimmy Stewart voice]"Now, you got to believe me Slick, I punched you in the nose because you said you wanted to give me the finger. How was I supposed to know it was as real finger...A Yeti finger at that!"[/Jimmy Stewart voice]
33 posted on 12/28/2011 3:18:43 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: SunkenCiv

The Jimmie Stewart connection is interesting:

Then, in 1957, Tom Slick, a wealthy American oilman, funded a series of expeditions to investigate Yetis.

He became obsessed after hearing about them on business trips to India.

It was a year later, during one of the expeditions funded by Slick, that the Irish-American explorer Peter Byrne heard two Sherpas mention the word ‘Meh-te’.

When quizzed, they told him about the ancient Yeti hand preserved in the Pangboche Monastery. Days of trekking through treacherous passes with the ever-constant threat of avalanches followed as Byrne made his way to the magnificent monastery.

He remembers walking the halls by candlelight and being led to the room which contained the Pangboche hand. ‘It was covered with crusted black, broken skin,’ Byrne says.

He sent a runner over the border to India with a message for Slick about his find. It took three days for the return telegram to arrive with instructions from Slick to obtain the hand and to bring it to London.

But the monks refused to let Byrne take their revered object, explaining that if they let it go, it would bring down a curse on the monastery. Slick was determined, however. He arranged to meet Byrne in London, where they were joined by world-renowned primatologist Professor William Osman Hill.

The venue was the restaurant at Regent’s Park Zoo, where the professor was employed dissecting and embalming dead animals.

During the meal, Osman Hill told Byrne that he had to get hold of at least one finger from the hand because he wanted it to be scientifically analysed.

The professor — who had links to the Royal College of Surgeons — then reached under the table and brought out a brown paper bag.

He tipped a human hand onto the table, and suggested Byrne replace the finger with a human one.

Slick could only exclaim: ‘I take it that’s not dessert?’

Byrne returned to the monastery, and although the monks were reluctant, they eventually agreed to part with the finger for £100 — only if Byrne could find a way of disguising the missing digit.

The mountaineer wired the human finger on to the relic, before painting it with iodine to make it look the same colour as the rest of the hand. He now faced a perilous journey home.

In the previous year, the Nepalese government — bizarrely — had brought in a law making it illegal for foreigners to kill a Yeti.

Thus, Byrne took a risk by trekking on foot over the border into India with the digit. The challenge was to smuggle it back to London by plane without the authorities finding it and asking awkward questions.

Slick, as ever, had a solution. An old hunting buddy of his was in India and might be able to assist Byrne. The friend turned out to be none other than the movie star Jimmy Stewart.

Slick knew that Stewart was on holiday in Calcutta and thought he might be sufficiently intrigued by the Yeti legend to help out. So a meeting was arranged in the Grand Hotel in Calcutta with Byrne, Mr Stewart and his wife Gloria.

His instincts were right. The Stewarts were happy to go along with it. In order to dodge customs, Gloria hid the finger in her lingerie case and they flew out of India with no trouble.

Back in London, the finger was handed over to Professor Osman Hill for examination. Chillingly, his tests — which involved comparisons with human hands — concluded that it was not human.


The Stewarts were smugglers. LOL


34 posted on 12/28/2011 5:11:50 PM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: Daffynition; metmom; GodGunsGuts; tpanther
More "conclusive" evolutionary Snapple bottlecap-level "science" impacts the unforgiving brick wall of DNA evidence.

Mis-attribution, mis-classification, mis-taken identity, mis-appropiation, missing-links, and sure looks like they really missed-the-boat-again this time.

OK, so let's see...

Piltdown man ... Java man ... Cardiff giant ... Yeti.

At this rate "Lucy"'s probably next.

FReegards!


35 posted on 12/28/2011 9:21:00 PM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Rebelbase

This is all very explainable if you have seen the trailer for the new Rock of Ages movie and seen what Alec Baldwin looks like in it.

Some of the time he got off the set ‘in character’, and, well there you have it...


36 posted on 12/28/2011 9:32:26 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: Agamemnon
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh. The circle gets the square. :)


37 posted on 12/29/2011 4:26:32 AM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: Daffynition

“Who called this meeting?”


38 posted on 12/31/2011 5:27:03 AM PST by Makana
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To: reagan_fanatic

I’m curious. DOES anyone know what that is ?


39 posted on 12/31/2011 6:52:54 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Daffynition

Looks like meetings I have been to.


40 posted on 12/31/2011 6:55:17 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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