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Weekly Gardening Thread (Vacation) Vol. 5, February 03, 2012
Free Republic | 02-03-2012 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 02/03/2012 6:59:49 AM PST by Red_Devil 232

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Good morning gardeners! Red Devil here. JustaDumbBlonde and her husband are on their way up to Montana for a well deserved vacation. She should be able to post the thread from her remote Montana location next week.  I am sure she will continue with her plans for a soil structure thread next week. Her Thread subjects are so informative and interesting. Although I have not been real active on the thread, I read each and every post. Y'all have been doing a great job!

I should be able to get some sort of a  garden going this year, at our new location in the Marshall, Tx area. Crossed fingers on the garden! Peggy has done a super job of juggling her new job at a Shreveport Wal-Mart with all the running around to find a house, with a nice sized fenced in back yard, and getting the utilities turned on. It has been real hectic and energy draining for her. What a great Wife and partner! I am one lucky guy!

Lets get gardening!

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The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
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To: Silentgypsy

-——Where can we purchase?-——

it is very rare and not for sale........ biscuits and pancakes soak it all up


51 posted on 02/03/2012 2:18:35 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Red_Devil 232

The high temp today was 26F and there is currently about 3 ft of snow. It is supposed to continue through tonight.


52 posted on 02/03/2012 2:34:20 PM PST by MtnClimber (Tim Tebow will never be successful in the NFL - Leftist journalists who have sold their souls)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

ouch! Prayers up for you!

During the winter, my aunt keeps a large salt shaker of sand in her coat pocket. When she has to cross over an icy patch, she’ll shake sand in front of her to walk on... I have a shaker, just need the sand. Too old to fall down like that anymore.


53 posted on 02/03/2012 2:48:02 PM PST by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

LOL! With the mild-to-no winter we’ve had, I think any of us could have made that prediction!

C’mon, Spring!


54 posted on 02/03/2012 2:50:26 PM PST by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: bgill

Well, I bought two more Bonnie tomatoes, Goliath (bush with large fruit) since none of my heirloom dealers have anything in stock other than pansies and herbs. Both the Goliaths and the Tami G grape maters are flowering, and I’m hand-pollinating so I’m expecting March 1 fruit to pick.

Last year’s robust pepper plants never died and are sending large side-shoots, so I may have salsa by Easter!


55 posted on 02/03/2012 3:49:31 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: Ladysmith

I will second the C’mon Spring!


56 posted on 02/03/2012 4:02:15 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Ladysmith

That’s a good idea. I’ve lived here 27 years and have never fallen on the ice before. It didn’t even look icy, but that’s where it get’s you.


57 posted on 02/03/2012 4:08:56 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Arrowhead1952

I’d grow by seed but I’m just not as good as professional growers. Have a neighbor out here in Volente who grows strawberry, tomato and other plants for sale - good ones - she
sells at the Firehouse market day every quarter.


58 posted on 02/03/2012 4:28:00 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: txhurl
For some reason I have had very good luck growing Jalapeno peppers and basically any type of hot pepper but my bell peppers have been a disappointment. I did have good results with some Pimiento Peppers last year they were beautiful big red ones. Pick them green and they are the same as a green bell pepper.

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I roasted them in the oven and peeled the skins off and then caned them. I use them for color and slight flavor in stir fries and such.

Roasted and peeled.

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59 posted on 02/03/2012 4:30:57 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I feel for you! Best of luck.....If ligaments need repair prolotherapy might help. Lots on the internet about it


60 posted on 02/03/2012 4:32:24 PM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

What are them round little brown things?


61 posted on 02/03/2012 4:35:00 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Wait for the diagnosis.....


62 posted on 02/03/2012 4:37:46 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

The pimientos are the best for stuffing with cream cheese and crab or what have you, wrap in bacon and grill. Nice figs..... brown turkey? Mission? Wrap those babies in bacon and grill, too!

I’m going to get another pimiento plant this year, thanks for reminding me. They’re so full and pretty.


63 posted on 02/03/2012 4:48:19 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: Osage Orange

Those are few Figs from one of my Fig trees. I am going to take some cuttings and try to get them to root and bring the fig trees to Texas with me when I move.


64 posted on 02/03/2012 4:54:04 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Figs volunteer in TX, so you’ll have no problem there.


65 posted on 02/03/2012 4:59:59 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I had a "Tina Fig" tree when I lived in SoCal......

Miss it....Love figs!!

Did not recognize those...!! Ha!!

66 posted on 02/03/2012 5:07:27 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: txhurl

My neighbor just pulled up his last tomato plants from last year. He had a bumper crop in the fall. We got several bags of various ‘maters.

He had eight foot tall okra plants and we had fresh okra whenever we needed some. He has a strawberry patch that is about 3 X 30 and picks every day.

He has an “onion forest” of shallots that he started from a few plants I gave him years ago. Those have been on the farm for years.

I noticed you also posted a reply about figs. A couple down the street (we dog / cat sit for them when they are out of town) have a fig tree that is taller than their two story house. They let critters eat the fruit.


67 posted on 02/03/2012 5:10:22 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: txhurl
Yep! I was surprised at how thick and lush the flesh on the Pimientos were!

I do not know what type of figs they are. The plant I got was from FReeper gardengirl. She sent me a bare root tree a few years ago. It is from the East Coast of North Carolina, she did not know what type it was. It is now known as a gardengirl fig in this house hold. Tasty! It should produce really well this year - and here I am Moving! Drats! I am going to try and take a couple of cuttings with me to Texas.

68 posted on 02/03/2012 5:26:13 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: txhurl

I hope this fig does well in TX. I was so hoping to make a fig Mead/wine in the near future.


69 posted on 02/03/2012 5:34:43 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
That sounds delicious. I have a friend that makes honey mead. That's something else I don't have time for.. she's a paramedic and works 3 days on/4 off.

I saw this new for '12 Bonnie tomato today, didn't get it, looks like it's for commercial grower as everything ripens at once but it blooms and pollinates in the heat.

Phoenix Tomato

Fruit Size: 10 to 12 oz.
Matures: 60 to 70 days
Plant type: Determinate

Phoenix tomato really shines in climes where summer heat makes the thermometer hover in the 90-plus-degree range. Developed for South Texas growing conditions, Phoenix sets tasty fruit in summer’s most intense heat. You’ll see flowers and fruit on plants at the same time.

Plants ripen heavy loads of medium-sized red tomatoes that are ready for harvest over a short 7- to 10-day period. If the fruit-ripening window shifts to rainy weather, Phoenix tomatoes won’t crack. Phoenix performs well as a fall crop in warmer zones.

Plants are resistant to alternaria stem canker (Aal), gray leaf spot (Ss), and verticillium Race 1.

I may go back tomorrow and get one. It was 100+ here for 120 days last year, so none of my tomatoes set blooms from July thru September, when you need them to.

70 posted on 02/03/2012 5:54:14 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks for the ping Red!


71 posted on 02/03/2012 5:59:12 PM PST by fanfan (This is not my Father's Canada. http://www.ontariolandowners.ca/)
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To: txhurl

Whoa! That Phoenix mater sounds Good!


72 posted on 02/03/2012 6:03:17 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: txhurl
I am in the process of making a Honey Cranberry Mead right now! it needs a little more time in the secondary. It needs to stay in this secondary until the middle of May and then will be bottled. It will be ready for Thanksgiving - I hope. Five Gallon Carboy of Cranberry Mead.

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It is nice and clear right now. But needs the aging process to take effect.

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73 posted on 02/03/2012 6:15:26 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

That’s prettier than any Rose I’ve ever seen! What’s the alcohol content? Do you bottle it as gifts? wow

If not, you should!


74 posted on 02/03/2012 6:21:50 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: txhurl
By my figuring it is at 13%.

I do plan on sharing if it ages well and tastes good. Results will be posted here on the gardening thread :)

75 posted on 02/03/2012 6:47:04 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Posting a photo of ripe Figs is just down right mean...


76 posted on 02/03/2012 8:52:55 PM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: Redleg Duke

Love the Black Jersey Giants we got last year. And they ARE giant!

Our “spare” roosters (we got straight run) dressed out at 10 pounds, but were still tender & full flavored. So big that our friends that shared them for dinner with us now refer to them as “chirkeys”: “Taste like chicken; big as a turkey.”

They didn’t look that large, since their coop mates were White Cross-Rocks, which also dressed out to between 9+ & 11 pounds each, at 18-24 weeks old.

The two remaining roosters have mellow attitudes, and the girls are friendly, reliable layers. Hoping at least one of them is good & broody this Spring.


77 posted on 02/03/2012 9:00:50 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I tripped twice and stumbled once last month. Whacked my head on the sidewalk one time but had time to get my arms down to break the fall. My FRiend lost his cousin last month when he fell and hit his head on his patio.


78 posted on 02/03/2012 9:03:59 PM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: dennisw; Osage Orange

Doctor seems to think it is more of a sprain and the fact that I’ve been taking ibuprophen that is causing the fluid dretention. So, I’m to l=keep legs elevated and have been prescribed a water pill. Also, he doesn’t kknowhow many hours I’ve spent at the keyboard entering names into a data base so that (verifytheRecall.com) Another week of rest prescribed. I’ll take it. I’m getting new front windows next week, so I have to be home anyway.


79 posted on 02/03/2012 9:09:30 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Gabz
coolbreeze made a point of getting one that is user friendly for the manual transmission challenged woman of the house!

GREAT! It makes it so much easier to FReep while mowing, if you get to ride instead of push, AND don't have to shift gears.

Unless, of course, Distracted Mowing is a crime where you are. LOL

80 posted on 02/03/2012 9:10:51 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
For some reason I have had very good luck growing Jalapeno peppers and basically any type of hot pepper but my bell peppers have been a disappointment.

You're not alone. Southern California; Northern California; Oregon; and now, South Dakota,: the sweeter the pepper, the worse it does for me, even planted right next to the hotter ones.

I try every trick in the book, but always the same: the hotter they are, the bigger they get & the more of them there are.

81 posted on 02/03/2012 9:20:18 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; dennisw; Osage Orange

Well that came out garbled.

Try again:

Doctor seems to think it is more of a sprain and the fact that I’ve been taking ibuprophen that is causing the fluid retention. So, I’m to keep legs elevated and have been prescribed a water pill. Also, he doesn’t know how many hours I’ve spent at the keyboard entering names into a data base (VerifytheRecall.com) so that we can challenge those pesky recall petitions aimed to oust our wonderful Governor, Lt. Governor, and 4 more Republican Senators from office.

Another week of rest is prescribed. I’ll take it. I’m getting new front windows next week, so I have to be home anyway.


82 posted on 02/03/2012 9:20:44 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: tubebender
Let me share a secret with you, Mr. Bender. The object is to remain UPRIGHT. Falling is frowned upon and it makes you feel foolish when it happens. I was being careful when I fell too. You feel even more foolish when you can't use the excuse that you weren't paying attention.
83 posted on 02/03/2012 9:25:58 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ApplegateRanch

I had a hard time keeping up with my Giant Jalapenos last year! They just exploded with growth - I told my wife that I was tired of picking them. She told me to stop picking them! She does not like hot peppers - My most successful produce and she can’t stand them - heat wise! What to do?


84 posted on 02/03/2012 9:41:14 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Wish I could help, but I don’t really like them either; I just know how to grow them!

We pick them ripe, then let them sit until slightly wrinkled & fully red; then either sliver & dry, or dry & crush them for use in both gifts & in my Thai cooking.

One or two smallish ones sliced per pint of sweet dill pickles is good. I make (have to look it up on the Net; I don’t have it handy) “Lazy Woman’s Sweet Pickles”. I additionally lime the cukes first, then use that recipe, adding dill seed & weed, and the peppers. IIRC, I also toss in some parts of the Candy Dills recipe. A little Kentucky windage while the syrup is cooking always takes place, too.

By the time they are ready, they are mildly warm; the syrup is almost thick enough to cut, and the pickles are sweet like a gherkin, but dilled enough to give a good flavor.

Fortunately for me, Anaheims are far enough on the hot side to do well for me, and those are cool enough for my taste: they mainly go for rellenos of several persuasions; or into the wife’s stir frys.


85 posted on 02/03/2012 10:41:04 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Sprain is much mo better!


86 posted on 02/04/2012 12:02:02 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Perhaps your wife does not dislike the heat of hot peppers, but the taste of Jalapenos. That is the way I feel about them.

I like most hot peppers for their heat and taste, but not Jalapenos.


87 posted on 02/04/2012 12:21:33 AM PST by tdscpa
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To: afraidfortherepublic

A few years ago, I was following a friend out onto the lake to ice fish. Slipped forward and fell flat out. ugh! It’s like falling on steel. Absolutely no give whatsoever.

Sure hope you’re feeling better this morning.


88 posted on 02/04/2012 5:35:53 AM PST by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Red_Devil 232; All

Your homepage was fun to look at. :o)

Been thinking hard about what to do for a garden this year, if I want to attempt a raised bed or not. Last year, I tried various vegetables in pots on the deck. My biggest issue were the darn squirrels and chipmunks. They got all but one of my green peppers and took more than their share of cherry tomatoes. I can cage things up to keep squirrels out but not sure about chipmunks.

Any suggestions?


89 posted on 02/04/2012 5:57:47 AM PST by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Ladysmith

Not much


90 posted on 02/04/2012 6:02:03 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I doubt Waldo will be that enthused about the Brewers once he finds out what happened to Prince Fielder...


91 posted on 02/04/2012 6:04:27 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: texanyankee

Me too, we sure need more rain. Today looks cloudy.


92 posted on 02/04/2012 6:05:41 AM PST by tillacum
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To: 30Moves

I know I couldn’t. I’d probably name them all.


93 posted on 02/04/2012 6:13:28 AM PST by tillacum
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To: who knows what evil?

LOLOL! Waldo will have to go back to our regular lackluster seasons.


94 posted on 02/04/2012 6:20:15 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: heylady

I don’t know anyone who likes those critters. Once a year I use Over and Out. Sometimes I have to re-spread.


95 posted on 02/04/2012 6:21:17 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Racehorse

This year we’ve been invaded by wild verbina and they have long roots, beautiful flowers, but untrained. They even invaded one of my raised gardens, what a mess. It’s free now and waiting for plants.


96 posted on 02/04/2012 6:27:16 AM PST by tillacum
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Oh my, how awful. If the fluid needs removing, the nurse will give you and anelgesic to deaden the area. Prayers your knee will heal quickly.


97 posted on 02/04/2012 6:31:38 AM PST by tillacum
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To: nagdt

Dallas grass and the long grass sounds like Johnson grass. Johnson grass have roots, long, long and deep roots. I use Roundup and completely cover from tip to ground. I had one devil of a time in one of my raised gardens. Evidently I’d put it right over some Johnson grass, and it took over the okra the first year. We carefully pulled the okra, at the end of the season I then cut each grass down the doused each stub with Roundup. Now I’m fighting thistles..with Roundup.


98 posted on 02/04/2012 6:42:25 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Red_Devil 232

From what she’s written, I think she loves to hunt and I think you’re right.


99 posted on 02/04/2012 6:45:05 AM PST by tillacum
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Good news. YAAY


100 posted on 02/04/2012 6:48:00 AM PST by tillacum
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